What would Ireland be like with just Irish People in it?

Andy From Sligo

Yes its another one of those Andy Controversial Threads again - First off I am not being racist and I hope the thread wont descend into a load of racist drivel. - as always if you hate any of my views or threads on Boards you are welcome to not feel you have to join in and answer and are welcome to go search hundreds of more posts on boards to reply to

had some idle time on my hands today and thought (as you do) I wonder what the world be like today if everyone who was born in their own country stayed in their own country and didnt/werent allowed to emigrate to another country, what kind of a world would it be like today? - would each country manage to survive with the citizens it had?

what for example would we do if a lot of our very well trained Doctors in hospitals, a lot of them who are of Indian/asian decent and a lot of Filipino Nurses would those vacancies be abled to be filled by Irish people?

What about other things like over population infrastructure and unemployment - would there be houses available for everyone to live in Ireland and would everyone have a job? - Could Ireland survive without foreigners and immigrants do you reckon with just the amount of Irish people who were born here or does Ireland need/rely on foreign people ?

Whats your view on it?

As I say its only up for discussion and to make you sit down and think on what (Ireland or any country come to think of it) would be like if years ago there was a strong policy of countries not allowing people to reside and work in other countries.

Pale,freckly and at high risk of skin cancer.

hot buttered scones

Roughly 1985?

Story Bud?

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

had some idle time on my hands today

You seem to have a lot of that!

Cosmo K

I'd say it would be a lot like....Leitrim

Harry Palmr

Inbred

OldMrBrennan83

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Owryan

How far back do we have to go to get a pure Irish population? Well since St Patrick was probably Welsh he would never have come here so that's Catholicism out the window.

Then we need to take the Vikings, Norman's and English out. We would be been spared all that 800 years of oppression. But we would also lose the reason to hate England and enjoying when they fcuk up. Also without the Brits who would we have to blame for the way things are.

The_Valeyard

Cosmo K wrote: »

I'd say it would be a lot like....Leitrim

Often driven through Leitrim, seems like a lovely place.

Yester

hot buttered scones wrote: »

Roughly 1985?

No. There was a black guy here in 1985. I saw him.

Your Face

Australia.

El_Duderino 09

Andy From Sligo wrote:

Yes its another one of those Andy Controversial Threads again - First off I am not being racist...

Phew. That's alright then...

hairyslug

A lot less controversial but much sexier

El_Duderino 09

As a filthy emigrant to the UK, I don't like the OP's idea at all.

It would be less well travelled, have less new ideas, more rear of foreigners and their foreign ways. It would be a sh1thole. We criticise people and areas who don't tend to travel outside their place if birth as boring and insular. It sounds dreadful.

OldMrBrennan83

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El_Duderino 09

Patww79 wrote:

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Not special as such. Just less ignorant.

ahnowbrowncow

hairyslug wrote: »

A lot less controversial but much sexier

I would have said the opposite to that.

Your Face

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Not special as such. Just less ignorant.

Ahahahaaahhaaaaa

The Backwards Man

There wouldn't be an Ireland or an Irish people.

There would be an island with elks on it, but they wouldn't be called elks.

KingBrian2

I'd say we have just as many hostilities as we do we other races today. Instead of racism towards Chinese, Blacks & Indians which we don't have too much of we would have prejudice towards people of Cavan, Meath & Roscommon. Ireland had a clan culture during the Celtic period so in everyday life Irish people would be like what we see at the GAA.










So this would be Ireland all the time. Plenty of evidence at all the GAA matches.

OldMrBrennan83

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Andy From Sligo

Cosmo K wrote: »

I'd say it would be a lot like....Leitrim

Lovely Leitrim

ThisRegard

Do you know what this thread needs? Bigger hyperlinks.

Andy From Sligo

Patww79 wrote: »

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Can you get fat on bacon & Cabbage? .....

Your Face

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Can you get fat on bacon & Cabbage? .....

Good man Andy, keep her going.

El_Duderino 09

Patww79 wrote:

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OP, I've found you're answer, easily wound up and a bit more aggressive.

Andy From Sligo

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

As a filthy emigrant to the UK, I don't like the OP's idea at all.

It would be less well travelled, have less new ideas, more rear of foreigners and their foreign ways. It would be a sh1thole. We criticise people and areas who don't tend to travel outside their place if birth as boring and insular. It sounds dreadful.

Think of the Tourism element though. Look at how quaint / quirky and laid back Ireland was in the 80's and early 90's though - be great to get back to that. Too much 'European' now, morphed into what a lot of other european cities and towns look like rather than what Ireland used to look and feel like

A Little Pony

Ireland for the Irish. Racism has been around for a long time in Ireland.

tomwaterford

"Andy wrote:

k like rather than what Ireland used to look and feel like

A backwards shtehole??




One of best friends isn't even irish....and is alot sounder than most people I know

riffmongous

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Think of the Tourism element though. Look at how quaint / quirky and laid back Ireland was in the 80's and early 90's though - be great to get back to that. Too much 'European' now, morphed into what a lot of other european cities and towns look like rather than what Ireland used to look and feel like

Can you give some examples? Most of the towns I knew back in the 90s were dumps and are just as **** nowadays and could do with a lot more euorpeanising imo.

riffmongous

A Little Pony wrote: »

Ireland for the Irish. Racism has been around for a long time in Ireland.

Brits out?

Stigura

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Too much 'European' now, morphed into what a lot of other european cities and towns look like rather than what Ireland used to look and feel like

Not Leitrim.

DEFTLEFTHAND

KingBrian2 wrote: »

I'd say we have just as many hostilities as we do we other races today. Instead of racism towards Chinese, Blacks & Indians which we don't have too much of we would have prejudice towards people of Cavan, Meath & Roscommon. Ireland had a clan culture during the Celtic period so in everyday life Irish people would be like what we see at the GAA.










So this would be Ireland all the time. Plenty of evidence at all the GAA matches.

A bit of rough housing? Are you serious? It happens in all contact sports, especially with men.

In regards to the tribal aspect it's nowhere near as hostile as you make it out to be. It's more slagging than anything else. Rival supporters can sit with each other in the stands and trouble is extremely rare. It's not like there's Dublin and Kerry hooligan factions beating the hell out of each other before and after a game.

miezekatze

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Think of the Tourism element though. Look at how quaint / quirky and laid back Ireland was in the 80's and early 90's though - be great to get back to that. Too much 'European' now, morphed into what a lot of other european cities and towns look like rather than what Ireland used to look and feel like

I think you are romanticising the past there and being very unrealistic. Besides that, do you really think that Ireland could get by just on tourism alone? Where would everybody be working if all the multinational companies leave (since they wouldn't be able to find a lot of people with language skills anymore)? How would you get all non-irish people to leave the country anyway?

KingBrian2

I don't very much like the idea of Irish people having the need to leave and go somewhere else, all fine with them seeing the world and all that it is when they couldn't be bothered to be here because it has a lack of excitement for stupid reasons like were in the EU so we have no sovereignty. Those are bollox reasons to be fair. We have all the power we ever had throughout our entire history as a free people yet some people still chose to leave due to some distant dream Continent full of riches.

Billy86

The food would still be as sh*te as it used to be.

Widdershins

Would people travel abroad for holidays and would we have foreign tourists ?
If so I think it would be fine as long as we aren't isolated from the world .
People are essentially the same everywhere .

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Well, it's be a lot harder to get a decent curry, that's for sure.

KingBrian2 wrote: »

I don't very much like the idea of Irish people having the need to leave and go somewhere else, all fine with them seeing the world and all that it is when they couldn't be bothered to be here because it has a lack of excitement for stupid reasons like were in the EU so we have no sovereignty. Those are bollox reasons to be fair. We have all the power we ever had throughout our entire history as a free people yet some people still chose to leave due to some distant dream Continent full of riches.

"A lack of excitement" is a stupid reason for wanting to live somewhere else...??

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

"A lack of excitement" is a stupid reason for wanting to live somewhere else...??

Not if you don't enjoy the drink culture here. Foreigners pretty much gave Ireland something other than going to the pub and getting wasted as being the highpoint of the night.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

Not if you don't enjoy the drink culture here. Foreigners pretty much gave Ireland something other than going to the pub and getting wasted as being the highpoint of the night.

My point entirely. Going to the pub and getting drunk gets boring after a while (not to mention expensive). But suggesting that I should return to ireland because it's less exciting..?! Weird...

One thing I do like about living out of Ireland, there's a hell of a mot mroe variety of social life.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

My point entirely. Going to the pub and getting drunk gets boring after a while (not to mention expensive). But suggesting that I should return to ireland because it's less exciting..?! Weird...

One thing I do like about living out of Ireland, there's a hell of a mot mroe variety of social life.

I haven't lived full time in ireland for close to 13 years. Oh, I have a house here and I still pay a variety of taxes, but I mostly live in China. I've travelled throughout Eastern Europe and Asia (haven't done the America's yet), and I've found a small number of Irish everywhere I go. Some simply travelling and others fully settled.

On the other hand, whenever I return to my hometown and walk around, I can see the same people from school, college etc. Many people prefer to stay in their hometown or within Ireland.

Personally, I can't live here full time. I prefer much larger population centers. The variety of food, women, bars, cafes, etc. Simply having more options. Even if I end up just sitting at home playing computer games, I know I can go out at 4 am and find a steak.

