RAW Superthread

WinnyThePoo

Such a talent. Can't seem him going to WWE. Stranger things have happened.

Nakamura is a huge project for WWE. If they keep him strong it might entice more Japanese talent to take the plunge.

I would love a network special in Japan again. Nakamura v Ibushi ?. Be brillant.

sky88

I never thought we would see nakamaura in wwe so there's always a chance of it happening.

Lithium93_

Can't see it happening. He's got everything in Japan.

Jerichoholic

I hope to God it never happens and AJ and Nak go back to Japan.

Lithium93_

Jerichoholic wrote: »

I hope to God it never happens and AJ and Nak go back to Japan.

And Gallows & Anderson as well.

gerrybbadd

Jesus, the Drifter was very off his mark for the Balor run in. Was plainly obvious when Balor started to look around all confused, but nobody was there yet.

Really enjoying the Joe / Lesnar angle. And Strowman is awesome as usual. The way he launched Apollo was class (and Graves nearly pissing himself made it all the better).

The Goldust / R Truth angle is boring already.

Officer999

Can people explain to me what the Wyatt v Rollins feud is about?
I don't actually know why they're feuding

Officer999

Officer999 wrote: »

Can people explain to me what the Wyatt v Rollins feud is about?
I don't actually know why they're feuding

No one does. But effectively Bray said to Rollins you are next. And now Bray will lose the feud because Bray never wins

beakerjoe

Officer999 wrote: »

Can people explain to me what the Wyatt v Rollins feud is about?
I don't actually know why they're feuding

Its the standard Bray Wyatt feud. Feud for no reason other than Bray is focusing his rambling, nonsenscial promos on his opponent. No one gets over and people care a little less about those involved.

sky88

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its the standard Bray Wyatt feud. Feud for no reason other than Bray is focusing his rambling, nonsenscial promos on his opponent. No one gets over and people care a little less about those involved.

i honestly think finn was better off feuding with the drifter than being stuck in the feud with bray

beakerjoe

Finn still hasnt shown any personality since moving up to WWE. While his in ring work is great to see, he works hard and delivers match wise and hes got a lot of pressence about him. Plus hes got a sweet entrance, but he is seriously lacking when it comes to character. Hes blandy mcbland when he speaks. He always seems utterly nervous on the mic and his speech and speaking ability is seriously lacking when compared to others. He cant cut a decent promo.

DM_7

beakerjoe wrote: »

Finn still hasnt shown any personality since moving up to WWE. While his in ring work is great to see, he works hard and delivers match wise and hes got a lot of pressence about him. Plus hes got a sweet entrance, but he is seriously lacking when it comes to character. Hes blandy mcbland when he speaks. He always seems utterly nervous on the mic and his speech and speaking ability is seriously lacking when compared to others. He cant cut a decent promo.

Can't we replace replace Finn with face? WWE do a horrible job with getting a face to be interesting.

The cycle seems to be get turned heel as you were bland, get some personality as a bad guy, fans start to enjoy you and cheer for you against bland face, turn you face but get you to act like fool or and be bland, put you against heel the fans are starting to cheer, wonder where it went wrong.

beakerjoe

DM_7 wrote: »

Can't we replace replace Finn with face? WWE do a horrible job with getting a face to be interesting.

The cycle seems to be get turned heel as you were bland, get some personality as a bad guy, fans start to enjoy you and cheer for you against bland face, turn you face but get you to act like fool or and be bland, put you against heel the fans are starting to cheer, wonder where it went wrong.

To a point yes, But I don’t think its all WWEs fault in the case of Finn. Its not his booking I have a problem with as it hasn’t been necessarily bad (it hasn’t been great either but its another story).

Everytime I hear Finn speak since he joined WWE, hes been very wooden when cutting a backstage segment, or an in ring promo. He appears to be nervous or anxious.

Finn is a very talented guy in terms of his in ring ability. He has a lot of charisma in how he walks, looks and carries himself. He has a kick ass entrance too and the body paint gimmick (esp pre WWE) a huge plus. He has a lot going for him.

Hes also a nice guy outside of the ring. He comes off very down to earth and likeable.

