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!! LC Chemistry '16 HL - Before and after ...

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  • Registered Users Posts: 14 lc16_


    Hows everyone set for Chemistry?

    Knowing its my last exam is clearly not helping me focus for the evening in any way shape or form :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 alaandocs


    lc16_ wrote: »
    Hows everyone set for Chemistry?

    Knowing its my last exam is clearly not helping me focus for the evening in any way shape or form :p

    Should be good to go, experiments are where I'm focusing atm


  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭juniorcert


    lc16_ wrote: »
    Hows everyone set for Chemistry?

    Knowing its my last exam is clearly not helping me focus for the evening in any way shape or form :p
    Same, I'm finding it very hard to concentrate or to care very much anymore when I know freedom is so close


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    The fact that it's in the afternoon leaves me thinking I can put off cramming until tomorrow. Bad idea I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 lc16_


    Seaaan wrote: »
    The fact that it's in the afternoon leaves me thinking I can put off cramming until tomorrow. Bad idea I think

    ^^^Exactly what my mind is playing at currently


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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    They better not spring surprises on us for this either; physics had them! Iron tablets and Ethene/Ethyne please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭WorthlessPeon


    Seaaan wrote: »
    They better not spring surprises on us for this either; physics had them! Iron tablets and Ethene/Ethyne please.

    Ideal experiments right there, throw in the relative atomic mass of a volatile liquid one and we're away!


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭emersyn


    If ethene/ethyne comes up I'll cry with joy


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 louisoc


    Anyone else given phenylmethanol the slip? I know it's irresponsible to avoid things, but I just can't hack that experiment - it didn't work when we did it in class, and the minutiae of the procedure are unbearable. Feeling adventurous completely ignoring it, but I'm confident with my titrations and the other miscellaneous experiments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭LordHypnos


    louisoc wrote: »
    Anyone else given phenylmethanol the slip? I know it's irresponsible to avoid things, but I just can't hack that experiment - it didn't work when we did it in class, and the minutiae of the procedure are unbearable. Feeling adventurous completely ignoring it, but I'm confident with my titrations and the other miscellaneous experiments.

    absolutely, willing to take that chance


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  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    LordHypnos wrote: »
    absolutely, willing to take that chance

    it's quite embarrassing but after 2 years of chem I have no idea what you two are talking about. I'd better sort that out. perhaps tomorrow morning


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭LordHypnos


    it's quite embarrassing but after 2 years of chem I have no idea what you two are talking about. I'd better sort that out. perhaps tomorrow morning

    it's the mandatory experiment they added for last year's exam.
    here's a full list of updates to the course;
    http://www.gilleducation.ie/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/060/LSMS_Chemistry_Changes_to_the_Experimental_Work.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    LordHypnos wrote: »
    it's the mandatory experiment they added for last year's exam.
    here's a full list of updates to the course;
    http://www.gilleducation.ie/AcuCustom/Sitename/DAM/060/LSMS_Chemistry_Changes_to_the_Experimental_Work.pdf

    it actually rings a bell now. thanks for the link. I remember aqueous layer and organic layer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 louisoc


    it actually rings a bell now. thanks for the link. I remember aqueous layer and organic layer.

    aqueous and organic layer are a new part of the clove oil experiment, not the phenylmethanol. I'd say THAT one is definitely worth knowing, given that I think it's the only thing on the entire course right now that's never been examined!


  • Registered Users Posts: 116 ✭✭hurler97


    louisoc wrote:
    Anyone else given phenylmethanol the slip? I know it's irresponsible to avoid things, but I just can't hack that experiment - it didn't work when we did it in class, and the minutiae of the procedure are unbearable. Feeling adventurous completely ignoring it, but I'm confident with my titrations and the other miscellaneous experiments.
    We referred to it as the benzoic acid experiment so maybe other people who don't recognise phenylmethanol will know what the experiment is now


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Misty_01


    Can any one explain the 2015 Q11 B to me , the part where it asks if the reaction is exo or endothermic ???? Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 946 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    Does anyone have a list of the experiments that come up in question 1 and 2? I know 1 is vol analysis and 2 is organic but I'm just not sure which ones they can potentially ask. Also is it alright to leave out electrochemistry? Just have a look over it maybe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 louisoc


    Misty_01 wrote: »
    Can any one explain the 2015 Q11 B to me , the part where it asks if the reaction is exo or endothermic ???? Thanks.