Dublin is the only place in Ireland likely to have similiar options, but it's just too small for me nowdays. Xi'an has almost 9 million people during summer. Love it. Loved Tokyo even more, but its just too damn alien in many ways. (and expensive for the better lifestyle)

Ireland without foreigners? Insular, ignorant, probably still religious, and stuck with anger towards the English. I personally think foreigners in Ireland gave Ireland the chance to move on and leave the bitterness of the past behind.

Widdershins

No to europe style towns imo-my foreign friends always comment on how unique and individual our buildings and shop fronts are, unlike generic highstreets elsewhere . most people appreciate the character . if people want flash identikit towns, just go where they are.

Dirty Dingus McGee

We'd all be like the O'Donovan brothers.

Andy From Sligo

Billy86 wrote: »

The food would still be as sh*te as it used to be.

Everything used to taste of onions. Egg Mayonnaise salad ... tasted of onions ..... Apple Pie and custard, used to taste of onions .... Ice cream, used to taste of onions - those were the days

Dirty Dingus McGee

Deleted User wrote: »

I haven't lived full time in ireland for close to 13 years. Oh, I have a house here and I still pay a variety of taxes, but I mostly live in China. I've travelled throughout Eastern Europe and Asia (haven't done the America's yet), and I've found a small number of Irish everywhere I go. Some simply travelling and others fully settled.

On the other hand, whenever I return to my hometown and walk around, I can see the same people from school, college etc. Many people prefer to stay in their hometown or within Ireland.

Personally, I can't live here full time. I prefer much larger population centers. The variety of food, women, bars, cafes, etc. Simply having more options. Even if I end up just sitting at home playing computer games, I know I can go out at 4 am and find a steak.

Dublin is the only place in Ireland likely to have similiar options, but it's just too small for me nowdays. Xi'an has almost 9 million people during summer. Love it. Loved Tokyo even more, but its just too damn alien in many ways. (and expensive for the better lifestyle)

Ireland without foreigners? Insular, ignorant, probably still religious, and stuck with anger towards the English. I personally think foreigners in Ireland gave Ireland the chance to move on and leave the bitterness of the past behind.

All those things abated long before we had the influx of immigrants in the last 15 years or so.

Armchair Andy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I haven't lived full time in ireland for close to 13 years. Oh, I have a house here and I still pay a variety of taxes, but I mostly live in China. I've travelled throughout Eastern Europe and Asia (haven't done the America's yet), and I've found a small number of Irish everywhere I go. Some simply travelling and others fully settled.

On the other hand, whenever I return to my hometown and walk around, I can see the same people from school, college etc. Many people prefer to stay in their hometown or within Ireland.

Personally, I can't live here full time. I prefer much larger population centers. The variety of food, women, bars, cafes, etc. Simply having more options. Even if I end up just sitting at home playing computer games, I know I can go out at 4 am and find a steak.

Dublin is the only place in Ireland likely to have similiar options, but it's just too small for me nowdays. Xi'an has almost 9 million people during summer. Love it. Loved Tokyo even more, but its just too damn alien in many ways. (and expensive for the better lifestyle)

Ireland without foreigners? Insular, ignorant, probably still religious, and stuck with anger towards the English. I personally think foreigners in Ireland gave Ireland the chance to move on and leave the bitterness of the past behind.

Would you credit any of Ireland's progress to the Irish themselves?

JustTheOne

Considering there is approx 400,000 foreign workers here doing service work etc you would have to think we would have no unemployment.

That is if the Irish people took those jobs. Wonder why we need so many foreign workers in the first place when we have so many Irish unemployed:)

Andy From Sligo

Widdershins wrote: »

Would people travel abroad for holidays and would we have foreign tourists ?
If so I think it would be fine as long as we aren't isolated from the world .
People are essentially the same everywhere .

ah yeah people could still visit for holidays, just not stay or reside .... or maybe the rules bent a little bit by letting people stay who can offer a profession to ireland to a slot that cannot be fulfilled satisfactorily by an Irish citizen

Andy From Sligo

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Well, it's be a lot harder to get a decent curry, that's for sure....

Why would an Irish person not be able to cook a curry as good if not better than an Indian?

FalconGirl

KingBrian2 wrote: »

I don't very much like the idea of Irish people having the need to leave and go somewhere else, all fine with them seeing the world and all that it is when they couldn't be bothered to be here because it has a lack of excitement for stupid reasons like were in the EU so we have no sovereignty. Those are bollox reasons to be fair. We have all the power we ever had throughout our entire history as a free people yet some people still chose to leave due to some distant dream Continent full of riches.

At in fairness were a small windswept rain laden rock out in the Atlantic and it can get claustrophobic at times. It's nice to get away for some. Wouldn't begrudge anyone grabbing some decent weather whilst working abroad.

Widdershins

I'm sure competent Irish chefs cook foreign cuisine as well as chefs who come from the country where the recipe originated from .

Interesting thought excercise anyway

BTW my other half not to mention most of my friends is foreign so Ireland without non Irish people would not suit me but still , interesting !