Why can't we leave the clocks on summertime year round?

Slutmonkey57b

Why is anyone moaning about what time it'll get bright in the morning in winter, as though places on the same latitude on the continent don't have exactly the same "issue" but get on perfectly well?

Corca Baiscinn

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Why is anyone moaning about what time it'll get bright in the morning in winter, as though places on the same latitude on the continent don't have exactly the same "issue" but get on perfectly well?

Because its not latitude but longitude that dictates time of sunrise and most places on the continent are at a different longitude to us

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Why is anyone moaning about what time it'll get bright in the morning in winter, as though places on the same latitude on the continent don't have exactly the same "issue" but get on perfectly well?

Maybe some people in those countries would change things if they could? Obviously you can’t make the days longer but maybe a portion of the population in other countries would like to shift the daytime hours to earlier in the morning if they could? If some people here hate the thought of a post-9am sunrise, I’m sure we’re not alone in that.

And why are people who want brighter mornings “moaners” any more than people who want brighter evenings?

Slutmonkey57b

Because it's being presented as some sort of desperate, insurmountable obstacle that would threaten the very fabric of society?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Because it's being presented as some sort of desperate, insurmountable obstacle that would threaten the very fabric of society?

Aaah, to be honest, there are as many strident people in the ‘year-round sunmertime’ side of the debate on this thread.

I’d hate post-9am sunrises but if that’s what is voted for (and it looks likely that year-round summertime will win out in a vote), I’ll accept it and adapt. I doubt many people would consider it in the exaggerated terms you’ve outlined above. People just have preferences. People who would prefer year-round GMT are no more moaners than those who want summertime. You’re just being biased.

Slutmonkey57b

"what time does it get bright" covers both options, you know.

Neither of which have any meaningful consequences for anyone. The time of day is determined by the alarm, not sunrise or sunset, and has been like that since the invention of the ringing clock.

ozmo

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

Neither of which have any meaningful consequences for anyone.

Farmers maybe - cows don't understand clocks changing and farmers need to go by the animals internal clocks...milking times etc.

Also Airports internally operate in Zulu Time - which is basically GMT with no clock changing so there is no confusion with international time schedules - so sometimes their office operates 1 hour out from outside the office door.

I'm sure there are others... like programmers and server admins, database administrators whose life would be made easier if there was no summertime adjustment.

Water John

Running our lives by a clock rather than daylight is quite a recent invention, mainly brought about by the railways.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

Running our lives by a clock rather than daylight is quite a recent invention, mainly brought about by the railways.

and industrialisation in general.

Water John

Maybe in the UK but here, it really is late 19C early 20C.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

Maybe in the UK but here, it really is late 19C early 20C.

Shops and offices have had set opening times for centuries, so the point still stands.
Industrialisation is more than just heavy manufacturing plants, it includes small engineering etc, which Ireland had plenty.

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