Meal Bin

pat73

Im looking to get one for the winter to save money v bags.looking to get a coated one to match the colour of the shed.Can they be got coated inside,reason im asking is my neighbour has 2 bins about 5 years old and has had panels replaced on one already and he is starting to see rust coming out through the other one now.I dont mind paying abit extra for quality if it means i have a trouble free bin.A good recommendation on a company who makes a good bin is welcome as well.

whelan2

mcAree make good ones, have a 20 tonnes one here this years , no problem with it https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwicvIOKr7vPAhXHI8AKHX0bASoQFggbMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mcaree-eng.com%2F&usg=AFQjCNFROmavrx448CtTuTIPipR-KpbUMg&sig2=PcmU4UVhq_GTk2T0TqQKWw&bvm=bv.134495766,d.d2s

farmertipp

pat73 wrote: »

Im looking to get one for the winter to save money v bags.looking to get a coated one to match the colour of the shed.Can they be got coated inside,reason im asking is my neighbour has 2 bins about 5 years old and has had panels replaced on one already and he is starting to see rust coming out through the other one now.I dont mind paying abit extra for quality if it means i have a trouble free bin.A good recommendation on a company who makes a good bin is welcome as well.

Can you give us a clue as to make of neighbours bins? 5 years seem a bit quick to fail..

pat73

farmertipp wrote: »

Can you give us a clue as to make of neighbours bins? 5 years seem a bit quick to fail..

I don't think it's fair to mention their name on this thread but il pm u

Mooooo

Have 3 bins here from crowleys, cant fault them, all galvanised tho. Neighbour has a spirofeed has no issues also as far as i know. Galvanising a better job i reckon. get plenty sight glasses anyway, and get a spout to suit how you'll empty it. the mcaree ones look good with the sheeting on the bottom handy spot to store bags etc

Cavanjack

Any issues with these bins with course ration getting stuck and going off or are Ye just using nuts? Still blowing meal into open sheds and lofts here.

Mooooo

Get 3 way mixes and coarse ration here in 2 bins during the winter, they go alrite but these just have a shoot at the bottom no augur and they would be emptied rel fast., maybe 2 weeks. sides are flat not corrugated

Muckit

Hear of lads using freight containers, welding on a pipe to blow meal into them.

Never wrestle with pigs

Muckit wrote: »

Hear of lads using freight containers, welding on a pipe to blow meal into them.

Was looking into that myself, but a good one cost more than a bin! Plus you have to shovel it all. Feck that if I'm going to spend a few quid on it, it would be nice to not use the shovel!

orm0nd

Muckit wrote:

Hear of lads using freight containers, welding on a pipe to blow meal into them.

Terrible accident locally when the doors burst open while been filled. Never under estimate the dangers of compressed air.

Reggie.

orm0nd wrote: »

Terrible accident locally when the doors burst open while been filled. Never under estimate the dangers of compressed air.

Just open the doors. That's what we do

Sam Kade

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Was looking into that myself, but a good one cost more than a bin! Plus you have to shovel it all. Feck that if I'm going to spend a few quid on it, it would be nice to not use the shovel!

I'd rather be shoveling than wrestling with pigs

kowtow

For various complicated reasons including the height of the augurs into the parlour we are going to build a bin / loft of sorts this year.

Torn between building one high up (which we would need to blow into) or building a more complicated setup with an extra augur (we have lots of spare augurs) which is lower down and which we could fill from a bag.

I'm too mean to buy a third set of augurs (flexi ones) and I don't like staring at big steel bins anyway.

Has anyone built a bin or store that feeds augurs? Blow in or otherwise? I was thinking of fiberglass over marine ply inside a timber / steel frame.

Edit: we only ever need a tonne or two in the bin, blow in we'd need to allow 4 I suppose unless we could persuade them to bring less.

Zr105

kowtow wrote: »

For various complicated reasons including the height of the augurs into the parlour we are going to build a bin / loft of sorts this year.

Torn between building one high up (which we would need to blow into) or building a more complicated setup with an extra augur (we have lots of spare augurs) which is lower down and which we could fill from a bag.

I'm too mean to buy a third set of augurs (flexi ones) and I don't like staring at big steel bins anyway.

Has anyone built a bin or store that feeds augurs? Blow in or otherwise? I was thinking of fiberglass over marine ply inside a timber / steel frame.

Edit: we only ever need a tonne or two in the bin, blow in we'd need to allow 4 I suppose unless we could persuade them to bring less.

You say you've an extra auger, why not build the bin up high and use the additional auger just to fill it, similar to a fill auger on a corn drill, just a small hopper on the bottom of auger that you can open the bag over. You could also add a pipe to it so you could get it blown in if ever needed

kowtow

Zr105 wrote:

You say you've an extra auger, why not build the bin up high and use the additional auger just to fill it, similar to a fill auger on a corn drill, just a small hopper on the bottom of auger that you can open the bag over. You could also add a pipe to it so you could get it blown in if ever needed

Was kind of thinking that way... just wondering had anyone done anything similar.