But I just can’t warm to him as a wrestling personality. Its not necessarily what he’s saying, but it’s how hes saying it. His delivery is very stiff and wooden, he comes across like a man just saying his lines rather than a man who means what he says. Its killing his character and hes not connecting with them as much as he should be.

I fear for him because of this. Going by what I usually perceive Vince to be thinking, I think Finn wont make it as a main eventer.

beakerjoe

beakerjoe wrote: »

But I just can’t warm to him as a wrestling personality. Its not necessarily what he’s saying, but it’s how hes saying it. His delivery is very stiff and wooden, he comes across like a man just saying his lines rather than a man who means what he says. Its killing his character and hes not connecting with them as much as he should be.

Isn't this an issue for at least 80% of talent in WWE. They all come out sounding like it's a script with very little belief in what's happening.

beakerjoe

connemara man wrote: »

Isn't this an issue for at least 80% of talent in WWE. They all come out sounding like it's a script with very little belief in what's happening.

I think Finns the worst off all though. I can't think of many worst than him at the minute. He resembles a sub-par fair city actor at the best of times. I look at others who I believe are lacking in that department (Big Cass, Cesaro, Baron Corbin) and hes below all of them promo wise in my eyes.

SureYWouldntYa

connemara man wrote: »

Isn't this an issue for at least 80% of talent in WWE. They all come out sounding like it's a script with very little belief in what's happening.

They all come out with a word for word script, thats one of the problems

They just don't let the talent be themselves or what they want them to be anymore, if somebody is allowed to be themselves they might lose years in investment like with the Rock, dya think he had his word for word script handed to him

It's hard to have belief when there's no long term plan, things are being booked on a week by week basis and changed hourly come the day of the event

The main thing I find is in general they don't seem to have direction, wrestlers should be wrestling to prove themselves as good enough and be the champion one day, the title should be the be all and end all of the business but it's not anymore

Lithium93_

On the whole scripts thing, apparently the New Day/Usos rap battle segment was done on the fly, neither teams knew what the other were gonna say.

There needs to be a whole lot more freedom with promos.

Lithium93_

It's that time of the bastard week again, another Monday, another RAW, anyone know what episode this is?

Good gracious, Great Balls Of Fire is in the history books, RAW now turns it's attention to "The biggest party of the Summer" Summerfest, sorry Summerslam. And after tonight's RAW, on the WWE Network, WWE 24 Kurt Angle Homecoming, featuring an appearance by Dixie Carter, yes you all read that right.

Anyways, here's are your preview points.

Does Reigns deserve a Universal Championship Match?

It looks to be the Summer of The Beast

How will accounts be settled following Bank robbery?

Who will step up to challenge the Iron Men?

Rollins fails to stop the self-appointed "god"

WinnyThePoo

Has reigned turned heel?.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Kicking off with Cass is a change at least

ricero

Gotta admit i enjoyed that opening

princemuzzy

cass is a better heel than face

hufpc8w3adnk65

Even tho he has the height he really needs to hit the gym hard if he wants to last in the main event.. his upper body is very flabby

princemuzzy

MrMac84 wrote: »

Even tho he has the height he really needs to hit the gym hard if he wants to last in the main event.. his upper body is very flabby

no need vinny mac will have him dressing like 2017 kevin nash inside 3 months

PTH2009

A bit of a 'Broken' promo just there for the hardyz

Jerichoholic

PTH2009 wrote: »

A bit of a 'Broken' promo just there for the hardyz

Yup, think they have sorted all that out now.

PTH2009

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Yup, think they have sorted all that out now.

I'd say so and losing too gallows and Anderson may be the start of it and now the revival are after them

hufpc8w3adnk65

I'd forgotten how hard it is to watch Raw live with all the adds

J. Marston

Goldust is one of the more talented actors in WWE.

martyos121

Dying to know who Kurt was on the phone to, they've built this up quite well and I'm really looking forward to being disappointed by it.

Bet it's an illegitimate son storyline and it turns out to be Chad Gable. Either that or he's doing Steph. :pac:

Good Raw anyway, it's been improving recently but I'd like to see Finn Balor given an actual feud, he has zero direction at the moment.