Off Topic Thread 3.0

dregin

Ah, you're right. People are just spoilering like mad without tags. NEVERMIND!

DGRulz

I'm not saying this season of GoT hasnt felt rushed at times but I think its important to remember that stories in different places have never happened in parallel and the whole thing

north of the wall

happens over the course of a few days and part of the reason theres less filler this season compared to previous seasons is that the writers are basically working of cliff notes of a story the actual writer cant seem to finish. When this whole thing started GRRM had agreed to have The Winds of Winter finished and a large enough outline of A Dream of Spring done. D&D signed up to adapt a series of books not the important plot points of a series of books. From where I stand they're done a pretty decent job a few weird bits of dialog aside.

Besides ...

did we really want to end the Genry's still rowing joke only to start a Genry's still running one :P

Teferi

Erik Shin wrote: »

It's a closed shop, to suggest there is any transparency is stupid in the extreme.

Full athlete test history here.

The UFC isn't clean but it's making an honest effort. The entire fight game is murky in any case but MMA is no more dirty than any of the others. I think the UFC should be commended for its efforts with USADA.

DGRulz

Bazzo wrote: »

The idea that the media are any worse to him than he deserves is bollox to be honest. They jump on everything he says because he's the ****ing president of the United States. EVERY president ever has been subject to exactly the same scrutiny.

While I agree with a lot of this, he's such an easy target to hit but when they make up stuff and present the story in their own light all they end up doing is proving his point and make him look better to him supporters

DGRulz

DGRulz wrote: »

While I agree with a lot of this, he's such an easy target to hit but when they make up stuff and present the story in their own light all they end up doing is proving his point and make him look better to him supporters

What have the press made up though? (Like it's not exactly needed) and sadly heavy spin is a given in America, outside PBS all channels are privately owned and hire according to the company's viewpoint

DGRulz

Most recently the whole Twitter rant JK Rowling went on about him not shaking hands with a kid in a wheel chair.

irishbucsfan

DGRulz wrote: »

Most recently the whole Twitter rant JK Rowling went on about him not shaking hands with a kid in a wheel chair.

JK Rowling isn't the press though. He's not attacking JK Rowling, he's attacking mainstream media for reporting on what he's doing.

Bazzo

DGRulz wrote: »

Most recently the whole Twitter rant JK Rowling went on about him not shaking hands with a kid in a wheel chair.

I hadn't heard about this but I've had a quick Google there and flicking through several pages of the search it doesn't look like any major publications even covered the story except to say Rowling was mistaken. The (Irish) independent and metro.co.uk are the only ones I recognise that actually lead with it and both are absolute rags.

He spent the majority of an hour bull****ting on about how dishonest the media was on their coverage of his response to Charlottesville and then read an altered version of his response to prove it, it's completely surreal.

MSNBC's response "Well clearly there is nothing worth listening to in there" and CNN's "That was a total eclipse of the facts" are as measured and fair (and even more so) as he deserves.

thomond2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOqKnInZovI

DGRulz

DGRulz wrote: »

Most recently the whole Twitter rant JK Rowling went on about him not shaking hands with a kid in a wheel chair.

What?

JK Rowling isn't the media. She's a woman with a Twitter account (admittedly with a very large reach).

I find it amazing that America basically couldn't handle an Obama presidency so they immediately elected his polar opposite:

Black : White
Constitutional Scholar : Purchased Education
Middle Class upbringing : Born into wealth
Family Man : Serial adulterer, three marriages
Class : Gold all the things
Dignity : Blameless
Championed Healthcare : Doesn't know what Healthcare is

It's really like a low budget comedy where two people trade places but I can't see this one having a happy ending where everyone learns something.

The media will keep reporting because it's profitable for them to do so. Sometimes they go overboard (Rachel Maddow) but I think it's worth it to keep saying just how unacceptable this is. The real litmus test is if America turns their back on this hate rhetoric over the next two election cycles. If they aren't capable of that then the country has real problems moving forward as it's incredibly divided over there now.