Need to figure out if I can reverse some of the right angle joints in the augurs as well..

MikeSoys

just looking at the V-mac there it seems to be popular ... but wondering what size to get? I've a 4 bay single shed[store cattle], and see i can get 5t, 6t,7t, 8t, 9t etc...im thinking a 5 tonne would be enough any suggestions?

Cavanjack

MikeSoys wrote: »

just looking at the V-mac there it seems to be popular ... but wondering what size to get? I've a 4 bay single shed[store cattle], and see i can get 5t, 6t,7t, 8t, 9t etc...im thinking a 5 tonne would be enough any suggestions?

How many cattle will you be feeding and how much meal will they be eating? Then get a bin that'll hold enough meal for a month or 6 weeks.

wrangler

Cavanjack wrote: »

How many cattle will you be feeding and how much meal will they be eating? Then get a bin that'll hold enough meal for a month or 6 weeks.

Merchants usually have a minimum delivery amount too, so I suppose that plus 25% so you don't run out

MikeSoys

ok thanks, roughly it was 52lbs per pen and ive 4 pens..

Mooooo

Depending on if it's in nut or meal form or what you are getting a bin may not hold it's advertised weight. E.g. a 4 ton bin may hold 4 ton of nuts but not of meal so get a bin that is 20% bigger than what you would normally order in a load. Also there tends not to be a whole lot of price difference between bigger and smaller bins so price em up before deciding

orm0nd

I think less than 100€ between 5 ton and 6 ton ,

6 ton a no brainer imo, you can get them on legs or sheeted to ground for storage if ypu wish

lakill Farm

wrangler wrote: »

Merchants usually have a minimum delivery amount too, so I suppose that plus 25% so you don't run out

some are 3t minimum others are 4t minimum

sheeted to the ground is a lovely job. keep the elements off and put a little light in and work away on dark mornings or evenings

Dakota Dan

What's the story with this? Surely just some messer on donedeal.

https://www.donedeal.ie/feedingequipment-for-sale/feed-meal-bin/19221600

older by the day

Dakota Dan wrote: »

What's the story with this? Surely just some messer on donedeal.

https://www.donedeal.ie/feedingequipment-for-sale/feed-meal-bin/19221600

Forgot a zero probably. I had slabs left over and insulated the walls of an old pig house and covered under the roof with plastic it did fine for blowing in small amounts of meal. But you can't beat a bin the best investment you can make, very clean

MikeSoys

Dakota Dan wrote: »

What's the story with this? Surely just some messer on donedeal.

https://www.donedeal.ie/feedingequipment-for-sale/feed-meal-bin/19221600

i guess its actually a rocket near ready to take off just looking as a meal silo...i rang V-mac its 2,906 for 5t and 6t is 100 more...sheeting to the ground. was looking at the 'accessories' section like the meal barrow... are they worth considering? or just using a normal considerably cheaper wheel barrow..

Dakota Dan

older by the day wrote: »

Forgot a zero probably. I had slabs left over and insulated the walls of an old pig house and covered under the roof with plastic it did fine for blowing in small amounts of meal. But you can't beat a bin the best investment you can make, very clean

Doubtful, it would hardly sell that fast when you factor in the cost of taking down, transport and erecting it would cost the same as a reconditioned bin from a manufacturer.

TooOldBoots

How do you know how much or what tonnage of meal you got from the merchant? Is their some type of scales on the Bin or is it a case of when full it contains X amount of nuts?

Hard Knocks

TooOldBoots wrote: »

How do you know how much or what tonnage of meal you got from the merchant? Is their some type of scales on the Bin or is it a case of when full it contains X amount of nuts?

It’ll be on the docket

Dakota Dan

TooOldBoots wrote: »

How do you know how much or what tonnage of meal you got from the merchant? Is their some type of scales on the Bin or is it a case of when full it contains X amount of nuts?

You measure it with your old boots.

Mooooo

Do anybody ye have a tote bin?

fastrac

Usually you will get a discount for 8tonnes and up so id be going for that

whelan2

Also handier to have a bigger bin if meal prices are going to jump. I have a 16 tonne one and get a fill it price is going to rocket

TooOldBoots

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Buford T. Justice

Dakota Dan wrote: »

You measure it with your old boots.

cute geoge

whelan2 wrote: »

Also handier to have a bigger bin if meal prices are going to jump. I have a 16 tonne one and get a fill it price is going to rocket

What will happen then when mill sends out 16 ton of s##t ,I am milking 50 cows with a 5 ton bin ,i would never have to fill more then once per month .I often notice the start of load from mill would be excellent quality but once bin half empties ,there would be less desirable quality!!!!

DaDerv

How long could meal last in a bin? Would it go off?

I would use roughly 10 tonne of meal over a 4-5 month period on weanlings. Minimum delivery for crowds seems to vary between 3-4 tonne. Would it last 2 months in the bin and then refill, or is a bin not justifiable.

wrangler

DaDerv wrote: »

How long could meal last in a bin? Would it go off?

