SMACKDOWN LIVE SUPERTHREAD

beakerjoe

Big Es personality was made him shine in WWE. He stands out because of ability to connect with the Audience.

He loses that, he is just like everyone else. If he evolves like he has been on Talking Smack he will be fine.

Let him be himself turned up to 11.

JP Liz V1

Who is WWE's current top face?

beakerjoe

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who is WWE's current top face?

Drew 'I may be bleeding on the brain, but I can fight in a week or so' McIntyre

Loughc

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who is WWE's current top face?

Good question. In typical WWE style they don’t know how to book faces. It seems they want to push the Fiend as the top face. But I don’t see how he will connect with a younger audience.

ThePott

I noticed this more recently with NXT.
There doesn't seem to be any top babyface there at the moment.

The Ayatolla

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Who is WWE's current top face?

McIntyre. A sad state of affairs.

Agent Coulson

They have flip flopped or buried nearly every wrestler so much that it's so hard for them to make a true Babyface or Heel anymore.

They can't even make a proper anti-hero anymore either as the whole roster has been burnt.

beakerjoe

Loughc wrote: »

Good question. In typical WWE style they don’t know how to book faces. It seems they want to push the Fiend as the top face. But I don’t see how he will connect with a younger audience.

My daughter is afraid of him, but enjoyed Roman spearing him.

So hes over as a heel with her, shes 5..... cant see her ever liking him unless he takes out Orton (the biggest bag guy to her since he kicked Flair and HBK.)

WWE works at her level. She gets invested and cant get enough.

However, problem us not enough kids like her watch

Loughc

beakerjoe wrote: »

My daughter is afraid of him, but enjoyed Roman spearing him.

So hes over as a heel with her, shes 5..... cant see her ever liking him unless he takes out Orton (the biggest bag guy to her since he kicked Flair and HBK.)

WWE works at her level. She gets invested and cant get enough.

However, problem us not enough kids like her watch

Sorry what I meant was I don’t see how the Fiend will connect with the younger audience as a face. He is literally designed to give kids the pg audience nightmares.

The Ayatolla

Are Raw & SD now rated as PG?

Especially with RAW underground, drowning people in swamps, throwing petrol bombs and all that carry on?

Loughc

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Are Raw & SD now rated as PG?

Especially with RAW underground, drowning people in swamps, throwing petrol bombs and all that carry on?

They’ve been PG for years now. And still are afaik.

beakerjoe

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Are Raw & SD now rated as PG?

Especially with RAW underground, drowning people in swamps, throwing petrol bombs and all that carry on?

Yep still rated PG despite the slightly edgier product.

They need new viewers, they need younger viewers. Parents just wont let WWE into their homes like they used to.

If WWE or AEW got some form of a Netflix deal it would go along way to opening up their product to a new audience.

beakerjoe

Loughc wrote: »

Sorry what I meant was I don’t see how the Fiend will connect with the younger audience as a face. He is literally designed to give kids the pg audience nightmares.

I agree. I cant see her getting behind him.

It could be done, maybe in the same way Taker turned face with Alexa in the Elizabeth role.

If he is to turn face, he needs to drop the fun house.

That said I just cant warm to the charcter and I think it be a difficult job selling this demonic charcter as a good guy.

Id rather just Bray be himself if hes to turn, no hillblly ****, no fiend.... just the talented guy behind it. Like when Taker becane the american bad ass. .... but without Kid Rock and the motorcycle.

titan18

The Ayatolla wrote: »

McIntyre. A sad state of affairs.

He's the top one. You've Bryan too when he comes back, and then guys like Rey, Domenik, Black, Big E/Kofi/Woods, Keith Lee, Ali etc.

I mean if intention is to have Reigns as heel champion, i'd rather they moved Wyatt to Raw and have him in a program with McIntyre, and then can have McIntyre move towards a heel and Lee take him down at WM. Lee and Orton probably have a few months of a feud going, and then Lee could go after US title.

Could have Big E, if they have those plans for him, or Bryan go after Reigns at WM then.

JP Liz V1

Is Styles and Heyman all good again or is Styles going to Raw on his return?

TimesArrow

So we have Big E v Riddle v Sheamus v Corbin in a #1 contenders match tonight.

With them clearly pushing Riddle( and especially E), would it not make more sense to hold back on having one of them face Reigns at Mania? E is really gathering major baby face momentum ala Kofi from his appearances on Talking Smack and is defintely a Rumble contender in my opinion

sky88

Could give big e the chance against roman and just falls short roman gives it the your not on my level yet big e then keeps going through the heels till the rumble to prove himself

Agent Coulson

That constant fan hum is just way to annoying.

Agent Coulson

I felt Paul E did more to get himself over in that promo than he did Roman.

So much behind the scenes crap that the average fan wouldn’t know about.

Agent Coulson

Snatch Pikey Sheamus is actually great.

beakerjoe

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Snatch Pikey Sheamus is actually great.

Hes becominga very enertaining mid card heel. He was so stale when he returned but hes showing much more confident arrogance.

hynesie08

So you can now pin the illegal opponent and the ref doesn't care?? Good to know......

Agent Coulson

Bayley and Banks are living off a match they had 6 years ago on a Takeover that some think they are Flair Steamboat after that when in fact they are really just midcard talent at best.

beakerjoe

Must say Sasha sold like a boss in that match. Really put over Bazler.

I liked the Bayley turn. I knew it was coming eventually but didnt see it happening tonight. Bayley being extra vicious was a welcome occurance. Now keep Banks off until the Rumble.

The Ayatolla

Have to disagree, I think they're both great to be honest.

Agent Coulson

Ambulance crew are busy tonight that is two now taken to a local medical centre

The Ayatolla

Agent Coulson wrote: »

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beakerjoe

The Ayatolla wrote: »

Have to disagree, I think they're both great to be honest.

Youre both right.

Banks and Bayley have both the chops to be main eventers.

However WWE have spent so much time presenting them as less than that since 2016 that its hard to see them as main eventers.

beakerjoe

Im ok with an Uso v Reigns feud.... if done right.

Though how he is getting a chance after being off TV for ages is beyond me.

Similar for Sheamus and Corbin who both lost on Sunday.

Agent Coulson

WWE ripping off Brandi's Heels thing.