High Noon with George Hook.

Harry Angstrom

foxtrot101 wrote: »

He does come very from humble working class roots. Albert Road, used to known as Jew Town. His mother persuaded the Head of Pres to let her pay them the fees in installments. He would of been from the poorest background in the school.

There were far worse places to come from than Albert Road.

foxtrot101

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

There were far worse places to come from than Albert Road.

Maybe there was, but that doesn't mean he didn't come from a humble background - because he most certainly did.

Harry Angstrom

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Maybe there was, but that doesn't mean he didn't come from a humble background - because he most certainly did.

Everything is relative. Hook would have us think his background was of Angela's Ashes proportions. It most certainly wasn't.

foxtrot101

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Everything is relative. Hook would have us think his background was of Angela's Ashes proportions. It most certainly wasn't.

Look, you were wrong in your original assertion and now you just don't want to admit it. That's up to you, but I'm not going to get into a big circular argument over it.

Vorenus400

foxtrot101 wrote: »

He does come very from humble working class roots. Albert Road, used to known as Jew Town. His mother persuaded the Head of Pres to let her pay them the fees in installments. He would of been from the poorest background in the school.

Hook recently said he was poor compared to his school friends because they bought records and he didnt. His idea of poverty is relative to those he used to associate with. His stories of washing in a metal tub in the living room was very common id imagine. Jesus there was a lot of houses in the west that didnt have the water connected up to the late 80s. They had the electric connected though.

I always take georges stories with a pinch of salt, he has never done the walking to school shoeless uphill both ways:D

foxtrot101

Vorenus400 wrote: »

Hook recently said he was poor compared to his school friends because they bought records and he didnt. His idea of poverty is relative to those he used to associate with. His stories of washing in a metal tub in the living room was very common id imagine. Jesus there was a lot of houses in the west that didnt have the water connected up to the late 80s. They had the electric connected though.

I always take georges stories with a pinch of salt, he has never done the walking to school shoeless uphill both ways:D

His father was a clerk in CIE, he live in a small terrace house in Cork with one bedroom, you can find it on google maps...Albert Road. A fairly typical working class background in Cork City at that time. He has never claimed to have come from Angela's Ashes levels of deprivation. The only difference is his mother pleaded with the Head Brother of a fee paying school to let George go there. That school played rugby...otherwise we would have never of heard of George Hook.

Harry Angstrom

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Look, you were wrong in your original assertion and now you just don't want to admit it. That's up to you, but I'm not going to get into a big circular argument over it.

What??

I couldn't be arsed having an argument over George Hook of all people. Go and get some fresh air for yourself or something.

foxtrot101

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What??

What I said...shrug.

Del.Monte

Discussion about moving to County Leitrim and Hook manages, yet again, to mention that in a previous life he was in the catering trade. He also knows where Drumshanbo is because he used to buy his jam for the catering business from Laird's (Bo Peep) - as their jam was a byword for poor quality and cheap why am I not surprised.

southstar

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

What??

I couldn't be arsed having an argument over George Hook of all people. Go and get some fresh air for yourself or something.

So don't start a bloody argument then!

Harry Angstrom

southstar wrote: »

So don't start a bloody argument then!

I can't recall starting an argument.....

I merely stated that Hook's childhood wasn't half as deprived as he sometimes makes out. Only today did I hear him say that his mother used to bring him up to the Dublin Horse Show every summer. Yup, very deprived......

Del.Monte

I read George Hook's autobiography "Time Added On" a while back - and it's a surprisingly honest warts and all account - but he's not half the man his Dad was as he used to walk from Albert Road (Cork) to his job in CIE (Ceannt Station) every day. Ceannt for those of you not railway enthusiasts is the name for Galway station whereas Kent is the name for Cork's surviving station. From memory the error is repeated several times in the book or else Hook Snr. was made of sturdy stuff and ate girders for breakfast.

foxtrot101

I think he is fairly honest about his background and he doesn't pretend it was anything other than what it was. The only problem is you hear the same stories again...and again...and again.

PeterTheNinth

My god I'm sick of Newstalk and their "equality" agenda... Some wan on now asking why women aren't bricklayers. Did she actually ask any women if they wanted to become bricklayers?? Such absolutely bullsh1t.

Mancomb Seepgood

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

My god I'm sick of Newstalk and their "equality" agenda... Some wan on now asking why women aren't bricklayers. Did she actually ask any women if they wanted to become bricklayers?? Such absolutely bullsh1t.

A look at Newstalk's weekday lineup should make any notion that they are advancing some kind of equality agenda laughable.More likely is that the producers of High Noon know exactly what buttons to press with their audience to generate text messages."PC gone mad" and all that..

PeterTheNinth

Mancomb Seepgood wrote: »

A look at Newstalk's weekday lineup should make any notion that they are advancing some kind of equality agenda laughable.

I think that's what makes Off The Balls position, in particular, so hypocritical.. ANY time that they have an interview with a representative from a women's sport, there is always some sort of SJW angle to the line of questioning. Looking for some angle to get offended by on behalf of women because of "lack of opportunity". Yet they themselves have never had a full presenter who's female.

They should start practicing what they preach before they start ramming their agenda down our throats.

Mancomb Seepgood

Mancomb Seepgood wrote: »

A look at Newstalk's weekday lineup should make any notion that they are advancing some kind of equality agenda laughable.

That's right. One of Pat Kenny's guests pointed out yesterday that Newstalk shouldn't be free from criticisms over gender representation, saying that you have to wait until 4pm in the weekday evening to hear the first female voice (co)/hosting a show.

And even then, Sarah McInerney is the last female host for the rest of the day.

One female presenter during weekdays? This is an "equality agenda"?

constitutionus

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

My god I'm sick of Newstalk and their "equality" agenda... Some wan on now asking why women aren't bricklayers. Did she actually ask any women if they wanted to become bricklayers?? Such absolutely bullsh1t.

you'll find the notion of "choice" never enters the debate on "the oppression of women"

the reason they dont do what the political feminists want is because of men...

...or sommat as daft.

kneemos

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That's right. One of Pat Kenny's guests pointed out yesterday that Newstalk shouldn't be free from criticisms over gender representation, saying that you have to wait until 4pm in the weekday evening to hear the first female voice (co)/hosting a show.

And even then, Sarah McInerney is the last female host for the rest of the day.

One female presenter during weekdays? This is an "equality agenda"?

The women they have are rubbish presenters.

kneemos

kneemos wrote: »

The women they have are rubbish presenters.

And the men?

If Newstalk didn't have a male host until (say) Paul Williams at 4pm, I doubt many people would be silent on it, or saying 'ah the men are all rubbish anyway'.

People would be raving about the unfairness of it all. But even mention the lack of women and it's instantly dismissed as something along the lines of 'sure they don't want these (high profile, well paid) jobs'.

kneemos

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

And the men?

If Newstalk didn't have a male host until (say) Paul Williams at 4pm, I doubt many people would be silent on it, or saying 'ah the men are all rubbish anyway'.

People would be raving about the unfairness of it all. But even mention the lack of women and it's instantly dismissed as something along the lines of 'sure they don't want these (high profile, well paid) jobs'.

Kenny,Coleman,Moncrieff are all excellent,even Hook can do a good interview.

foxtrot101

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That's right. One of Pat Kenny's guests pointed out yesterday that Newstalk shouldn't be free from criticisms over gender representation, saying that you have to wait until 4pm in the weekday evening to hear the first female voice (co)/hosting a show.

And even then, Sarah McInerney is the last female host for the rest of the day.

One female presenter during weekdays? This is an "equality agenda"?

In fairness Newstalk tired Orla Barry, Brenda Power and Norah Casey. None of them got enough listeners to justify them being there. Claire Byrne was poached by RTE, but it was only after she left that the Breakfast Show started getting decent numbers. Colette Fitzpatrick quit after a few months.

Del.Monte

kneemos wrote: »

Kenny,Coleman,Moncrieff are all excellent,even Hook can do a good interview.

Oh, please give us a break!

dxhound2005

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

And the men?

If Newstalk didn't have a male host until (say) Paul Williams at 4pm, I doubt many people would be silent on it, or saying 'ah the men are all rubbish anyway'.

People would be raving about the unfairness of it all. But even mention the lack of women and it's instantly dismissed as something along the lines of 'sure they don't want these (high profile, well paid) jobs'.

And I equally doubt that any more than a few dozen would bother breaking their silence. Why would it matter to millions of people who never even listen to the station?

PeterTheNinth

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

If Newstalk didn't have a male host until (say) Paul Williams at 4pm, I doubt many people would be silent on it, or saying 'ah the men are all rubbish anyway'.

Let's be honest, if they had an all female line up before 4pm, Newstalk would be praised in the media for being "progressive". However, I think they are doing a good enough job try to burn the station to the ground (with the current lineups) without trying an all female lineup.

duploelabs

Can we stick to the thread title?

nuac

kneemos wrote: »

The women they have are rubbish presenters.

Are the male presenters any better?

kneemos

nuac wrote: »

Are the male presenters any better?

The female presenters are rubbish.

PeterTheNinth

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I think they are doing a good enough job try to burn the station to the ground (with the current lineups) without trying an all female lineup.

Why would it be harmful to replace the male presenters with females, and vice versa?

foxtrot101

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Why would it be harmful to replace the male presenters with females, and vice versa?

It's not about gender, it's about JNLR numbers. The JNLR's determine how much you can charge for advertising and ultimately how much money you're going to make. Kenny, Hook, Moncrieff and Yates have track records of getting decent listener figures. So, why would you replace them?

Healy and Tom Dunne didn't get enough listeners so they got move on. Same thing happen to Orla Barry and Brenda Power.