The Samsung wot catches fire...

...it's been carried on a few news reports today.

Is it just about the least interesting news ever? Gee whizz, one of the many models of smart phones on the market isn't great. What will we do to get over this? Maybe buy one of the other ones?

What next, the clutch on the Audi isn't great? Hold the front page.

Vic_08

The stupid balance board things that caught fire last year were widely reported and I'm guessing a hell of a lot of less people had these than the phone in question.

A consumer device that could potentially burn a house down is newsworthy to me.

It seems like the epitome of a First World Problem to me, some must really want this and want this now.

Barry Badrinath

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It seems like the epitome of a First World Problem to me, some must really want this and want this now.

A phone model that spontaneously combusts and is a threat to owners Worldwide is a first World problem and you have a problem with it being in the news?

Huh.

Hammer89

It's newsworthy even if it's a brand of Dealz phones which blow up for no reason, but this is Samsung. They're a big deal.

Clandestine

Apparently this is going to cost the company 17 billion dollars:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-smartphones-costs-idUSKCN12B0FX

Can't even imagine that kind of money, I'm happy out with 50 quid a week not including the rent.

mad muffin

Lucky number slevin

Senor Fancy Pants

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

A phone model that spontaneously combusts and is a threat to owners Worldwide is a first World problem and you have a problem with it being in the news?

Huh.

I suspect more fires are caused by electrical faults, people falling asleep with the oven on or smoking fags, people covering laptops etc. Let's not pretend the real news is the fire crisis. It's a gadget gone wrong and the stock exchange reaction.

Capt'n Midnight

Samsung is worth $18 Billion less because the batteries weren't removable.

That's the only reason.

And there are only two reasons to prevent the user removing the battery
- making the phone a fraction of a mm thinner and slightly lighter
- planned obsolescence




Otherwise they could have sorted out this by posting out new batteries. Even if there was a problem with the charging circuit then a small circuit in the new battery could control the charging.

kneemos

The two Samsungs I've had you couldn't kill with a stick to be fair to them.

Harry Palmr

Deleted User wrote: »

I suspect more fires are caused by electrical faults, people falling asleep with the oven on or smoking fags, people covering laptops etc. Let's not pretend the real news is the fire crisis. It's a gadget gone wrong and the stock exchange reaction.

Given the number of people who sleep with their phones beside the pillow I'd say it was quite an important fire risk. That and the fact something millions of people would have bought in the coming months catching fire somewhat randomly is newsworthy.

Barry Badrinath

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I suspect more fires are caused by electrical faults, people falling asleep with the oven on or smoking fags, people covering laptops etc. Let's not pretend the real news is the fire crisis. It's a gadget gone wrong and the stock exchange reaction.

Ah this usual comparison bollox argument. Im not pretending anything.

It is what it is and its newsworthy.

Get over it.

ChikiChiki

Your house could burn down while your sleeping if one of these things goes up. It's a problem and obviously a very serious one.

kneemos

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Your house could burn down while your sleeping if one of these things goes up. It's a problem and obviously a very serious one.

Can't even call the Fire Brigade.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Samsung knew about their dodgy batterys as far back as the galaxy s4, i had a battery explode in a fireball in my one, lucky I was in the house at the time. Had an awful time from Samsung even getting a replacement phone let alone the damage to my floor repaired. Took a lot of phone calls and being transferred from Dublin to England to Korea and an angry name and shame facebook post before they eventually sorted it. I wouldn't buy another Samsung product EVER.

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

...it's been carried on a few news reports today.

Is it just about the least interesting news ever? Gee whizz, one of the many models of smart phones on the market isn't great. What will we do to get over this? Maybe buy one of the other ones?

What next, the clutch on the Audi isn't great? Hold the front page.

A do think one of the major phone manufacturers doing a stop in production of the phones is somewhat big news

First I can recall.....AFAIK some of the replacements to recalled after exploding aswell


This has been going on since at least August iirc

PARlance

Easy for you to say but I'm left here with a phone that could

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Deleted User wrote: »

It seems like the epitome of a First World Problem to me, some must really want this and want this now.

Take a case of some aul one falling off a high stool after 14 pints and a ball of yokes. Sue the pub for half a million. Win.

