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!! Maths HL paper 1 2016 - Before and After

  • 08-06-2016 2:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    does anyone have any predictions for maths paper 1 this year? i dont know how to begin studying, and i want to start with something that there is a good chance will come up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭Curb Your Enthusiasm


    123zxc wrote: »
    does anyone have any predictions for maths paper 1 this year? i dont know how to begin studying, and i want to start with something that there is a good chance will come up

    Predictions are pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Ovomos


    Don't think you can predict maths questions.. But there are certain topics that are examined in p1 each year. Calculus,complex numbers, algebra, patterns and sequence, functions and numbers I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    As a minimum I would make sure to be solid on the few things that can be learned off....that way if they get asked you'll get 5% (ish) of the paper. No learned proof was asked on Paper 1 last year so the likelihood is that something is due??

    1. De Moivre's Theorem by Induction
    2. Proof by Contradiction (Root 2 is Not rational)
    3. Constructions of Root 2 and Root 3 (and the tricks they could ask....construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1)
    4. Sum of a Finite Series by Induction
    5. Sum of an Infinite Series by Limits
    6. Derive the Amortisation formula (expressing as Geometric Series)

    Also (not so much learned off...but def. the headings...and the start)
    1. Differentiation by 1st Principles
    2. De Moivres to Prove Special Trig Identities...

    In all likelihood no more than 1 if any of the above will come up on the day...but simple marks if you know them and difficult to bluff on the day if you don't.

    Absolutely guessing I would say...
    Some type of Binomial question would be due up...
    Complex Number question had no Polar Form aspect last year so it would be likely...
    They will ask either NO Financial Maths...or a really hard one (as last year's was unbelievably easy)...
    Inverse and Composite functions, Limits and Continuity of functions...this stuff has hardly been examined at all
    A proof by induction (possibly as one of the proofs above)...none asked last year...
    Contexts and Application questions with e's and logs...area and volume question with max/min aspect?

    Sorry I'm just wildly guessing now...to get a really good grade you'll need to have the work done by now...but looking over the papers and identifying things that you don't know (and practising them) is the best bet the next few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭aunt aggie


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    As a minimum I would make sure to be solid on the few things that can be learned off....

    Great advice from Skippy if and only if, you're studying HIGHER level.

    I don't think the OP specified which level they're studying which makes it a bit more difficult to give advice.

    If the OP does study Ordinary Level, I'd say he/she had a minor heart attack looking at that list :D:D

    For OL, do questions from the papers!! and if you have done very little up to now there are some revision tips below. These are just the basics and not an exhaustive list of what you should be revising.
    • Algebra, you need to know how to factorise and solve quadratics and how to solve simultaneous equations as these topics can also appear in Functions and Differentiation Qs
    • Differentiation, you need to be able to find first and second derivatives and use this information to find min and max values/ turning points
    • Sequences, you need to know how to find the general rule (nth term rule) of a sequence and also find the Sum of the first however many terms. Most student do well continuing the pattern but struggle with formulas.
    • Functions, know how to find and plot points, and use your graph to estimate values including roots. Simultaneous equations and solving can also pop up here.
    • Complex Numbers, you need to know how to calculate with complex numbers, plot on argand diagram and find the modulus
    • Applied Arithmetic is almost impossible to predict, but definitely be sure you know how to calculate percentages.. you'd assume that was a given at LC but no, its not!

    This is just the bare bones for LCOL Paper 1. It's the basics and they appear often on papers. It's not a prediction, or a complete list of what you should study. Best advice you'll ever get is write something for every question and the examiner will do their best to find you marks. Leave it blank and you're getting nothing!

    If really confused, attempt the same question twice. BUT never cross out or tippex over work.

    Bring a calculator and construction set to both exams and know which pages of the log tables are relevant. You should also know how to use the formulas in the log tables. At this stage, if you need extra help revising any particular topic, youtube has some great tutorial videos geared towards mostly gcse students but many are also relevant to LCOL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 CreepyOnion


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    3. Constructions of Root 2 and Root 3 (and the tricks they could ask....construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1)

    How do you construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    How do you construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1?

    So they could ask you to do the root of 2 which everyone will have learned but as an extension to that they might add...hence draw root 8....well root 8 is 2root2...so twice as far as root 2...

    The construction of root 2 begins with a line of one unit length....so if you measure this with the compass and swing it on the root 2 line you will have split the root 2 line into a piece that is 1 and a piece that is root 2 minus 1.

