RAW Superthread

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lawlolawl wrote: »

Lesnar sucks and is one of the major reasons why WWE ratings are in the toilet.


No one wants to see some disinterested part-timer who obviously doesn't give two ****s about the business work the same tedious "match" over and over.


I admire his ability to hustle a multi-billion dollar corporation whilst putting in the absolute bare minimum of effort but if he disappeared from the wrestling landscape tomorrow it would be no loss whatsoever.

Lesnar is both one of the best to ever do it and a top 5 box office draw of all time.

sky88

lawlolawl wrote: »

Hey now, Roman had a good two shows were he didn't get booed out of the arena! That's literally the best they've ever managed with him.

I actually feel bad for him. I've heard interviews with him and he seems like a good dude. It's not his fault that he is being pushed far beyond his abilities because he is related to The Rock.

His ceiling is half a mediocre tag team that gets a match on Main Event now and then

with the exception of kenny roman is better wrestler than everyone in AEW if you take your clearly anti wwe bias away you might realize that.

Rock Lesnar

2nd week in a row my sky planner has not recorded Raw, think its trying to tell me something

RollieFingers

Lesnar dancing being the highlight of Raw says it all...just awful. Can not take Kofi/Dolph seriously as a WWE championship feud, Zigglers tears and promos are laughable.

Lord TSC

During the first hour of Raw, there was a grand total of 1 minute and 32 seconds of actual wrestling.

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Lord TSC wrote: »

During the first hour of Raw, there was a grand total of 1 minute and 32 seconds of actual wrestling.

You'd think considering all they have going for them at the minute is quality in ring wrestlers they'd maybe lean on it but no, exposing these guys weakness' and hiding their strengths every week is the way they continue to run with it.

RollieFingers

Lord TSC wrote: »

During the first hour of Raw, there was a grand total of 1 minute and 32 seconds of actual wrestling.

And that involved Shane McMahon :P was cool to see Lance on Raw though, he's done some good stuff in MLW.

ERG89

correction wrote:

Lesnar is both one of the best to ever do it and a top 5 box office draw of all time.

In UFC he was a mahoosive draw in wrestling however that statement is laughable. He's not even a top 5 draw in WWF/E history much less all of wrestling.

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ERG89 wrote: »

In UFC he was a mahoosive draw in wrestling however that statement is laughable. He's not even a top 5 draw in WWF/E history much less all of wrestling.

All time is a stretch alright. But who from Hogan onwards in WWE is ahead? Hogan, Austin, Rock and Cena. I'm struggling to think of anyone else to put ahead of him.

ERG89

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All time is a stretch alright. But who from Hogan onwards in WWE is ahead? Hogan, Austin, Rock and Cena. I'm struggling to think of anyone else to put ahead of him.

Bruno.
Savage & Warrior were big names too but only one of them kept the ship on course when Hogan wasn't on top; that was Randy.
I'd argue Bret & Hbk don't get the credit they deserve either as WWF was a total mess in when they were champions but they did their part to try get the likes of Sid, Diesel & Yokozuna over when Vince insisted on going with them.
Undertaker like a Foley it's harder to gauge as both were rarely put on top but both a lot of Mania's & PPV's were sold with their names.
Lesnar came in not long after WWE were declining in popularity after the attitude era ended & when he hasn't stopped the bleed in ratings the last few years. I don't think his (or anyone else's) name on the marquee now means WWE are going to sell out.

Loughc

Corbin and Ziggler as number 1 contenders offer no threat to the champions at all. God I hope Lesnar cashes in and just reigns forever. Rollins is blander than Finn at this stage.

sky88

did they do or say anything to renne last night as revenge for dean or are they slightly less petty than usual

Angron

https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1133198887618043905?s=19

Yowza.

CastorTroy

It was obvious those questions were planted, though it was funny seeing Kayla pulling the mic away.

So apparently Braun and Lashley were eliminated from a no DQ match due to leaving the ring area?

They're stuck spinning their wheels with the women since they're obviously holding off on promoting their next PPV until after Super Showdown.

lawlolawl

Ricochet vs Cesaro was cut from the Hulu version of Raw.

Guess they had to make sure they didn't cut any of that first 58-odd minute block of absolutely no wrestling.

ThePott

Angron wrote: »

https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1133198887618043905?s=19

Yowza.

Yowie Wowie

lawlolawl

Dave Meltzer explaining the Sami AEW mention:


"It was scripted. They just lied to their own employees to make it out like Sami went against the script, not realizing anyone with a brain knows about the 15 second delay. Not to mention the people who did know would eventually tell those who don't.

This is Bischoff WCW and they didn't learn a thing from it. It draws no money and only makes paranoid talent even more paranoid, and makes employees think they're working for an insane company, neither of which is a positive."

J. Marston

Brock being punished for his "disrespectful actions" aka being entertaining...

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1134178571528810496?s=19

Gotta find some nonsense reason to write him off TV for a while.

lawlolawl

J. Marston wrote: »

Brock being punished for his "disrespectful actions" aka being entertaining...

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1134178571528810496?s=19

Gotta find some nonsense reason to write him off TV for a while.

Cody messed up the MITB briefcase 6 years ago and nothing happened to him.

nazmoalex

Those flowers on Stephanie's dress look like odd shaped nipples, that's the most interesting thing about this video!

JP Liz V1

J. Marston wrote: »

Brock being punished for his "disrespectful actions" aka being entertaining...

https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1134178571528810496?s=19

Gotta find some nonsense reason to write him off TV for a while.

Just when he got some bit interesting

CastorTroy

I just had to google who the tag champs are. There's only 1 tag team story at the moment and it doesn't involve them, because why would the champions be in the main story?

J. Marston

Brock is cashing in on Monday, or so we're supposed to believe...

https://twitter.com/heymanhustle/status/1134535304390545411?s=21

lawlolawl

J. Marston wrote: »

Brock is cashing in on Monday, or so we're supposed to believe...

https://twitter.com/heymanhustle/status/1134535304390545411?s=21

How they think the prospect of another Brock title reign will bring back viewers is beyond me.

martyos121

Calling a swerve on that one. Let’s be honest, there’s more chance of Linda McMahon having a match on Raw than Brock Lesnar.

He has literally wrestled zero matches on weekly TV since he returned in 2012.

Pentecost

martyos121 wrote: »

Calling a swerve on that one. Let’s be honest, there’s more chance of Linda McMahon having a match on Raw than Brock Lesnar.

He has literally wrestled zero matches on weekly TV since he returned in 2012.

They’ll probably have Becky come out and pin Seth.

J. Marston

Pentecost wrote: »

They’ll probably have Becky come out and pin Seth.

Having Brock threaten all night to cash in and instead all he does is F5 Becky could lead to a good blood feud between him and Seth but it isn't 2000 so that isn't allowed.

Agent Coulson

That R Truth reveal was funny.

grames_bond

One post during raw....and it was about the throw away R-Truth comedy bit...jesus that speaks volumes!

sky88

Had a real bad insomnia ridden night last night turned it on and actually thought it was a good show with bray and truth as clear standouts