It's just a total **** show. I hope it ends up just being a few years entertainment but lets not forget the US has enough power to destroy the world 100 times over and this asshat sits at the top. It's only funny because nothing really serious has happened yet.

Buer

Deleted User wrote: »

It's really like a low budget comedy where two people trade places but I can't see this one having a happy ending where everyone learns something.

Buer

Buer wrote: »

That had Jamie Lee Curtis tits in it. Probably wasn't that cheap

CatFromHue

Deleted User wrote: »

I find it amazing that America basically couldn't handle an Obama presidency so they immediately elected his polar opposite:

Black : White
Constitutional Scholar : Purchased Education
Middle Class upbringing : Born into wealth
Family Man : Serial adulterer, three marriages
Class : Gold all the things
Dignity : Blameless
Championed Healthcare : Doesn't know what Healthcare is

It's really like a low budget comedy where two people trade places but I can't see this one having a happy ending where everyone learns something.

The media will keep reporting because it's profitable for them to do so. Sometimes they go overboard (Rachel Maddow) but I think it's worth it to keep saying just how unacceptable this is. The real litmus test is if America turns their back on this hate rhetoric over the next two election cycles. If they aren't capable of that then the country has real problems moving forward as it's incredibly divided over there now.

It's just a total **** show. I hope it ends up just being a few years entertainment but lets not forget the US has enough power to destroy the world 100 times over and this asshat sits at the top. It's only funny because nothing really serious has happened yet.

When it comes to Trump being elected one of the first starting points has to be his competition and the Global Financial Collapse.

The GFC is one of the main reasons why FF and FG have polled so poorly since the start of the state. I'm sure Labour are probably in this mix too but I don't know for sure.

The Donald and many in Irish politics campaigned on corruption in the main parties and how the people have had it too bad for so long now. Neither group looked at the facts and the people where happy to also ignore the facts.

stephen_n

The pictures of Trump from last night are every bit as telling as what he said, which is basically regurgitation of the same story he tells himself, to keep his ego intact. The picture of him standing there cupping his ear, finger in the air, like Hulk Hogan on an 80's wrestling show. Preaching to the already converted and basking in their adulation, that is all that matters to him, having his ego stroked by large crowds, that's all his presidency is.

mfceiling

Kailani Dirty Teenager wrote: »

That had Jamie Lee Curtis tits in it. Probably wasn't that cheap

On a completely unrelated note, I must remember to watch that movie again.

mfceiling

mfceiling wrote: »

On a completely unrelated note, I must remember to watch that movie again.

I prefer True Lies personally. Fair enough the beams are on dim but you get a better sense of the chassis

thomond2006

The sunset is beautiful right now!

irishbucsfan

https://twitter.com/DianneG/status/900186626277748736

molloyjh

I met an English mate at the women's World Cup last week. After a few drinks he apologised for Brexit. As I said at the time I can understand how it happened. As daft as it sounds there is real logic to the "we've had enough of so-called experts" line. After all it was listening to the so-called experts that led us to the global recession. How can you not sympathise with people who got royally shafted by the system and then decided they wouldn't just go back to voting for the same thing?

The problem is that's as far as people's thought processes took them. Instead of identifying what they wanted to vote for, what they wanted to make happen, they just knew what they wanted to vote against. You don't get to a destination by knowing where it isn't. You get there by knowing where "there" is. Trump said "I'm not them and I'll fix it" and that was enough for people. Brexit gave people a target for their blame and a notion that it could be fixed. Again that was enough. That neither actually showed any real plan for fixing anything and yet enough people didn't care about that is the real story.

Trump is a freak accident of history. He's a nothing really. Figuring out how to address the serious disenfranchisement that has and still is occurring in Western society is of far greater concern.

Dave_The_Sheep

A Belgian and I were chatting to an few English lads on voice comms for an MMO I play a few nights ago. Brexit came up somehow. One was convinced that the UK would get sweetheart deals with the EU and the rest of the world, simply because the German's don't want to lose the English car market, and there were also secret deals with Germany - because he has a mate who is German.