    Both these questions have appeared in Mocks in recent years so whilst not state issued this is higher level and they will expect you to take what you know and be able to adapt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    As a minimum I would make sure to be solid on the few things that can be learned off....that way if they get asked you'll get 5% (ish) of the paper. No learned proof was asked on Paper 1 last year so the likelihood is that something is due??

    1. De Moivre's Theorem by Induction
    2. Proof by Contradiction (Root 2 is Not rational)
    3. Constructions of Root 2 and Root 3 (and the tricks they could ask....construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1)
    4. Sum of a Finite Series by Induction
    5. Sum of an Infinite Series by Limits
    6. Derive the Amortisation formula (expressing as Geometric Series)

    Also (not so much learned off...but def. the headings...and the start)
    1. Differentiation by 1st Principles
    2. De Moivres to Prove Special Trig Identities...

    In all likelihood no more than 1 if any of the above will come up on the day...but simple marks if you know them and difficult to bluff on the day if you don't.

    Absolutely guessing I would say...
    Some type of Binomial question would be due up...
    Complex Number question had no Polar Form aspect last year so it would be likely...
    They will ask either NO Financial Maths...or a really hard one (as last year's was unbelievably easy)...
    Inverse and Composite functions, Limits and Continuity of functions...this stuff has hardly been examined at all
    A proof by induction (possibly as one of the proofs above)...none asked last year...
    Contexts and Application questions with e's and logs...area and volume question with max/min aspect?

    Sorry I'm just wildly guessing now...to get a really good grade you'll need to have the work done by now...but looking over the papers and identifying things that you don't know (and practising them) is the best bet the next few days.

    Please tell my binomial is paper 2 and also what is the continuity of functions!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    A binomial expansion is Paper 1 where, for example they could ask you for the 4th term of the expansion of (2x+4)^5....A bernouilli trial is Paper 2, also called a Binomial trial...one is linked to Algebra and multiplying expressions (P1), the other to probability (P2).

    A continuous function will have no break in it....some functions have no y values for certain x values and therefore on a sketch of the graph there is a break....for example if the denominator of a function was x-2....there could be no value for x=2 as this would give 0....and dividing by 0 is undefined.

    Here is a nice little worksheet that will help.

    http://www.projectmaths.ie/documents/PDF/ActivitiesOnLimitsAndContinuity.pdf?strand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    A binomial expansion is Paper 1 where, for example they could ask you for the 4th term of the expansion of (2x+4)^5....A bernouilli trial is Paper 2, also called a Binomial trial...one is linked to Algebra and multiplying expressions (P1), the other to probability (P2).

    A continuous function will have no break in it....some functions have no y values for certain x values and therefore on a sketch of the graph there is a break....for example if the denominator of a function was x-2....there could be no value for x=2 as this would give 0....and dividing by 0 is undefined.

    Here is a nice little worksheet that will help.

    http://www.projectmaths.ie/documents/PDF/ActivitiesOnLimitsAndContinuity.pdf?strand

    So something like tan, something with asymptotes then?
    I actually never thought of binomial expansion as paper 1. Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    Exactly the graph of the Tan function is not continuous...asymptotes same idea...

    Yeah the confusion is that Binomial was added to some books late and only included in supplements with inferential stats and other paper 2 stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    Exactly the graph of the Tan function is not continuous...asymptotes same idea...

    Yeah the confusion is that Binomial was added to some books late and only included in supplements with inferential stats and other paper 2 stuff.

    Inferential stats is definitely paper 2 though yeah? I just notices this today http://www.mathsdojo.ie/pdf/EP_LCH_P1_2015_Sample.pdf The maths tutor have this down in the Paper 1 section? That's not right is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    No that's def Paper 2 stuff...well worth doing them questions at the weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 123zxc


    Thank you, I will go over all these before Friday! Do you have any links to show me how to prove the amortisation formula by induction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭lostatsea


    123zxc wrote: »
    Thank you, I will go over all these before Friday! Do you have any links to show me how to prove the amortisation formula by induction?

    I wonder if forums help or cause unnecessary panic - I think the latter. The chances of asking you to prove the amortisation formula are miniscule and then to do it by induction are non-existent. Please stop this unnecessary worry. Everybody will be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    lostatsea wrote: »
    I wonder if forums help or cause unnecessary panic - I think the latter. The chances of asking you to prove the amortisation formula are miniscule and then to do it by induction are non-existent. Please stop this unnecessary worry. Everybody will be fine.

