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Irish martial arts body opposes recognition of MMA

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    #242
    [Deleted User]
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    daRobot wrote: »
    ............

    Now what I would like to know, is specifically what aspect of MMA do they find so abhorrent, considering the sport that they condemn so strongly is comprised of the very sports supported by their own organisation.......

    Striking an opponent to the head while they are on the ground semi conscious I believe.


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    #243
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,427 ✭✭✭tritium


    Noodin wrote: »
    Anyone else get nervous about all these jacked up MMA lads that are on the go these days? You could bump into someone in the pub and next thing you know some roid head with anger issues is jumping on your head thinking he's Conor McGregor.

    The world was so peaceful before mma....

    I must havw imagined those weekends after closing time with lads battering each other


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    #244
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,427 ✭✭✭tritium


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    Apparently the phrases "consenting adults" and "bodily autonomy" are unknown to some in this thread :rolleyes:

    Their body their choice :)


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    #245
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    McGruber wrote: »
    Calm down Napoleon Dynamite

    Tea nearly exited via nose. :)


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    #246
    jimmy blevins
    Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    We should go back to the Gaelic martial arts of sin kicking and stick fighting and none of this fangled ground hugging that is mma.


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    #247
    DrPhilG
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    Self serving money grabbers trying to defend their patch.


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    #248
    DrPhilG
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    mansize wrote: »
    You cannot strike an opponent on the ground in boxing

    And what?

    Why is punching another person in the face while standing up sport, but punching another person in the face while on the ground is barbaric?

    It all boils back down to ignorance. You assume that because the guy is on the ground he is helpless and defenceless. Simply not accurate.

    If that fighter on the ground is not defending those punches then the fight ends. While in boxing when the guy is not defending the punches he will be given a few seconds to get his wits about him and let back in for more abuse.


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    #249
    Thargor
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    Mentioning it in the same sentence as dog fighting in their statement was seriously insulting, sounds like theres something personal there between certain people.


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    #250
    darced
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    #251
    DrPhilG
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    smash wrote: »
    No I didn't, someone else did. Keep up at the back there.

    Someone else pointed out that the UFC was the biggest promoter in the sport and had not had any deaths.

    You were the one who insisted that there had been. Now you have realised that you were wrong and you're back tracking.


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    #252
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    So you were in Ireland on the morning of the 13th of December, a flying visit or home for a while?

    Another one slow on the uptake I see.

    Yes I had the misfortune of being home on the day in question and saw the awful spectacle.


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    #253
    dresden8
    Registered Users Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭dresden8


    MMA is about getting somebody on the ground and pounding the head offa them.

    You could film it in any chipper at two o'clock in the morning.


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    #254
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    Another one slow on the uptake I see.

    Yes I had the misfortune of being home on the day in question and saw the awful spectacle.


    Back for Christmas then I take it? Had you nothing better to be doing than hanging out with your brother and his oh-so-awful friend?


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    #255
    Axwell
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,461 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    dresden8 wrote: »
    MMA is about getting somebody on the ground and pounding the head offa them.

    You could film it in any chipper at two o'clock in the morning.

    And clearly Boxing is about punching a guy repeatedly till he is beaten so badly that he isn't able to get back on his feet before someone counts to 10


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    #256
    Aongus Von Bismarck
    Registered Users Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Aongus Von Bismarck


    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Back for Christmas then I take it? Had you nothing better to be doing than hanging out with your brother and his oh-so-awful friend?

    Not really sure what this has to do with the thread at hand?

    I realise MMA fans generally don't put much stock in education, and you're lacking in comprehension skills as a result, but have a quick read of my post again there, good lad. I was watching a Michael Palin Travel show and my brother and his gormless buffons of friends imposed watching the fight on me.


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    #257
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    Not really sure what this has to do with the thread at hand?

    I realise MMA fans generally don't put much stock in education, and you're lacking in comprehension skills as a result, but have a quick read of my post again there, good lad. I was watching a Michael Palin Travel show and my brother and his gormless buffons of friends imposed watching the fight on me.