Give us a real good newspaper headline. Come on Conor. Change starts within yourself.

bazz26

Nothing to see here.

xabi

Apple likes this

The_Valeyard

It is news worthy, you spend 700 Euro on a device, you kinda expect it not to blow up in your face when you use it.

Vic_08

OP is just an argue bot.

If some halfwit circuit court judge awarded €500k to someone who lost their facebook posts due to the phone self-immolating he'd defend it to the death.

mansize

Samsung have pulled the plug on the Note 7

Vic_08

Vic_08 wrote: »

OP is just an argue bot.

If some halfwit circuit court judge awarded €500k to someone who lost their facebook posts due to the phone self-immolating he'd defend it to the death.

Responding poster is just an argue bot.

If someone were to suggest a story about a gadget isn't really that big a deal, he'd come up with some ravings about the Courts and Facebook messages to make some point about something.

The fact is, a mobile phone sometimes doesn't work, let's not pretend it's a more serious fire hazard than those that don't make the news. If we want to persist with this ridiculous strand, can anyone give the stats of deaths caused by Samsungs v deaths caused by other means in recent weeks? The issue here is hysterical reaction to a gadget that doesn't work.

GLaDOS

Its a phone that bursts into flames.

Of course it's news.

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Responding poster is just an argue bot.

If someone were to suggest a story about a gadget isn't really that big a deal, he'd come up with some ravings about the Courts and Facebook messages to make some point about something.

The fact is, a mobile phone sometimes doesn't work, let's not pretend it's a more serious fire hazard than those that don't make the news. If we want to persist with this ridiculous strand, can anyone give the stats of deaths caused by Samsungs v deaths caused by other means in recent weeks? The issue here is hysterical reaction to a gadget that doesn't work.

Samsung stopping production of a line of phones is possibly the biggest mobile phone news in years that wasn't a launch


A simple Google image search will show up that it's not merely a phone not working


Perhaps you don't deem it worthy of news (but it is of a tread :rolleyes:)
But practically noone ever reads the court reports in the local papers either

Simply put differwnt people view different things as newsworthy....much different people like different things

tomwaterford

GLaDOS wrote: »

Its a phone that bursts into flames.

Of course it's news.

Like the hovercrafts


Man was I pissed when they stopped selling them

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

tomwaterford wrote: »

Perhaps you don't deem it worthy of news (but it is of a tread :rolleyes:)
But practically noone ever reads the court reports in the local papers either

Tom you're mad! They're the best pages. Read them on a Wednesday. Go out the Saturday night and play court bingo. It used to be better before they closed a certain pub in our town. You'd probably have a full house by your 3rd drink

tomwaterford

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Tom you're mad! They're the best pages. Read them on a Wednesday. Go out the Saturday night and play court bingo. It used to be better before they closed a certain pub in our town. You'd probably have a full house by your 3rd drink

In fairness....I'm not going shifting the toothless prostitutes that appear in the journal on a night out


(Well at least not before a 3rd drink) :P

refusetolose

xabi wrote: »

Apple likes this

Sony likes it more...

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

tomwaterford wrote: »

In fairness....I'm not going shifting the toothless prostitutes that appear in the journal on a night out


(Well at least not before a 3rd drink) :P

No shifting, just a game of spot the scumbag.

RobertKK

It was a very serious issue, still is if you still have the phone.

On airplanes, they asked people with Samsung 7 notes to not to put the phone in their bag for the hold in the plane, and to bring them onto the airplane to keep the phone switched off for the duration of the flight, but on their body.
There was real worry the phone could bring down a plane.

Academic

Yes. I've been on four flights since this started, and on each the pilot got on the intercom before takeoff to warn passengers, and in the case of the two most recent flights there were also frequent announcements over the terminal public address systems warning about the phones.

A fire is certainly capable of bringing down a plane, and these produce an intensely hot fire which can't be easily put out and which releases toxic fumes.

It's not a trivial issue.

PARlance

Academic wrote: »

Yes. I've been on four flights since this started, and on each the pilot got on the intercom before takeoff to warn passengers, and in the case of the two most recent flights there were also frequent announcements over the terminal public address systems warning about the phones.

A fire is certainly capable of bringing down a plane, and these produce an intensely hot fire which can't be easily put out and which releases toxic fumes.

It's not a trivial issue.

