The Future of Paige

jaykhunter

Ah, she only got brought up in 2014 -- it's when you renegotiate the deal on the main roster is where you make your money! (Jericho mentioned this getting paid the same when he first joined as the first time he won the WWF title) It being 2016 she might not have gotten to renegotiate. Either way working 2 years on the main roster isn't enough. But she's highly marketable and very young. I'm sure if WWE drop her they can find a use for her in a few years.

Looper007

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Yeah, when was the last time anyone went HOLY ****, IT'S PAIGE, answers on a postcard, I'll wait, the sad thing is she's now 24, quiet possibly set for life money wise, and she's doing her damn best to literally burn bridges with WWE.. Not really a smart move..

She's been wrestling since 13, I'd say this is her showing two fingers to the industry/maybe a case of burnout and she's using the photo shoots/partying as an outlet to let off some steam.

Her debut on the main roster, when she won the title. I can't remember anything else she's done that's been a standout. I doubt she's set for life at all, I'm sure she's comfortable but I be surprised if she's making main event level money or even in the same ballpark as a Nikki Bella or Charlotte right now.

I wouldn't be surprised if her family have any part of it. Her dad seems very dodgy and not the best influence, thinking having his daughter back at his wrestling shows might mean big business for him. I think she's definitely wanting out and she seems bored to me, maybe she wants to go home and just wrestle on the UK scene do her own thing, party with friends, do photo shoots and wrestle whenever she feels like it. Even if WWE bought her back in a few years time I be shocked if they ever gave her a massive push again.

Looper007

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Yep, I think she's gone a bit nuts with him but she hasn't seemed into it in ages anyway.

Her context might explain a lot of it too. She's from a family of lower lever wrestlers, none of which ever really came close to being on the main WWE roster. For her, to some degree she might have literally viewed winning that women's title on her debut as the endpoint of whatever work she's put in. It's a far higher level presumably earning faaaaar more than her parents ever did and she was 21 at the time.
Kinda hard to see why one would remain motivated in that context.

I just think she's probably at a point even at 24, she just be happy wrestling part time when the moneys good and with her dad's company. Doing fan wrestling cons, I'm sure she make good money on those. Following around Del Rio wherever he goes. Going partying with her friends and doing photoshoots and film roles on the side to earn a little cash. I just don't think wrestling is her number 1 focus right now.

I always felt WWE gave her too much too fast, I'm sure it created the monster they have right now who's acting like a spoiled princess cause she isn't getting her own way.

I think her RF shoot interview and YouShoot DVD will be very interesting. I don't think she be holding back.

DM_7

I find it all worrying, Del Rio managed to get stabbed last week, Paige appears all over the shop and must be on cocaine or something. Drugs and boufriends getting stabbed sound like a scary situation. Reportedly in a bad way with her neck already.

She is so young, I am 31 and I knew NOTHING at 24. Her troubles must be one if the reasons they won't sign under 21s anymore, they need to be more mature before going to a place where celebrity follows and the can have a better chance of dealing with it.

slicus ricus

DM_7 wrote: »

She is so young, I am 31 and I knew NOTHING at 24. Her troubles must be one if the reasons they won't sign under 21s anymore, they need to be more mature before going to a place where celebrity follows and the can have a better chance of dealing with it.

The only other wrestler I can think of that they signed at such a young age was Rene Dupree and that ended disastrously too.

I would imagine with Paige that one of the key motivations of holding on to her is for the Total Divas stuff as much as her future as a wrestler. I have only seen small parts of a few episodes but from what I have seen, she seems to be a fairly central character.

Chain Smoker

Looper007 wrote: »

Going partying with her friends and doing photoshoots and film roles on the side to earn a little cash.

Would she make much money from photoshoots and acting though? She's always seemed like she'd be a terrible actor and she's not really attractive enough to make much as a model either is she?

Monokne

She's not good looking enough to be a model nor talented enough to act nor famous enough to get gigs doing either just based on her name.

sky88

Monokne wrote: »

She's not good looking enough to be a model nor talented enough to act nor famous enough to get gigs doing either just based on her name.

Especally when she wouldnt be able to use the name shes known for.

Ben Gadot

ricero wrote: »

Paige is very annoying and seems like a horrible bitch. Her podcast with stone cold pretty much made my mind up about her.

Overratted by the iwc and hopefully gone from Wwe for good now

She seems very immature, I only fully realised that when watching the podcast. But being immature is no crime at 24, if people think it is then I don't think they've met many of that age range.

The question is whether she'll grow up now in the fallout of all of this and come back better for it. Hopefully she does, as when I think of others in the industry who burned bridges and made the wrong enemies, it would make me fear for her.

Monokne wrote: »

She's not good looking enough to be a model nor talented enough to act nor famous enough to get gigs doing either just based on her name.

Modelling has expanded from the days of your typical supermodel, there's so many niches now that people do well out of. She has a better chance of achieving there than acting that's for sure.

Monokne

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Modelling has expanded from the days of your typical supermodel, there's so many niches now that people do well out of. She has a better chance of achieving there than acting that's for sure.

I know that but she's just a moderately attractive girl and without the WWE brand behind her there's just nothing that would lead me to believe she'll be a successful model. Other than Torrie Wilson and Stacy Keibler, none of the ex-WWE women have made it in modelling or acting. Brittany Fetkin and Ashley Ann Vickers are miles more attractive and they returned to anonymity after they left NXT in the last couple years, for example.

Chain Smoker

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Modelling has expanded from the days of your typical supermodel, there's so many niches now that people do well out of. She has a better chance of achieving there than acting that's for sure.

I definitely wasn't talking about exclusively within the realm of supermodel hot.

She's grand, but within the world of pro wrestling and WWE especially her looks are drastically overstated on account of being different to the standard. Assuming she'd want more than a random girl off the street, no way she'd be worth hiring. Going a bit "6/10 would not bang" I'd say she has a few features that are kind of weird in a distracting way for modelling too.

Blue_Dabadee

No major loss if they decide to let her go. I have neither really enjoyed her run on main roster and her recent actions prove that she can't be the face of womens division.

DEFTLEFTHAND

slicus ricus wrote: »

The only other wrestler I can think of that they signed at such a young age was Rene Dupree and that ended disastrously too.

I would imagine with Paige that one of the key motivations of holding on to her is for the Total Divas stuff as much as her future as a wrestler. I have only seen small parts of a few episodes but from what I have seen, she seems to be a fairly central character.

They signed Teddy Hart at 18. Another disaster.

sky88

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They signed Teddy Hart at 18. Another disaster.

orton must have been around 21 when they signed him as well and he was a disaster at times

Agent Coulson

Sunny was 22/3 when she signed which would be the Diva for Paige not to follow in the footsteps of.

Looper007

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Would she make much money from photoshoots and acting though? She's always seemed like she'd be a terrible actor and she's not really attractive enough to make much as a model either is she?

She could do straight to video films like horror and action films, I'm sure with her fanbase she bring in a audience. She's ok looking nothing stunning but with her look I say she get some work doing photoshoots. I say her money will come through signings with fans and wrestling part time, I don't think she can give up wrestling totally.

I'm sure when the money runs out and Del rio dumps her (I be shocked if that lasts) she come crawling back to WWE.

Looper007

Ben Gadot wrote: »

She seems very immature, I only fully realised that when watching the podcast. But being immature is no crime at 24, if people think it is then I don't think they've met many of that age range.

The question is whether she'll grow up now in the fallout of all of this and come back better for it. Hopefully she does, as when I think of others in the industry who burned bridges and made the wrong enemies, it would make me fear for her.



Modelling has expanded from the days of your typical supermodel, there's so many niches now that people do well out of. She has a better chance of achieving there than acting that's for sure.

The age thing can't always be a excuse though. Sasha is 24, seems like she has a good head on her shoulders and she's even married. You can tell she loves what she's doing. For me Paige is just one of those people with a difficult personality.

I think she be back once Del Rio dumps her and the money runs out and her name value goes down. I'd be very surprised if she's ever given a massive push again though, I'd fully expect her to be in the mid card.

Imnotthehulk

I think some people seem to be overly harsh on the girl. (a horrible bitch?)

As people have said, she's a 24 year old girl, when I was that age I was a moron. I'm 39 and still a moron, and know plenty of other people at 24 and upwards who do silly things.

I would say most of us (all of us?) have next to know idea what's actually going on backstage in WWE, or with her in her personal life.

J. Marston

Is she the youngest women's champion ever? Guessing if she leaves on bad terms, WWE will be looking to pass that record off to someone new.

Kankan14

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37613536/wwe-suspends-paige-for-a-second-time-for-60-days-over-wellness-policy?intc_type=promo&intc_location=sport&intc_campaign=wwesuspendspaige&intc_linkname=newsbeat_fac_article1



The beeb have this article about her, including a statement from her father with his thoughts.