    So you're back in Ireland on a break from your high flying career in finance in Frankfurt and watching TV reruns of a Sunday afternoon is how you pass the time?

    Seems, er, odd.

    How long were you home for?


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    #258
    mansize
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Insted he can get held up by the ropes and hit repeatedly as long as he doesn't fall over

    Thats completely incorrect

    1. You cant use the ropes
    2. You must defend yourself
    3. The ref has a duty of care to the boxer


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    #259
    Elliott S
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    darced wrote: »
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    darced wrote: »
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    So you were in Ireland on the morning of the 13th of December, a flying visit or home for a while?
    darced wrote: »
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Back for Christmas then I take it? Had you nothing better to be doing than hanging out with your brother and his oh-so-awful friend?
    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    So you're back in Ireland on a break from your high flying career in finance in Frankfurt and watching TV reruns of a Sunday afternoon is how you pass the time?

    Seems, er, odd.

    How long were you home for?

    Excellent work, fellows. :D:D:D


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    #260
    DrPhilG
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    Elliott S wrote: »
    Excellent work, fellows. :D:D:D

    Not bad for a bunch of angry young uneducated knuckle dragging buffoons.


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    #261
    Maguined
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    mansize wrote: »
    Thats completely incorrect

    1. You cant use the ropes
    2. You must defend yourself
    3. The ref has a duty of care to the boxer

    All of which also applies to MMA. You can't hold onto the cage, you have to intelligently defend yourself and if you do not the referee will stop the fight.


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    #262
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Maguined wrote: »
    All of which also applies to MMA. You can't hold onto the cage, you have to intelligently defend yourself and if you do not the referee will stop the fight.

    I was reffering to the poster that said your could be punched repeatedly in boxing as long as the ropes held you up- FALSE


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    #263
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Citrus Sauna wrote: »
    It's clearly a sport, I think some people just find the ruthlessness of it unsettling so they backwards rationalise why it shouldn't be recognised as a sport. If you don't like it that's fine, but live and let live and allow others to enjoy this sport.

    but why go to people that don't like and ask them to recognise it rather than dealing direct with the Irish sports council.


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    #264
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    but why go to people that don't like and ask them to recognise it rather than dealing direct with the Irish sports council.

    Because the sports council told them that rather than having their own body they should approach the IMAC and ask to become members.


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    #265
    smash
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    Because the sports council told them that rather than having their own body they should approach the IMAC and ask to become members.
    And they said no, so now they should just go and create their own body.


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    #266
    Subcomandante Marcos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    smash wrote: »
    And they said no, so now they should just go and create their own body.

    They've been trying for years. It's not that simple, the sports council basically dictate the process, this was one stage of said process.


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    #267
    _oveless_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 135 ✭✭_oveless_


    m&a is trash it's just 2 guys pretendting to do boxing for a minute then they grab onto each other and fall on the floor then roll around on the floor for 45 mins a good streetfighter would kill any of them


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    #268
    smash
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    _oveless_ wrote: »
    m&a is trash it's just 2 guys pretendting to do boxing for a minute then they grab onto each other and fall on the floor then roll around on the floor for 45 mins a good streetfighter would kill any of them
    Like Ryu or Ken?


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    #269
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    m&a is trash it's just 2 guys pretendting to do boxing for a minute then they grab onto each other and fall on the floor then roll around on the floor for 45 mins a good streetfighter would kill any of them

    Ironically enough, the closest anyone has come to dying in the ring in MMA was when two street fighters, Kimbo Slice and Dada 5000, fought and Dada's heart nearly exploded during the bout because of terrible cardio.


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    #270
    That_Guy
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    smash wrote: »
    Like Ryu or Ken?

    HADOKEN!!!


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    #271
    DrPhilG
    Registered Users Posts: 12,201 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    _oveless_ wrote: »
    a good streetfighter would kill any of them

    Why don't they then? McGregor is making millions. Surely a good street fighter wouldn't say no to that cash?


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