    If it wasn't for the forum I'd probably be panicking more!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    123zxc wrote: »
    Thank you, I will go over all these before Friday! Do you have any links to show me how to prove the amortisation formula by induction?

    That one doesn't have to be shown through induction (just De Moivre and the Sum of Finite Series). Amortisation is derived using a Geometric Series. If you want a look at that PM me and I'll send on last minute revision sheet with it and a few other bits and pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭ConorD21


    How Much are the Theorems usually worth at OL? If you didnt learn them could you still pass maths easily?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    ConorD21 wrote: »
    How Much are the Theorems usually worth at OL? If you didnt learn them could you still pass maths easily?

    Theorems don't have to be proven at Ordinary Level so you don't have to learn any off...just understand each one. For example you need to know that the 3 angles of a triangle sum to 180....or that opposite sides and angles of a parallelogram are equal...but you don't need to be able to prove that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    How do you construct root 8 or root 2 minus 1?

    Use the wheel of theodorus, it'll cover you for any root up to root 18 I before it comes full circle (no biggy if it does though it just gets messy)

    The important thing to remember is to go off 1 unit at right angles each time.



    If you don't want to go all the way around to root 8, just reduce
    root 8 = root 4 X root 2 = 2xroot2

    So go to root 2 line and double it with compass.

    - - - - - - - - - -- -- -

    for root 2 minus 1 ... get your root 2 line (from the 1,1,root2 right angled triangle).. then mark of the length 1 on the compass from one side and mark it on the root2 line . The remainder is root 2 minus 1

    - - - - - - - - - - - - -

    This method is a little bit neater but not as 'pretty'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 123zxc


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    That one doesn't have to be shown through induction (just De Moivre and the Sum of Finite Series). Amortisation is derived using a Geometric Series. If you want a look at that PM me and I'll send on last minute revision sheet with it and a few other bits and pieces.

    Yea I don't know how to PM you, I'm new to board, could u tell me how haha


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    123zxc wrote: »
    Yea I don't know how to PM you, I'm new to board, could u tell me how haha

    Sent you a PM, you should see a red (1) beside your name in the top right. Click up there and you can view private messages. Best of luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    so happy that I wrote off maths, now if I do well it's just a pleasant surprise and if I f*** up it's already expected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 randomlad727


    How do you prove the sum of an infinite series by limits??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    How do you prove the sum of an infinite series by limits??

    Very short proof, start with the sum of an infinite series and get the limit of it as n tends towards infinity.

    Here is is straight from the horses mouth...

    http://www.projectmaths.ie/documents/LCActivities/SumToInfinityOfAGeometricSequence.ppsx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Soolander


    Does it matter which method you use to construct root 2 or root 3?
    In my book its an incredibly simple way of just using pythagoras' theorem and drawing a right angled triangle but someone else posted a video of a big circle?
    Also does anyone know how I could construct root 2 - 1 in that way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    Soolander wrote: »
    Does it matter which method you use to construct root 2 or root 3?
    In my book its an incredibly simple way of just using pythagoras' theorem and drawing a right angled triangle but someone else posted a video of a big circle?
    Also does anyone know how I could construct root 2 - 1 in that way?

    No the syllabus isn't specific about the method. Don't get too caught up on root 2 -1...I was kind of giving an example of how they could surprise people and ask things in a different way. If you have constructed root 2 using pythagoras then both the other sides are 1....so root 2 -1 is the length of your hypotenuse minus the length of one of your sides. So get the length of your side with your compass and swing that onto the hypotenuse, cutting a piece of 1....the piece left is root minus 1....again just an example of how they might twist something that people will know well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭emersyn


    @Everyone: Before you go to sleep tonight make sure you have two calculators and your geometry set in your bag so you're not stressing at the last minute - for the junior cert mock I managed to forget my geometry set and 2.5 years later I'm still having nightmares about it
    Make sure your calculators are in radians too, and put a reminder on your phone for after the exam to set them to degrees so you're ready for Monday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 swagmire


    What formulas have I too learn that arnt in log tables


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    Mmm maybe stuff like:

    Polar Form
    Headings for 1st Principles
    Average Value of a Function
    Headings for Induction

    ...in fairness there is a list of things you should know off (difference of cubes, forming a quadratic, nature of roots...even stuff like percentage error) but not really formula as such.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭malnurtured


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    Mmm maybe stuff like:

    Polar Form
    Headings for 1st Principles
    Average Value of a Function
    Headings for Induction

    ...in fairness there is a list of things you should know off (difference of cubes, forming a quadratic, nature of roots...even stuff like percentage error) but not really formula as such.