Monokne

Imnotthehulk wrote: »

I think some people seem to be overly harsh on the girl. (a horrible bitch?)

As people have said, she's a 24 year old girl, when I was that age I was a moron. I'm 39 and still a moron, and know plenty of other people at 24 and upwards who do silly things.

I would say most of us (all of us?) have next to know idea what's actually going on backstage in WWE, or with her in her personal life.

This is the most sensible post I've read. Someone, I think called Ricero, said she seemed like a horrible bitch YEESH. Good god, the things people will just randomly spout about total strangers.

The thing about being 24 is you're passionate and enthusiastic about things, and you're totally convinced by the way you're living your life at that moment. When you hit late 20's/early 30's, you mellow. She's hard headed, emotional, neurotic and young, and add to that she's had stardom landed on her at a young age. I'm sure she'd made bad decisions - equally I'm sure WWE has been their usual petty, vindictive selves in the whole thing.

Best for everyone may be if both parties go their own ways and come back together in a few years when her tattoo is lasered off, Del Rio is in the dust and emotions are no longer so high.

J. Marston

WWE responds...

“Saraya-Jade Bevis tested positive for an illegal substance, not a prescription drug,” WWE’s statement to The Post read. “In addition, WWE is providing world-class medical care for her in-ring injury.”

http://nypost.com/2016/10/11/wwe-fires-back-at-banned-beauty-spreading-lies-about-drug-test/

On the nose-candy, I'd say.

PTH2009

J. Marston wrote: »

WWE responds...



On the nose-candy, I'd say.

Yeah the aul sherbet and red lolly lol

Ben Gadot

Imnotthehulk wrote: »

I think some people seem to be overly harsh on the girl. (a horrible bitch?)

As people have said, she's a 24 year old girl, when I was that age I was a moron. I'm 39 and still a moron, and know plenty of other people at 24 and upwards who do silly things.

I would say most of us (all of us?) have next to know idea what's actually going on backstage in WWE, or with her in her personal life.

Yeah, at the very least people are being vindictive about her future and where she'll end up. When you look at where Sunny, Chyna and even Ms. Elizabeth ended up, it makes me uncomfortable speculating about Paige.

Monokne

J. Marston wrote: »

WWE responds...



On the nose-candy, I'd say.

Defo looks like she's been on the party powder a lot of late

gerrybbadd

Man, she looks pretty rough in that photo.

It's a bit of a tragic case really this.

sky88

gerrybbadd wrote: »

Man, she looks pretty rough in that photo.

It's a bit of a tragic case really this.

she looks terrible in that photo got to feel for her.

her relationship seems to be toxic with alberto. he seems to be going through a mid life crisis and the injury cant be helping things.

beakerjoe

She doesnt look like shes in a good place at all. Im sure WWE,l who appear tio be being vindictive themselves, arent helping her situation, more likely making her more stubborn to continue the way she is.

If the stories are true and shes addicted to a class A drug, the reality is that its a slippery slope. Many a young talent have had addictions ruin their careers and lives. She needs help but its ultimately up to her to seek the help and listen to the voices of reason in her life. Hopefully she gets it before it gets further out of control.

ricero

She seems like a car crash awaiting to happen

beakerjoe

ricero wrote: »

She seems like a car crash awaiting to happen

But no decent person wants to see the car crash, She needs help, simple as.

Nody

beakerjoe wrote: »

But no decent person wants to see the car crash, She needs help, simple as.

There is help (for example WWE paid rehab) but only she can decide to get the help; you can lead the horse to the water but you can't make it drink.

jaykhunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

But no decent person wants to see the car crash, She needs help, simple as.

Cup of tea and a hug?

beakerjoe

jaykhunter wrote: »

Cup of tea and a hug?

Id love biscuit too.

Its a pity shes not Irish, her mammy could give her a good doss of religious guilt.

savemejebus

If her injury is as bad as she and her family say, I don't know why on earth she'd want out of her contract at the moment. She can't work and while she is in it WWE pay for what i'd imagine are quite expensive medical bills. But, I'd imagine thinking ahead isn't one of her strongest suits.

Best option for both would be WWE pausing her contract (officially based on the injury)and continue to take care of the medical expenses until she is better. She could then get all her Alberto crap out of her system and have a chance to get well and they can be seen as protecting both her and their investment.

Agent Coulson

Don't wrestlers have to have their own medical insurance as independent contractors?

But I guess if it's an in ring injury the WWE would cover it in certain cases.