Out of interest, do you know what causes the intensely hot fire?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

PARlance wrote: »

Out of interest, do you know what causes the intensely hot fire?

The battery..

Pac1Man

I don't understand how an everyday product that someone could have in there pocket or in front of their face which could spontaneously combust is not a serious issue!?

You may call it a first world problem but we live in the first world so therefore it is a problem.

Felix Jones is God

bazz26 wrote: »

Nothing to see here.

Since that's not an executable gif on mobile, you're damn right there's nothing to see!

Ah lads, talking about planes dropping from the sky in flames only increases the hyperbole that I'm referring to. It hasn't happened yet and while it could, one presumes that could happen to a laptop and other equipment.

Felix Jones is God

tomwaterford wrote: »

In fairness....I'm not going shifting the toothless prostitutes that appear in the journal on a night out


(Well at least not before a 3rd drink) :P

Ah the male ones aren't that bad Tom!

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

one presumes that could happen to a laptop and other equipment.

But it deosnt??
Its a fault in Samsung batteries to such an extent they've stopped production to sort it


Seemingly it'd the batteries/phone been made too thin causing short circuit....hardly likely on much more than a mobile tbf

Walter2016

Clandestine wrote: »

Apparently this is going to cost the company 17 billion dollars:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-samsung-elec-smartphones-costs-idUSKCN12B0FX

Can't even imagine that kind of money, I'm happy out with 50 quid a week not including the rent.

Always beware of sensationalist media - the real figures are always substantially less

If you belived the media 5bn could be watching the olympic opening cermony and over 350 million could watch the Eurovision. Great headlines, but misleading. 4bn had acces to watch olympics if they wished - most couldn;t be bothered, same with eurovision.

Reuters base their figures on top end estimates of sales and multiply it by the retail price.

I'd deduct about 70% from that figure. many will take the standard S7, others will wait for a new model.

Yes, its bad, but not catastrophic.

pickarooney

The Honey Monster wrote: »

The battery..

Can it melt steel beams?

Utdfan20titles

Panic over. Turns out people were just dialling the Samsung hotline haha

fryup

what if it goes off in your in front pocket and damages your meat & 2 veg...could you sue sam for ruining your sex life??

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah lads, talking about planes dropping from the sky in flames only increases the hyperbole that I'm referring to. It hasn't happened yet and while it could, one presumes that could happen to a laptop and other equipment.

One presumes incorrectly. there is a specific fault in the battery of the Note 7 that can cause it to catch fire and/or explode.

bnt

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah lads, talking about planes dropping from the sky in flames only increases the hyperbole that I'm referring to. It hasn't happened yet and while it could, one presumes that could happen to a laptop and other equipment.

It has happened to laptops in the past. More worryingly, it has happened to batteries installed in the plane itself. It's the same Lithium Ion battery technology that grounded the Boeing 787 Dreamliner a couple of years ago for safety checks, after several caught fire. So, no it's not hyperbole. They might not get hot enough to melt steel, but planes aren't made of steel: they're made of aluminium alloys or composites that have lower melting points.

Capt'n Midnight

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Samsung is worth $18 Billion less because the batteries weren't removable.

That's the only reason.

And there are only two reasons to prevent the user removing the battery
- making the phone a fraction of a mm thinner and slightly lighter
- planned obsolescence




Otherwise they could have sorted out this by posting out new batteries. Even if there was a problem with the charging circuit then a small circuit in the new battery could control the charging.

Had to be a sealed unit to be waterproof also which is a fairly sought after feature on new phones these days.

bnt

bnt wrote: »

It has happened to laptops in the past. More worryingly, it has happened to batteries installed in the plane itself. It's the same Lithium Ion battery technology that grounded the Boeing 787 Dreamliner a couple of years ago for safety checks, after several caught fire. So, no it's not hyperbole.

That's my point.

Items can catch fire, yet there is no ban on laptops etc. on planes. Again, I'm simply saying let's not pretend that the prospect of planes dropping out of the sky is the reason for it being so newsworthy.

Boom_Bap

The whole fire thing is not a design flaw. It's a misunderstood feature.

murpho999

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The whole fire thing is not a design flaw. It's a misunderstood feature.

New Kettle App is what I heard. The phone could make tea/coffee.

Boom_Bap

I heard it was to help boy scouts light camp fires.