    From the graph you can see that the Kc rises exponentially as temperature increases, that means that as Kc increases, the left side becomes less concentrated and the right side becomes more concentrated. (because Kc is right side over left side, if denominator is smaller and the numerator is bigger the number is bigger). Temperature increase always drives the endothermic reaction (to counteract stress; Le Chatelier's) which means the forward reaction - the dissociation of gas A - is endothermic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 36 Bangdiggy


    Misty_01 wrote: »
    Can any one explain the 2015 Q11 B to me , the part where it asks if the reaction is exo or endothermic ???? Thanks.[/quote
    From the graph you can see that Kc increases as temperature increases. And you should know that an increase in temperature always favours the endothermic reaction. Now if you look at the equation you see that if the top is exothermic and you ↑temp then the the bottom(backward) reaction is endothermic BUT... it says the dissociation of A, therefore if bottom(reverse) is endothermic then that means your making A and not dissociating it, So then that means the top(forward) reaction will be Endothermic

    Oh dear, I don't think I would understand myself, so I hope you understand


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 lc16_


    Q1) Iron Tablets exp
    Q2) Ethene/Ethyne
    Q3) Rates of reaction exp
    Q4) Short qs heavily on defintions
    Q5) Trends in periodic table & bonding
    Q6) Thermochemistry equations & Fuels, hydrocarbon definitions
    Q7) Long water q
    ...Q11) A- Gas laws & calculations
    B- Equilibrium defs & calc
    That would be an absolute beauty of a paper :D


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  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭LordHypnos


    lc16_ wrote: »
    Q1) Iron Tablets exp
    Q2) Ethene/Ethyne
    Q3) Rates of reaction exp
    Q4) Short qs heavily on defintions
    Q5) Trends in periodic table & bonding
    Q6) Thermochemistry equations & Fuels, hydrocarbon definitions
    Q7) Long water q
    ...Q11) A- Gas laws & calculations
    B- Equilibrium defs & calc
    That would be an absolute beauty of a paper :D

    I'll put a word out ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    Acids and bases please. And a not rotten Q8; Esters I'm looking at you.

    Perhaps radiation because Chernobyl anniversary!?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Ufc2016


    I hope it's not a paper like last years!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 alaandocs


    That was an awful question 2 they put I thought. Apart from that it's was generally ok, going for an A1 but if say it will be close


  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Seaaan


    Q1 was meh. Q4 lovely, Q4 lovely, 5 lovely, 6 lovely, 11 lovely and 10 wasn't bad either.

    Equilibrium constant answer, anyone? I got 78.4


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 216 ✭✭BrownTrout


    Seaaan wrote:
    Equilibrium constant answer, anyone? I got 78.4

    Lol 39something000


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭medhopeful16


    Seaaan wrote: »
    Q1 was meh. Q4 lovely, Q4 lovely, 5 lovely, 6 lovely, 11 lovely and 10 wasn't bad either.

    Equilibrium constant answer, anyone? I got 78.4

    Think I got that too :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭medhopeful16


    Q2 and Q5 were not great but the rest of it was amazing, couldn't have asked fir a better paper. No electrochemistry and straightforward organic questions


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    Q3 was my jam! Anyone get 10cm3 per minute?
    I went in hoping for a b3 but I think I got a b1! Time will tell


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  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭medhopeful16


    Q3 was my jam! Anyone get 10cm3 per minute?
    I went in hoping for a b3 but I think I got a b1! Time will tell
    I got 8.9 I think but close enough!


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