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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    I'll see it on the tracker when I put her race number in :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

    You stick to running and leave the supporting to the professionals :pac:

    Jaysus - how'd you know her race number - we have a tracker?? Are they my feet....... :confused::confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    I'll see it on the tracker when I put her race number in :rolleyes::rolleyes::D

    You stick to running and leave the supporting to the professionals :pac:

    Ouch!
    See above post re professional supporting :D:D it wasn't me that shouted Wubble Wubble, it was fletch!!!!

    Yes indeed, it was fletch. In Dunboyne.

    However, I don't recall him supporting in Raheny, and if he was, aquinn wasn't beside him :D sure you got a laugh out of me anyway :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    AM knows her stuff............... and how do you know her name - I don't even know her name.............

    How do you know she's talkative if you don't know her name? :confused:

    Ariana, I agree with AMK and AGYR on the target time.... only caveat is be prepared to change plan on the day... for example, if it's hot and humid like today.

    And no matter what anybody says, highly unlikely that you will do a negative split, so don't worry about that. I would recommend considering a joining a pacing group if you can... takes a lot of pressure off the pacing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    annapr wrote: »
    How do you know she's talkative if you don't know her name? :confused:

    AM being AGYG.
    Don't now Ariana - don't have her on Strava as I cant locate her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    Hi Ariana, great advice from all above. I'm pacing 4.40 and all i can say is it will be very busy but if you run with a pace group(or close by) you will be able to run without worrying about pace and constantly checking the watch.

    However I suggest going with the 4.30 pace group but starting back from the actual group where there will be more room but keeping them in your sight. You will need to be disciplined and not reel them in in the first 6 m but start doing it gradually after the Phoenix park. After you catch up to them, stay with them for a good few miles and then at about 18 - 20m start moving ahead of them and take it home. You will have a much more comfortably and enjoyable run and you'll get very close to your 4.25. This is the tactic i used to get my first sub 4 and i didn't pass pacers until the RDS and came home with nearly 3 mins to spare and really enjoyed the run.

    Don't worry you will be chasing times for a few years to come and you will go from strength to strength and you already have learned so much from this round of training. Try enjoy the run up to the marathon, the training is done and just concentrate on the injury and getting to the start line in one piece.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    4.30 Comfortably.
    You will surprise yourself,
    the taper will recover your muscles,
    crowds will lift you,
    adrenaline will push you,
    Stubbornness will help you,
    the training will win it for you.

    Go for it.

    1st half: 2:22
    2nd half: 2:18

    I still think you will do it better.
    The only risk is you meet someone at 5m who is as talkative as you and you stay jabbering away for the next 21 miles :)

    I'll have you know I'm actually very quiet :P

    Thanks everyone who's taken the time to reply, some great advice there but nothing too far from what i was thinking myself either so that's good too :) No doubt i'll spend the next 13 days :eek: deciding on a strategy and then changing my mind 5 minutes later :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Monday, Oct 9th
    Total: Glute activation exercises & gentle foam rolling

    Tuesday, Oct 10th
    Total: Glute activation exercises & gentle foam rolling

    Wednesday, Oct 11th
    Total: Glute activation exercises, foam rolling & 52 mins turbo training (16km)

    Thursday, Oct. 12th
    Total: Glute activation exercises & foam rolling

    Friday, October 13th
    Total: 5.1km (34:44)
    Avg Pace: 6:48 min/km
    Splits: 6:52, 6:41, 6:47, 6:46, 6:53
    Avg HR: 134 bpm
    Comments: Didn't enjoy this at all, very nervous of the knee and the pace felt much harder than it should have. Major panic about my marathon chances. First night running in the dark since March, time to dust off the head torch. Followed up with Glute activation and foam rolling.

    Saturday, Oct 14th
    Total: Glute activation exercises & foam rolling

    Sunday, Oct 15th
    Total: 8.1km (52:22)
    Avg Pace: 6:28 min/km
    Splits: 6:26, 6:30, 6:23, 6:25, 6:23, 6:22, 6:50, 6:22, 6:51 (.1)
    Avg HR: 145 bpm
    Comments: Dark and damp night but i enjoyed this so much more than Friday night’s run. Pace was lovely and comfortable. Followed up with glute work and foam rolling.