Voting for Brexit was right and they'd get the best deal and they hold all the cards and it would be great for the UK because that's what they'd voted for and you wouldn't vote for something that was bad for your country would you? The simple fact they've voted for it was proof that it was the best thing to do.

I get people don't like admitting when they may have made a mistake, but the logic behind the denial flabbergasted me.

irishbucsfan

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

A Belgian and I were chatting to an few English lads on voice comms for an MMO I play a few nights ago. Brexit came up somehow. One was convinced that the UK would get sweetheart deals with the EU and the rest of the world, simply because the German's don't want to lose the English car market, and there were also secret deals with Germany - because he has a mate who is German.

Voting for Brexit was right and they'd get the best deal and they hold all the cards and it would be great for the UK because that's what they'd voted for and you wouldn't vote for something that was bad for your country would you? The simple fact they've voted for it was proof that it was the best thing to do.

I get people don't like admitting when they may have made a mistake, but the logic behind the denial flabbergasted me.

I can only assume the gentleman you were conversing with is an imbecile.

There's actually a world where brexit could work out decently for everyone. But that world and the world where Theresa May and Phillip Hammond are overseeing Britain during the process are polar opposites. As it stands it will damage Britain and it will greatly damage Ireland and give center-right eurocrats a massive boost in their goal of building this ordo-liberal superstate that they're after.

Dave_The_Sheep

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I can only assume the gentleman you were conversing with is an imbecile.

He's a nice guy, but I did question what was going on behind the scenes alright. I disengaged at that point, given I knew any argument to the contrary was going nowhere. Belgian lad tried for a while, but it was pointless.

Funnily enough, I know quite a few otherwise quite intelligent English who voted to leave, some as protest against the status quo, some out of dislike for 'Brussels'. They hate when Brexit comes up in conversation because they've realised they've cocked up and don't like being reminded of it.

irishbucsfan

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

He's a nice guy, but I did question what was going on behind the scenes alright. I disengaged at that point, given I knew any argument to the contrary was going nowhere. Belgian lad tried for a while, but it was pointless.

Funnily enough, I know quite a few otherwise quite intelligent English who voted to leave, some as protest against the status quo, some out of dislike for 'Brussels'. They hate when Brexit comes up in conversation because they've realised they've cocked up and don't like being reminded of it.

They haven't really cocked up so much as the people who are trying breathe life into the charred remains of the Conservative government have no idea what brexit means and no idea what their mandate is for.

They should never have triggered article 50 without agreeing the framework of brexit. They didn't need a 2nd referendum, they could have run the equivalent of our constitutional assembly over 18 months across the regions and found consensus.

Imagine starting a negotiation without knowing what youre negotiating for. Britain are the national equivalent of people who wait to get to the front of the queue before deciding what they want to order.

Rigor Mortis

Its always a mistake thinking that intelligence is a key determinant of voting behaviour on this kind of thing.

I have quite a few clients in the UK. Very bright people. I've already had to backslide my way out conversations where i basically accused all brexiteers of being morons.

Teferi

A very large part of the British population is terminally thick tbh. They consistently vote against their own interests. Living in England has been eye opening.

dregin

Another example of cute hooers trying to make a quick buck off students: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/house-share/artane/64-gracefield-avenue-artane-dublin-960654/

6 people in 1 room sharing 1 bathroom? I'd prefer to live in a hostel.

Stheno

dregin wrote: »

Another example of cute hooers trying to make a quick buck off students: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/house-share/artane/64-gracefield-avenue-artane-dublin-960654/

6 people in 1 room sharing 1 bathroom? I'd prefer to live in a hostel.

11 people in total over a grand a week in rent!

dregin

dregin wrote: »

Another example of cute hooers trying to make a quick buck off students: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/house-share/artane/64-gracefield-avenue-artane-dublin-960654/

6 people in 1 room sharing 1 bathroom? I'd prefer to live in a hostel.

That's appalling. Can you imagine living in that close proximity with 4 other strangers. I'm sure due to the lack of accommodation there'll be plenty of takers too.

awec

If one of them brings someone home for the ride you'll be close enough to smell the action. :eek: :pac: