Irish martial arts body opposes recognition of MMA

The flying mouse

Hope this thread can be left here...

Documents obtained by RTÉ News show strong opposition to proposals to formally recognise, regulate, and fund Mixed Martial Arts fighting.

The Irish Martial Arts Commission, which has been asked to consider taking MMA under its umbrella, wrote to the International Olympic Committee in April of this year saying that MMA, in its current form, is not a sport, and like dog fighting did not deserve to be legitimised.

It said it agreed with reports describing MMA as "pornographic, sadistic and voyeuristic to its core".

http://www.rte.ie/news/2016/0808/807658-mma/

Well folks what do you think ,Is it a sport or should it be banned,

I don't think it should be banned, maybe more regulated, if its banned sure it will just thrive underground.

tomwaterford

Why don't they set up their own body/organisation??

mansize

Why is this in after hours? Let's stick every thread in AH and close the rest!!!!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

I've always felt that traditional Martial Arts is as much about spiritual and personal development as it is about physical competition, whereas MMA is purely about physcial comabat, so in that respect I can understand their stance not to accept it.

That said, they have no right to say it should be banned.

mansize

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I've always felt that traditional Martial Arts is as much about spiritual and personal development as it is about physical competition, whereas MMA is purely about physcial comabat, so in that respect I can understand their stance not to accept it.

That said, they have no right to say it should be banned.

They are entitled to voice their opinion and concerns tbf- especially as they were asked to regulate it

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

mansize wrote: »

They are entitled to voice their opinion and concerns tbf- especially as they were asked to regulate it

Totally - as I said, and they had every right to decline the assignmnet.

But banned because they say so..?

mansize

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Totally - as I said, and they had every right to decline the assignmnet.

But banned because they say so..?

If they believe it should be, and they give salient reasons why it should, why shouldn't they be allowed proffer that opinion?

Wibbs

mansize wrote: »

Why is this in after hours?!

Because anywhere else it would likely die on the vine or have two posters and a stray cat.

tomwaterford wrote:

Why don't they set up their own body/organisation??

Exactly. Though I suspect they're trying to legitimise their sport by attaching it to existing organisations of long standing.

mansize

Wibbs wrote: »

Because anywhere else it would likely die on the vine or have two posters and a stray cat.

Exactly. Though I suspect they're trying to legitimise their sport by attaching it to existing organisations of long standing.

Like when they changed the name from cage fighting to MMA

http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/Did-LA-reporter-coin-the-term-Mixed-Martial-Arts

Wibbs

TBH for me anyway, I have no objection if two men(or women) choose to bate seven shades of excreta out of each other and others choose to pay to see it. Trying to polish it into something more "noble", mainly so you can get the mainstream big bucks sponsorship in the door and I think "eh no".

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

That said, they have no right to say it should be banned.

mansize wrote: »

They are entitled to voice their opinion and concerns tbf- especially as they were asked to regulate it

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Totally - as I said, and they had every right to decline the assignmnet.

As is clear above you specifically denied they had a right to voice their opinion.

Your Face

The clue is in the name - Martial.
There's a chance of unpleasantness.

TSMGUY

If this means I see less of that arrogant **** Conor Mcdickhead, it can only be a good thing. MMA really bastardizes all of the core principles of martial arts like discipline, self-defense and mutual respect. MMA has become a garish blood-sport for morons. Don't blame them.

Maguined

TSMGUY wrote: »

If this means I see less of that arrogant **** Conor Mcdickhead, it can only be a good thing. MMA really bastardizes all of the core principles of martial arts like discipline, self-defense and mutual respect. MMA has become a garish blood-sport for morons. Don't blame them.

How so? Most of the people that I have met that have trained in MMA have shown the above attributes. In fact the mutual respect aspect I have experienced far more from the MMA community than anywhere else I have personally experienced.

smash

If the Irish Martial Arts Commission wants to draw a line between itself and MMA then the rest of us should probably do the same, no matter where you stand on the subject. MMA is marmite so best to just leave it be.

Aongus Von Bismarck

Well done to this organisation for dishing out the truth. This UFC nonsense is nothing more than base violence which is slickly marketed to angry young men.

Dave0301

TSMGUY wrote: »

If this means I see less of that arrogant **** Conor Mcdickhead, it can only be a good thing. MMA really bastardizes all of the core principles of martial arts like discipline, self-defense and mutual respect. MMA has become a garish blood-sport for morons. Don't blame them.

Professional MMA fighters lack discipline? Reaching the pinnacle of a sport would beg to differ.

Do you feel the same about boxing?

zuutroy

Maguined wrote: »

How so? Most of the people that I have met that have trained in MMA have shown the above attributes. In fact the mutual respect aspect I have experienced far more from the MMA community than anywhere else I have personally experienced.

Shhh....facts and actual experience of the subject have no place in this discussion.

Ush1

I'll just say there is a lot of fruitcakes involved in traditional martial arts, a lot of death touch type nonsense which MMA exposes in a very explicit manner.

TSMGUY

Maguined wrote: »

How so? Most of the people that I have met that have trained in MMA have shown the above attributes. In fact the mutual respect aspect I have experienced far more from the MMA community than anywhere else I have personally experienced.

Everyone I personally know who trains in MMA swaggers around threatening people and bragging about how much they can **** you up with just their elbow whilst pounding their tapout t-shirt covered chest.....

mansize

zuutroy wrote: »

Shhh....facts and actual experience of the subject have no place in this discussion.

Eh that's anecdotal evidence not facts

daRobot

TSMGUY wrote: »

Everyone I personally know who trains in MMA swaggers around threatening people and bragging about how much they can **** you up with just their elbow whilst pounding their tapout t-shirt covered chest.....

That sounds like a creation of your own mind to be honest.

zuutroy

mansize wrote: »

Eh that's anecdotal evidence not facts

Yeah just warning him not to bring facts into it.

TSMGUY

daRobot wrote: »

That sounds like a creation of your own mind to be honest.

Or the culmination of literally every experience I've had with MMA sorts. I used to box for recreation and I had no issues with those lads. Every MMA guy I've ever met has been a brain-dead scumbag.

Cuddlesworth

TSMGUY wrote: »

Or the culmination of literally every experience I've had with MMA sorts. I used to box for recreation and I had no issues with those lads. Every MMA guy I've ever met has been a brain-dead scumbag.

Been in and out of MMA in Ireland for a decade. Never encountered a single overtly aggressive asshole in all that time.

TSMGUY

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Been in and out of MMA in Ireland for a decade. Never encountered a single overtly aggressive asshole in all that time.

Well, that's good for you. I've had a different experience.

Sofiztikated

TSMGUY wrote: »

Well, that's good for you. I've had a different experience.

If everyone you meet is an asshole, then maybe it's not everyone that has the problem.

smash

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Been in and out of MMA in Ireland for a decade. Never encountered a single overtly aggressive asshole in all that time.

I don't believe that for 1 second. Not because it's MMA, but because of human nature. Even in Soccer or Rugby or literally any sport at all, if you've been involved in it for over a decade you'll encounter a plethora overly aggressive assholes.

riffmongous

Sounds to me like the IMAC is feeling pretty threatened by the huge increase in popularity of MMA of Ireland

Maguined

TSMGUY wrote: »

Everyone I personally know who trains in MMA swaggers around threatening people and bragging about how much they can **** you up with just their elbow whilst pounding their tapout t-shirt covered chest.....

Most of the people I have seen wear Tapout have never trained in MMA and were thugs before MMA became popular and remained thugs but now with Tapout tshirts.

It was the same before MMA became popular. Most of the people who were bragging they could knock you out by one karate kick to the head never actually trained in Karate but just watched a few movies.

I bet if you went to an MMA gym and trained with them your opinion would change.

smash

riffmongous wrote: »

Sounds to me like the IMAC is feeling pretty threatened by the huge increase in popularity of MMA of Ireland

Nonsense. They just don't want an association with it.