    Is there an exhaustive list of non-tables formulae anywhere? I don't want to get caught. Thing is, most people just say learn x y z formula and I get the feeling there's a list somewhere that says all the things you need off by heart (including nature of roots, forming quadratics, difference of cubes, etc.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 284 ✭✭skippy1977


    Is there an exhaustive list of non-tables formulae anywhere? I don't want to get caught. Thing is, most people just say learn x y z formula and I get the feeling there's a list somewhere that says all the things you need off by heart (including nature of roots, forming quadratics, difference of cubes, etc.)

    Not really I'd say only what teachers or students themselves make out as study notes. I'll PM you a couple of bits I use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 947 ✭✭✭daraghwal


    skippy1977 wrote: »
    Not really I'd say only what teachers or students themselves make out as study notes. I'll PM you a couple of bits I use.

    Would you mind PMing me with that too please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭TooMuchWork


    daraghwal wrote: »
    Would you mind PMing me with that too please?

    If you can send it on to me to save Skippy the hassle that'd be great :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 swagmire


    If you can send it on to me to save Skippy the hassle that'd be great :P

    Me too please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    I got a b1 in paper 1 in the mocks. I hope to god that i can bring that up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭malnurtured


    I got a b1 in paper 1 in the mocks. I hope to god that i can bring that up.

    Examcraft? I got a B in that as well. Thought it was a bit easy, did the DEB one and got a C1... hope the real thing is more examcraft-like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 388 ✭✭LFC CONNAUGHTON


    All I'm hoping for is to avoid financial maths in this paper, never truly got my head around why certain formulae can and can't be used at certain times


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    All I'm hoping for is to avoid financial maths in this paper, never truly got my head around why certain formulae can and can't be used at certain times

    I wouldn't mind a depreciation question to be honest. Or the question that asks you to turn a yearly interest rate in to a monthly one. i hope there is no ammortisation formula. i don't have a clue about that. ill take a look of it now though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    I wouldn't mind a depreciation question to be honest. Or the question that asks you to turn a yearly interest rate in to a monthly one. i hope there is no ammortisation formula. i don't have a clue about that. ill take a look of it now though

    Amortisation is mostly used when dealing with loans and paying stuff back over time. It can be used for other questions too but that's what you use it for mostly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭MomijiHime


    I wouldn't mind a depreciation question to be honest. Or the question that asks you to turn a yearly interest rate in to a monthly one. i hope there is no ammortisation formula. i don't have a clue about that. ill take a look of it now though

    What's depreciation? ****.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 182 ✭✭DownOneTourist


    MomijiHime wrote: »
    What's depreciation? ****.

    `F=P(1-i)^t
    F is the future value of something (it's lower than the present value for a car or something like that)
    P is the present value
    i is the rate of depreciation and t is the time(or compounds)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭legocrazy505


    `F=P(1-i)^t
    F is the future value of something (it's lower than the present value for a car or something like that)
    P is the present value
    i is the rate of depreciation and t is the time(or compounds)

    Or in other words it's the opposite of adding interest, you are taking interest off the value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    I KNOW NOTHING


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭MomijiHime


    `F=P(1-i)^t
    F is the future value of something (it's lower than the present value for a car or something like that)
    P is the present value
    i is the rate of depreciation and t is the time(or compounds)
    Ohhhhhh ok thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    Beautiful paper 1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72 ✭✭Soolander


    Cant believe there was no financial maths


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Jane98


    Beautiful paper 1.

    What came up?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 855 ✭✭✭TSMGUY


    This paper restored my faith in God (well not really, but if there is a god, he works at the SEC!!!)

    F***ing beautiful paper.

    Jane98: PRACTICALLY NOTHING. THE QUESTIONS WERE ALMOST INTUITIVELY SIMPLE. THE BEE QUESTION COULD BE DONE BY A 10 YEAR OLD.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    That was easier than I anticipated.

    Trouble now is, paper 2 is gonna be gruesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 pseudorachel


    I'm delighted with that paper it was amazing! that calculus question was so easy


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