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J. Marston · 03-07-2018 12:36PM

Roman, Roman, Roman and more Roman.

martyos121 · 03-07-2018 01:16PM

Lesnar’s reign as champion is quite possibly the worst in WWE history and a dark period for the company in general. It’s beyond embarrassing how they’ve let it go this far, he’s not even showing up at the second biggest show of the year and they still fcuking persist with it. They can’t even name a number one contender because there’s no sign of him showing up any time soon. What’s worse is that Vince is enabling it all.

SlickRic · 03-07-2018 02:47PM

martyos121 wrote: »

Lesnar’s reign as champion is quite possibly the worst in WWE history and a dark period for the company in general. It’s beyond embarrassing how they’ve let it go this far, he’s not even showing up at the second biggest show of the year and they still fcuking persist with it. They can’t even name a number one contender because there’s no sign of him showing up any time soon. What’s worse is that Vince is enabling it all.

because he's obsessed with Roman being the one to fúcking end the reign, because in his fúcking head, he still believes that if he times the switch right, Reigns will get over.

he won't.

ever.

because as I've said countless times, they fúcked Roman up years ago now, and it's pretty irredeemable bar an epic heel turn. that may not even work now because it's gone on so fúcking long.

the combination of the company choosing him over Bryan when Bryan was at his hottest, Vince's insistence that Reigns show flashes of John Cena by chuckling and using phrases like 'suffering suckotash', and the fact that Reigns has failed for 3 fúcking years now against Brock means Roman has absolutely no chance of being who they want him to be.

Officer999 · 03-07-2018 02:53PM

That Braun KO segment was awful.

I enjoyed the Braun gimmicky stunts before but this was bad, really bad. Especially the production of it.
Duck tape trapped KO inside?? How convenient a roll of it was lying there. How convenient the portable already had a strap to pull attached. And ramps on the side of the stage to pull it up too.
The whole thing looked cheap and awful.

Rock Lesnar · 03-07-2018 03:19PM

What has Owens done to deserve the utter stupidity of been put in a porta loo and shoved off a stage, jesus christ.

Rock Lesnar · 03-07-2018 03:27PM

Im more bored of Braun now then i ever was, if you're gonna push him, have him run through people in matches, put the belt on him and make him actually unstoppable, im sick looking at him in stupid segments like that last night.

SlickRic · 03-07-2018 03:43PM

Braun is learning the same lesson Angle learned during his 'Yippee Kayay' time in the Alliance.

never show WWE that you have any sort of ability to get comedy or gimmicky shít over, because they will pounce on it and make you do it until it's completely fúcking redundant.

Braun got the ambulance tipping over huge.
He got the ridiculous moment he came back out of the dumpster truck over.

So now WWE just keeps trying to think of shít that he can destroy, no matter how silly, and even though it's actually actively making him less over.

Classic Vince.

Lord TSC · 03-07-2018 03:49PM

I'm enjoying the Braun vs Owens stuff.

It's silly, sure. But it's also one of the only segments I can show my brother and mother each week, and which they follow up on the following. It's the story that they show interest in. That, and Hardy/Bray vs B Team.

Owens is a cartoon villain foil to Braun's cartoon Hulk. And yeah, it's stupid and silly but at least it's somewhat entertaining, compared to Roman's act.

They also know the second they want to flip Braun back to super serious, they can. Cause his size and power will make him a threat to anyone the second they want him to be one.

Now, I do wish owens had gotten some semblance of fight back. I think they could do with Owens doing something OTT to Braun, even if Bryan inevitably shrugs it off. Cause right now, a match between the two will be so one sided. They could though have it that at the PPV, Owens finally outsmarts bruan. Have him murder Braun with chair strikes to the knees, and juxtaposition the serious, deadly side of Owens with the current comedy routine, show his intelligence by hacking Braun down to size.

HandsomeBob · 03-07-2018 04:41PM

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

What has Owens done to deserve the utter stupidity of been put in a porta loo and shoved off a stage, jesus christ.

He signed what I'm sure was a lucrative contract just recently so I can only assume he's happy with his lot. I don't get the impression he's unhappy doing this silly sh1t so more power to him if that's what he wants.

ERG89 · 03-07-2018 04:47PM

The real question is, did Vince take a dump in that portable toilet?

Rock Lesnar · 03-07-2018 05:24PM

HandsomeBob wrote: »

He signed what I'm sure was a lucrative contract just recently so I can only assume he's happy with his lot. I don't get the impression he's unhappy doing this silly sh1t so more power to him if that's what he wants.

I know he signed a new deal and im sure hes delighted with the contract, would he be so happy to go from such heights of attacking vince to now getting pushed off a stage in a porta loo, im not so sure.

PTH2009 · 03-07-2018 06:30PM

Meh raw

KO and Strowman stuff is entertaining but will prob get old quickly

Even Lashely doesnt like Roman

CastorTroy · 03-07-2018 06:35PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Roman, Roman, Roman and more Roman.

Gotta give the people what they want

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Im more bored of Braun now then i ever was, if you're gonna push him, have him run through people in matches, put the belt on him and make him actually unstoppable, im sick looking at him in stupid segments like that last night.

Easier said than done when they don't even know when the belt will show up again.
Braun has a year to cash in so if they insist on Lesnar keeping the title, they could make him waste it.

So why weren't Bob and Rom sent to counselling? Angle clearly has no idea how the business works, even though I'm sure he's said previously that around there, people settle things in the ring. Yet he sends Sasha and Bayley for therapy.

And we only have 2 matches with stipulations for Extreme Rules?