I would use roughly 10 tonne of meal over a 4-5 month period on weanlings. Minimum delivery for crowds seems to vary between 3-4 tonne. Would it last 2 months in the bin and then refill, or is a bin not justifiable.

Do bins have condensation in cold weather, I think I'd like it moving quicker than you say.
What;s the difference in price for bags vs bulk delivered to your yard, if it's only €40/ton....is ti worth the hassle for €400/year.
Bins need a very good concrete pad under them too.....maybe a foot of concrete

lakill Farm

wrangler wrote: »

Do bins have condensation in cold weather, I think I'd like it moving quicker than you say.
What;s the difference in price for bags vs bulk delivered to your yard, if it's only €40/ton....is ti worth the hassle for €400/year.
Bins need a very good concrete pad under them too.....maybe a foot of concrete

ye 3m square (10ft square) by 10/12 inch is about 2.75m3 of concrete

orm0nd

DaDerv wrote: »

How long could meal last in a bin? Would it go off?

I would use roughly 10 tonne of meal over a 4-5 month period on weanlings. Minimum delivery for crowds seems to vary between 3-4 tonne. Would it last 2 months in the bin and then refill, or is a bin not justifiable.

rep told me it lasts better in cold temperature , ecpecially minerals & vits. don't know if it's true or not

we usually try to order for 4 weeks max.

whelan2

cute geoge wrote: »

What will happen then when mill sends out 16 ton of s##t ,I am milking 50 cows with a 5 ton bin ,i would never have to fill more then once per month .I often notice the start of load from mill would be excellent quality but once bin half empties ,there would be less desirable quality!!!!

In fairness it's not often you get a bad load. The date on the meal docket says the meal is good for 3 months. What age is your meal bin. The 16 tonne would be used within the 3 months here. I'm just saying if the scope is there to hold the few extra tonne so be it. Would normally order 8-10tonne to do me a month but if I order an extra few tonne I mightnt need meal the next month iykwim.

raypallas

cute geoge wrote:

What will happen then when mill sends out 16 ton of s##t ,I am milking 50 cows with a 5 ton bin ,i would never have to fill more then once per month .I often notice the start of load from mill would be excellent quality but once bin half empties ,there would be less desirable quality!!!!

Keeping the bin clean has a lot to do with it as well, not many people would actually clean there bin. If there was a bad bit stuck inside it wouldn't be long putting the next batch off.

MikeSoys

raypallas wrote: »

Keeping the bin clean has a lot to do with it as well, not many people would actually clean there bin. If there was a bad bit stuck inside it wouldn't be long putting the next batch off.

how to you clean a meal bin?

Wessel3

3 months is the life expectancy of meal and . minerals.
Using bags here but only using a small amount 0.5/1 ton a month summer and winter . Lot of waste from rats though eating through bags and meal going blue moulded

whelan2

MikeSoys wrote: »

how to you clean a meal bin?

Give it a few wallop from the outside. Anything stuck will fall down

Reggie.

whelan2 wrote: »

Give it a few wallop from the outside. Anything stuck will fall down

I'd surly break it

lakill Farm

Wessel3 wrote: »

3 months is the life expectancy of meal and . minerals.
Using bags here but only using a small amount 0.5/1 ton a month summer and winter . Lot of waste from rats though eating through bags and meal going blue moulded

get yourself a few JFC meal tubs so

Mooooo

Anyone have one of these?
https://www.hartnett-products.ie/collections/trailers/products/mobile-meal-bin-trailer

I inquired about mounted ones for the tractor off crowleys but they will only do them on pallet forks. If near a coop these may be a good option

lakill Farm

Mooooo wrote: »

Anyone have one of these?
https://www.hartnett-products.ie/collections/trailers/products/mobile-meal-bin-trailer

I inquired about mounted ones for the tractor off crowleys but they will only do them on pallet forks. If near a coop these may be a good option

8x4 car trailer €1,000
jfc meal tub x 2 €540 (600kg capacity each)

you can have the 8x4 trailer for use all year around

DaDerv

lakill Farm wrote: »

8x4 car trailer €1,000
jfc meal tub x 2 €540 (600kg capacity each)

you can have the 8x4 trailer for use all year around

Yeah, but will it look as shiney?

raypallas

MikeSoys wrote:

how to you clean a meal bin?

whelan2 wrote:

Give it a few wallop from the outside. Anything stuck will fall down

In through the inspection door on the side, you'll need a ladder, dust mask and a sweeping brush. You need to have a small bit of feed in the cone to put the ladder on. Two man job tho, not a job to do on your own. Would always have somebody on the outside.

49801

Mooooo wrote: »

Anyone have one of these?
https://www.hartnett-products.ie/collections/trailers/products/mobile-meal-bin-trailer

I inquired about mounted ones for the tractor off crowleys but they will only do them on pallet forks. If near a coop these may be a good option

Don have one but often thought the convienance of being able to park one near were your feeding would save time and hauling ration from yard all the time.

Jfc will a lot cheaper you have to bucket out of it were as trailer tote bin is gravity so a lot quicker.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Meal bins have been added to TAMSII grant approved expenditure for beef and sheep farmers.