    Comments: 13km/8m total. Still in a good bit of pain in the knee at the start of the week, still limping. Physio on Wed did a good bit of deep tissue work along the ITB & down along the peroneals. He also did some dry needling in the same areas. The leg felt fairly dead after it. But Thursday I was definitely moving better. Back to Physio on Friday, not quite as torturous as Wednesday and i got the go-ahead to try 3m easy on Friday evening or Saturday. Week finished a lot better than it started, feeling cautiously optimistic about toeing the line on the 29th :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Monday, Oct 16th
    Total: Glute activation exercises & gentle foam rolling

    Tuesday, Oct 17th
    Total: 7.5km (47:26)
    Avg Pace: 6:19 min/km
    Splits: 6:27, 6:14, 6:24, 6:13, 6:18, 6:12, 6:23, 6:27 (.5)
    Avg HR: 142 bpm
    Comments: No issues on this run, running with friends for the 1st time in around 2 months, it was a battle to keep the pace down with them but it felt easy all the time, chatting pace :)
    Followed up with glute activation, stretching and foam rolling.

    Wednesday, Oct 18th
    Total: 13.46 km (1:31:26)
    Avg Pace: 6:47 min/km
    Splits: 6:48, 6:30, 6:35, 6:40, 6:37, 6:37, 6:47, 7:06, 7:03, 7:13, 7:16, 6:48, 6:28, 6:23 (457m)
    Avg HR: 141 bpm
    Comments: Aim here was 10 miles very easy emphasis being on time on my feet, unfortunately i got into trouble from about 4.5m, my knee started to get tight and then the pain set in. Slowed down a lot but and was able to keep going til i got back to my car which was just over 8m. Rather p*ssed off after this run, hard to see myself running another 18 miles in 10 days time :(

    Followed up with glute activation, stretching & lots of RICE.

    Thursday, Oct. 19th
    Total: Glute activation & gentle foam rolling.

    Friday, October 20th
    Total: Physio & RICE
    Comments: Physio worked quite hard on the hamstrings and ITB again. Tough session. Taped up the knee & hamstring. Suggested 5m on Sunday and 5/6m next Tuesday/Wednesday, both to pain free or else definitely no marathon attempt. It’s 50/50 now :(

    Saturday, Oct 21st
    Total: Glute activation exercises, stretching & foam rolling - all done twice AM & PM

    Sunday, Oct 22nd
    Total: 8.15km (53:59)
    Avg. Pace: 6:37 min/km
    Splits: 6:44, 6:34, 6:30, 6:34, 6:42, 6:36, 6:34, 6:50, 6:15 (.15)
    Avg. HR: 155 bpm
    Comments: Nervous heading out for this but it was a lovely day for it and i felt pretty good from the start, legs felt loose & free. And ultimately was a pain free run unless you count the million and one niggles i am now feeling in every part of my body :eek: HR on the high side, head cold to blame for that (to add to my woes :rolleyes:). Drinking lots of fresh ginger & lemon tea but maybe i need something stronger.

    Followed this run up with a cryotherapy bath again.

    Glute activation, stretching, foam rolling etc in the AM & PM again :)

    Comments: 29km/18m. What can i say, it was a roller-coaster of a week and i still don’t know if i’ll be lining up next Sunday or not, watch this space i guess :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    You're doing everything you can to get yourself there so fair play. Fingers crossed for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    I can only imagine the rollercoaster of emotions! I know it's still a bit of a wait-and-see but it's great to hear that the run yesterday went well, and hopefully that means good things for Sunday! God knows you've earned the chance to line up and give it your best go, really hope it works out that way for you :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭gypsylee


    Ariana I hope you make the starting line on Sunday. I have been following your training and can read how much it means to you to do DCM. Great to read that yesterday's run went well for you. I have my fingers crossed for you for Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,441 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    Hope you have a good week this week and fingers crossed that you'll be good to go on Sunday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Catching up on your knee troubles here, Ariana... really hoping you make it... how's it looking now??


  • Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭Rururun


    Have everything crossed for you - your log is a great read and I’d love to make such amazing progress over a year! Hope the knee behaves!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    You're doing everything you can to get yourself there so fair play. Fingers crossed for you.
    eyrie wrote: »
    I can only imagine the rollercoaster of emotions! I know it's still a bit of a wait-and-see but it's great to hear that the run yesterday went well, and hopefully that means good things for Sunday! God knows you've earned the chance to line up and give it your best go, really hope it works out that way for you :)
    gypsylee wrote: »
    Ariana I hope you make the starting line on Sunday. I have been following your training and can read how much it means to you to do DCM. Great to read that yesterday's run went well for you. I have my fingers crossed for you for Sunday.
    Sunny Dayz wrote: »
    Hope you have a good week this week and fingers crossed that you'll be good to go on Sunday.

    Thank you, thank you, thank you :)
    annapr wrote: »
    Catching up on your knee troubles here, Ariana... really hoping you make it... how's it looking now??

    Physio again today but i doubt he will do very much except tape it up again. I'll admit I'm nervous, very very nervous. It's a mechanical issue caused by weak muscles (glutes/core) and impact so it could potentially seize up again, Physio can't give any guarantees but he's given me good advice for trying to get moving again if it happens and the key is to control my pace to lessen the impact :cool:
    Rururun wrote: »
    Have everything crossed for you - your log is a great read and I’d love to make such amazing progress over a year! Hope the knee behaves!

    Thank you so much and welcome back to the logs, i look forward to following your progress too ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    wishing you all the best for Sunday, keep the pace slow and you will get to the finish line but enjoy it and don't worry about the time...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Good luck Ariana, hope that knee is going to behave itself. Enjoy the day - and McGrattans afterwards!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Younganne wrote: »
    wishing you all the best for Sunday, keep the pace slow and you will get to the finish line but enjoy it and don't worry about the time...
    Thank you :) And best of luck to you with the pacing gig also. We may meet yet :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Best of luck on Sunday Ariana! Hope the knee behaves itself and you get to really enjoy the day after the months of hard work! Whatever happens you deserve to feel very proud but I hope the occasion lives up to it! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭gypsylee


    Looking forward to reading your race report.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Best of Luck on Sunday Ariana, you have a great attitude , I hope the body holds up for you, Looking forward to the race report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭chickey2


    Best of luck! Enjoy it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    The Muppet wrote: »
    Best of Luck on Sunday Ariana, you have a great attitude , I hope the body holds up for you, Looking forward to the race report.

    Plus one to this! The very best of luck on Sunday. I'll be out, cheering you on. Enjoy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Take it easy Ariana and hopefully it will work out on the day. Wishing you the very best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    Best wishes for Sunday - hope it all goes to plan!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    All the best Ariana, hope you have a good one, enjoy!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    Best of luck tomorrow, have a great day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    You've well and truly earned your place. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,799 ✭✭✭Huzzah!


    Holy heck, Ariana'! You did it! You're a marathon runner! Huge congratulations :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Wubble Wubble


    Congrats Ariana! Sorry I missed you afterwards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭Annie get your Run


    Massive congrats to you Ariana!!!! Delighted to see your result :) well done marathon runner!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    Delighted for you.....so....What's next?!?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Hey Ariana, been following your story. Delighted it worked out for you. Congratulations on everything you've put into today and the rewards you reaped from it. Rest well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,003 ✭✭✭✭The Muppet


    Hey Ariana. Really happy for you , had you on my tracker and was delighted to see you made it. How did the injury hold up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭hillsiderunner


    Brilliant to see the good news on Novices! Well done and hope the knee is feeling ok.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 746 ✭✭✭gypsylee


    A big congratulations Ariana. Well done, you must be absolutely thrilled.

    Hope your recovery is going well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭eyrie


    Good woman yourself!! Delighted the saga had a good ending :) Although I shouldn't say ending, should I? Congrats on a smashing "first" marathon ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Huzzah! wrote: »
    Holy heck, Ariana'! You did it! You're a marathon runner! Huge congratulations :)
    Congrats Ariana! Sorry I missed you afterwards.

    I was very sorry to miss and also sorry to hear that your own day didn't go as you had hoped. I feel i stole some other runners' share of the luck out there as i definitely got more than my share :o
    Massive congrats to you Ariana!!!! Delighted to see your result :) well done marathon runner!!!
    Delighted for you.....so....What's next?!?