Loughc · 03-07-2018 07:33PM

ERG89 wrote: »

The real question is, did Vince take a dump in that portable toilet?

Nope Vince only takes dumps on the raw script and us fans.

HandsomeBob · 03-07-2018 07:56PM

Hilarious thing about the Lashley and Roman feud is that it could be great but right now its a two face feud trying to be edgy with Lashley's "shoots" on Roman. All it does is make Lashley look like an utter lame-o.....then again I couldn't be bothered seeing Lashley go heel and do a Lesnar knock off gimmick.

Don't really get why they brought him in tbh.

HandsomeBob · 03-07-2018 07:56PM

Hilarious thing about the Lashley and Roman feud is that it could be great but right now its a two face feud trying to be edgy with Lashley's "shoots" on Roman. All it does is make Lashley look like an utter lame-o.....then again I couldn't be bothered seeing Lashley go heel and do a Lesnar knock off gimmick.

Don't really get why they brought him in tbh.

ERG89 · 03-07-2018 08:02PM

Loughc wrote:

Nope Vince only takes dumps on the raw script and us fans.

They don't care now after the tv deal. That is not an excuse for the forgettable, poor output by them.
Still they may get that Emmy nomination for Raw that they've been pushing for :rolleyes:

J. Marston · 03-07-2018 08:09PM

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Hilarious thing about the Lashley and Roman feud is that it could be great but right now its a two face feud trying to be edgy with Lashley's "shoots" on Roman. All it does is make Lashley look like an utter lame-o.....then again I couldn't be bothered seeing Lashley go heel and do a Lesnar knock off gimmick.

Don't really get why they brought him in tbh.

That's the plan. Make Roman look "cool" when he is the furthest thing from it. The man said Yizzerd last night, for God sake.

Vince's scorched earth policy of tanking the main title and the popularity of everyone around Roman ain't gonna work.

SureYWouldntYa · 04-07-2018 08:01PM

J. Marston wrote: »

That's the plan. Make Roman look "cool" when he is the furthest thing from it. The man said Yizzerd last night, for God sake.

Vince's scorched earth policy of tanking the main title and the popularity of everyone around Roman ain't gonna work.

Part of me thinks they're happy with Lesnar not showing up much because how could not cheer Reigns when he does conquer Lesnar

Part of me thinks I'm just being a cynic at the same time mind and they couldn't be that stupid

07-07-2018 04:02AM

SlickRic wrote: »

because he's obsessed with Roman being the one to fúcking end the reign, because in his fúcking head, he still believes that if he times the switch right, Reigns will get over.

he won't.

ever.

Yeah I just read Roman and Lashley will be main eventing Extreme Rules. On a card where you have a super over and fantastic WWE Champ taking on a super over and fresh challenger, they give us these two chumps with zero heat and zero, well anything.

I've watched religiously since 1991. Tape traded with weirdos from the Buy&Sell in Town when I was entering my teenage years. Stayed loyal when the buisness was in the gutter with cartoony gimmicks, stayed up all night on school nights to watch shows, tuned in to scrambled sky sports when we didn't have it just to hear the action. I honestly will not be bothering my bollox tuning into see this PPV. It's probably gonna just be NXT and the Big 4 from here on out. They don't deserve my time I don't think. Shame.

CastorTroy · 07-07-2018 02:19PM

Yeah, how many title matches are on the card and none are the main event. And he has main evented all dual brand ppvs since Mania. If pushing dual brand ppvs they should alternate the main event between brands. Of course they'll refer to AJ's match as the first of their main events

DM_7 · 07-07-2018 03:50PM

At least putting him on last allows people to sleep earlier.

CastorTroy · 07-07-2018 07:32PM

Was it Mania or Backlash that people started leaving early during his match?

J. Marston · 07-07-2018 08:11PM

Backlash. Along with chants such as Boring, Same old shìt and Beat the Traffic.

Lord TSC · 07-07-2018 08:36PM

And they didn't have Ziegler vs Rollins burning them out

That Iron Man match will ever be a barn burner, or a tremendous lengthy crowd killer. Either way, following it up with a Reigns vs Lashley main event is suicide, and shows an utter lack of foresight in WWE. They have to know putting that last will be suicidal. I just can't believe they are that stupid.

CastorTroy · 07-07-2018 09:37PM

Clearly they were walking out because of Samoa Joe. It wasn't because of Roman.
Be interesting to see if it happens again

Loughc · 08-07-2018 12:12AM

CastorTroy wrote: »

Clearly they were walking out because of Samoa Joe. It wasn't because of Roman.
Be interesting to see if it happens again

They best thing the crowd could do is not boo but simply leave.

Although knowing Vince he’ll feed the line to the commentators that Kurt Angle has just made this an empty arena match.

SureYWouldntYa · 08-07-2018 11:04AM

With Brock Lesnar seemingly making his return to the UFC soon after his appearance last night, i wonder will they actually strip him soon or address it on Raw

Pentecost · 08-07-2018 11:38AM

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

With Brock Lesnar seemingly making his return to the UFC soon after his appearance last night, i wonder will they actually strip him soon or address it on Raw

He probably won’t be fighting for a few months yet so there’ll be time for you know who to finally get his win.

SureYWouldntYa · 08-07-2018 11:51AM

Pentecost wrote: »

He probably won’t be fighting for a few months yet so there’ll be time for you know who to finally get his win.

Will Lesnar risk that though? As well as the physical danger, a loss even in the fake world can’t help his star power

If he does face Reigns at Summerslam, we’ll see another limp match like the one against Ambrose

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