Bounty Hunter

Nody wrote: »

There is help (for example WWE paid rehab) but only she can decide to get the help; you can lead the horse to the water but you can't make it drink.

She's on the horse now too is it?





I often find in these situations people create their own narrative as obviously it isn't fully known exactly what happened but it really does not sound good for her. Suspended not once but twice in quick succession, the second of which she pushed back on only for the company to shoot back and call her out. Her fellah has left the company on not so great terms and she tried to get out of her contract but backed down / failed to do so. Add to that all the stabbing madness surrounding ADR (who is 15 years older than her) at the moment and things aren't exactly great for Paige before you even consider how she had been being used prior to all this

savemejebus

Saw this on Wreddit and would hope that it is all 100% bull.

One of my pieces of advice that celebrities would be good to heed is to pay your dealer. Bad things happen when you don’t. It doesn’t matter who you are, eventually you are going to have to pay. Oh, sure if you are this foreign born A-list celebrity in her roped corner of the entertainment world you can sleep with your dealer for a while in order not to pay, but that only lasts a short time. Eventually they find someone else who can’t pay and wants to trade and you are replaced. The next thing you know you agree to do a little courier run using your status and you promise yourself you will just do it one time. That one time becomes two or three because your habit keeps growing. Then, the unthinkable. You lose your status and can’t make the courier runs but still have your habit. One drug dealer cuts you off so you move to the next and the next. At this point, you owe several dealers but haven’t told your celebrity boyfriend. When they come calling, he is caught in the crossfire. You go into hiding. The thing is you can’t hide for long because your addiction is so bad. My guess is you will end up dead. Either of an overdose or from crossing the wrong people. WWE Saraya Jade Bevis (aka Paige) (boyfriend Alberto Del Rio stabbed).

http://i.imgur.com/6Zx4UCN.jpg

beakerjoe

More bad news for The Knight family :

https://twitter.com/RealsarayaK/status/786167035252342784

News like this can only add to Paiges off-the-rails mindset

Nody

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

She's on the horse now too is it?

Well ADR is a stud so I guess that makes her on the horse as well now

Chain Smoker

sky88 wrote: »

she looks terrible in that photo got to feel for her.

her relationship seems to be toxic with alberto. he seems to be going through a mid life crisis and the injury cant be helping things.

Is he though? He seems pretty much exactly like what I always thought he'd be like (big ego, fancies himself to be a bit of a playboy, etc)

sky88

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Is he though? He seems pretty much exactly like what I always thought he'd be like (big ego, fancies himself to be a bit of a playboy, etc)

well im putting the fact he just spilt up with this wife, getting with a much younger woman etc although i think your right he does seem that way in general.

montyrebel

I cant be the only thinking she will be another one of those young wrestlers that die before their time due to her addiction to drugs, legal or illegal

Agent Coulson

Have the WWE every been so quick to go the a prominent newspaper like the NY Post with a statement that contradicts what the wrestler has been saying?

Chain Smoker

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Have the WWE every been so quick to go the a prominent newspaper like the NY Post with a statement that contradicts what the wrestler has been saying?

Pretty eager to nip it in the bud surely?

Ignoring whether her neck injury is legit or not, I can imagine they're seeing it as a threat to sue more than anything else. It seems pretty much guaranteed the whole thing is going to get litigious at this stage so her throwing out false statements about the nature of her failed tests would need to be dealt with quickly from a PR perspective.

DM_7

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Have the WWE every been so quick to go the a prominent newspaper like the NY Post with a statement that contradicts what the wrestler has been saying?

Remember the CM Punk ass video after his claims about the infection?

They put that together fast.

Lithium93_

Shot fired by Del Rio..

https://twitter.com/VivaDelRio/status/787394308131487744?lang=en

leggo

Did I miss something? Cus what I saw was them saying she was receiving first class medical care.

Also, interesting that ADR seems to be negating the agreement not to talk **** that him and WWE reportedly had. Meltzer better be waiting by the batphone because I have a feeling 'sources' are gonna confirm the full details of Paige's violation very soon.

sky88

What kind of doctor would text that information.

I've got to think this is a fake text del rio sent to himself

Lithium93_

sky88 wrote: »

What kind of doctor would text that information.

I've got to think this is a fake text del rio sent to himself

Or Alberto himself decided to leak it to prove some kinda point..

leggo

Next on the Paige and Del Rio show: Alberto pretends to take a call with Dixie Carter while meeting with Vince McMahon...then his phone rings.