    Definitely lots of s&c anyhow! I don't ever want to be in sick-bay 3 weeks before a marathon again :rolleyes:
    Hey Ariana, been following your story. Delighted it worked out for you. Congratulations on everything you've put into today and the rewards you reaped from it. Rest well.
    The Muppet wrote: »
    Hey Ariana. Really happy for you , had you on my tracker and was delighted to see you made it. How did the injury hold up?

    I took 2 nurofen somewhere around 13km i think and when i finished i was limping but i hadn't noticed it much while running thank god :)
    Brilliant to see the good news on Novices! Well done and hope the knee is feeling ok.
    gypsylee wrote: »
    A big congratulations Ariana. Well done, you must be absolutely thrilled.

    Hope your recovery is going well.
    eyrie wrote: »
    Good woman yourself!! Delighted the saga had a good ending :) Although I shouldn't say ending, should I? Congrats on a smashing "first" marathon ;)

    Wow lads/ladies thank you all so very very much from the bottom of my heart. I'm chuffed to bits with all the well wishes i've gotten from my fellow boardsies over the past number of weeks, it means the world :) I'm sorry it's taken me a few days to acknowledge it :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Monday, Oct 23rd
    Total: Glute activation exercises, stretching & foam rolling

    Tuesday, Oct 24th
    Total: Physio and glute activation exercises, stretching & foam rolling
    Comments: Well it’s still 50/50, 6-7 mile run tomorrow will be the decider. Worked on hams & ITB mostly, didn’t feel as painful as last week which is a positive i presume. Weak muscles causing poor mechanics. The big lesson in all of this is that i definitely have to commit to S&C going forward. Glute work is already paying off, i’ve gone from doing 2 sets of 8 clams on each side to doing 3 sets of 15 on each side to feel the same burn. Need to add more core work to the routine which currently consists of bridges, clams, donkey kicks and crab walk with resistance band.

    Wednesday, Oct 25th
    Total: 11.02km (1:15:31)
    Avg Pace: 6:51 min/km
    Splits: 6:25, 6:34, 6:43, 6:28, 6:47, 6:57, 7:04, 7:00, 7:01, 7:09, 7:09,
    Avg HR: 166 bpm (worryingly high!)
    Comments: Knee was ok. ITB on the good side flared up a bit :eek:.High HR too whatever that is about as i was chatting away to a friend for 5km running at paces I've never run at before >7min/km :confused: Feeling very blah after this run :rolleyes:

    Glute activation & stretching in the morning and again in the evening after the run with foam rolling in the evening.

    Thursday, Oct. 26th
    Total: Glute activation & gentle foam rolling.

    Friday, October 27th
    Total: Physio
    Comments: Peroneals - all good. ITB right - bit tender but ok. ITB left - quite tight. Taped up the right knee, right hamstring and left ITB and gave me the the nod to give it a lash with a conservative approach to pacing. 50/50 odds of finishing, it’ll have to do, it's better than not starting. Starting to feel the first glimmer of excitement :)

    Saturday, Oct 28th
    Total: Nothing

    Sunday, Oct 29th
    Dublin Marathon 42.46km (Watch: 4:36:58, Chip 4:37:06)
    Avg. Pace: 6:31 min/km (watch), 10:35 min/mile (official)
    Splits:
    10km: 1:08:10 (10:59 min/mile)
    Half: 2:21:56 (10:42 min/mile)
    30 km: 3:19:10 (10:21 min/mile)
    Finish: 4:37:06 (10:18 min/mile)
    2:21:56/2:15:10 (-6:46 negative split!)
    Avg. HR: 169 bpm
    Comments: Race report in a separate post.

    Comments: 53.5km/33 miles. I ran a marathon :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭Baby75


    Still delighted for you Ariana such a great feeling still I hope the knee gets better quickly :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭El Caballo


    Great stuff Ariana, delighted you got to start line and experience it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,236 ✭✭✭AuldManKing


    I'm so delighted for you - I was really hoping that you'd nail it and you did.
    Blowing past the pacers and then recording your fastest 2 k as your last 2k is amazing.

    Keep a record of your race report in this log (your own log), so you can look back on it fondly - even print it out and keep it.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105130499&postcount=5587


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Murph_D


    Great report and a great debut, ariana’. You certainly nailed it, and possibly sold yourself a little short with the target, as your big negative split suggests. Must have felt great to finish like that, bottle that feeling for the next one. Very well done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,883 ✭✭✭Younganne


    What a great report and I'm so delighted you had a great experience for your first marathon.
    I was thinking about you and was hoping it went well for you, little did i know how close you were before you turned into Sonia(such a great feeling to be able to do that) ... .(our deep conversation was us trying to work out our pace and what we had left to do, as lots of the mile markers were off and we had to come in 30 sec under 4.40!!)
    Congratulation marathon runner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,415 ✭✭✭Singer


    Lovely report and delighted for you that it went so well on the day. Counting your fellow runners who you went past as your "Body Count" seems a little cruel but probably quite enjoyable :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭hot buttered scones


    I really enjoyed your report. What a great way to finish any marathon, never mind your first! A big congratulations on your achievement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    Singer wrote: »
    Lovely report and delighted for you that it went so well on the day. Counting your fellow runners who you went past as your "Body Count" seems a little cruel but probably quite enjoyable :)
    Aw I genuinely didn't mean it as it sounded. I've been humbled by this whole experience and feel very blessed to have had a good day out on my 1st outting. I do realise that that isn't always the case and never more so than this yr when so many very experienced, more accomplished, and better trained runners on these very boards weren't blessed by the same gods as I was last Sunday. Next time that could be me (did i just say next time :eek:).

    Oh and I didn't actually physically count them that was taken from the results. I would have felt mean counting people like that, if anything I'd try to encourage anyone who was struggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Delighted for you Ariana, after your difficult build up... hope you are recovering well. Loved your exuberance and happiness in the race report :D

    ...and I have no doubt there will be a next time for you!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,582 ✭✭✭Swashbuckler


    ariana` wrote:
    Definitely lots of s&c anyhow! I don't ever want to be in sick-bay 3 weeks before a marathon again

    Sounds like you're possibly moving towards the shorter speed stuff for now too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭ariana`


    I really enjoyed your report. What a great way to finish any marathon, never mind your first! A big congratulations on your achievement.

    :)
    annapr wrote: »
    Delighted for you Ariana, after your difficult build up... hope you are recovering well. Loved your exuberance and happiness in the race report :D

    ...and I have no doubt there will be a next time for you!!

    A part of me thinks that it went so well that while i may beat the time, i'll never beat the experience of it which to me was the most important part. So maybe i should quit while i'm ahead.... but i don't think i will :pac:
    I'm so delighted for you - I was really hoping that you'd nail it and you did.
    Blowing past the pacers and then recording your fastest 2 k as your last 2k is amazing.

    Keep a record of your race report in this log (your own log), so you can look back on it fondly - even print it out and keep it.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=105130499&postcount=5587

    I will do thanks AMK. And for all the advice and encouragement along the way, you and a few others were what made it happen for so many of us this year. I'm just very sorry that somehow along the way we seem to have cursed quite a few of our mentors/advisors :o
    Murph_D wrote: »
    Great report and a great debut, ariana’. You certainly nailed it, and possibly sold yourself a little short with the target, as your big negative split suggests. Must have felt great to finish like that, bottle that feeling for the next one. Very well done.

    The Physio advised adding 10-15 mins to my target to get me around, i had been thinking 4:20 or 4:25 so yes, i do think the target was soft, but i also wonder if things may have been different different if i hadn't had the knee issue and had of gone for 4:20. I'm not convinced i could have done it on the day, it may have ended up in me blowing up. In hindsight i think maybe 4:30.... but i'm still pleased with my time, it's a pb :)
    Younganne wrote: »
    What a great report and I'm so delighted you had a great experience for your first marathon.
    I was thinking about you and was hoping it went well for you, little did i know how close you were before you turned into Sonia(such a great feeling to be able to do that) ... .(our deep conversation was us trying to work out our pace and what we had left to do, as lots of the mile markers were off and we had to come in 30 sec under 4.40!!)
    Congratulation marathon runner.

    :)
    Sounds like you're possibly moving towards the shorter speed stuff for now too?
    I'm very undecided. I'd like to keep the mileage up whatever distance i target, i have the Pfizinger Faster Road Racing book with plans in it so i started reading bits of that at the weekend.


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