Is this how bad things have gotten?

Stacksey

€1000 a month for this:

http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-rent/phibsborough/2-st-vincents-street-north-phibsborough-dublin-1646692/?ea=1&utm_source=property_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=property_alert_email

Its getting out of control

Noo

I pay the equivalent of €850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

maximoose

Honestly that doesn't even look that bad compared to other kip bedsits in the same price range.

Noo

maximoose wrote: »

Honestly that doesn't even look that bad compared to other kip bedsits in the same price range.

Thats also what terrifies me...that this isnt considered "that bad"!

Stacksey

Noo wrote: »

I pay the equivalent of €850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

Stay where you are bud

Walter H Price

Jesus that's grim, but to be honest I've seen worse looking for the same or more , a mate of mine ended up paying €850 for a kippy 1 bed studio last year that had a beer fridge as the actual fridge. if you've already gotten out i wouldn't give a second thought to coming back , no chance of this issue improving in the short term.

WhiteWalls

Things are awful bad, worse than the emergency

Keane2baMused

WTF that's insane.

MarkAnthony

Newly decorated and refurbished [By SVP] one bedroom apartment available in a well maintained, quiet house.
Translation: We've thrown up some stud wall, you'll be able to hear next door snoring, let alone anything else.

Original working fireplace.
Which we couldn't be arsed to re tile. May be only working heating come December.

Great location beside Mater hospital, short walk to O'Connell st. Bus routes, aircoach, Dublin bike stand seconds from door.
For getting the feck out of dodge.

Cafes, shops and parks very nearby.
Because cooking in that kitchen is going to be nigh on impossible.

On street residential parking. It is a self-contained, calm hide-away but close to the action.
A wall directly outside the living room window hides the junkies in the area.

Graham

Can't see how that meets the minimum standards:

They must also provide facilities for cooking and for the hygienic storage of food, to include the following:

4-ring hob with oven and grill
Cooker hood or extractor fan
Fridge and freezer, or a fridge-freezer

April 73

That is utterly depressing. If I had to pay €1000 a month for that I would cry.
What's also depressing is that it's had 1571 views in less than two days.

Baron Kurtz

It's the kind of place that the destitute go to die. Sadly, this isn't close to the worst of them.

handlemaster

it actually doesnt look to bad

Beanybabog

I feel awful for anyone looking to rent at the moment. And have no idea how families manage to rent family homes, the rents seem to be sometimes in excess of what the mortgage would be

triple nipple

Noo wrote:

I pay the equivalent of €850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

In Germany?

handlemaster

Noo wrote: »

I pay the equivalent of 850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

The city centre ... which on ? you can rent 3 bed houses in the country side in ireland for 400 euro. its all about location

Noo

triple nipple wrote: »

In Germany?

Brisbane

Lux23

That looks like a paradise compared to my place, but then I am not paying a grand a month for it.

Keane2baMused

This beaut is going for 800

http://touch.daft.ie/imagebrowser.daft?type=rental&id=1646781

Stacksey

Keane2baMused wrote: »

This beaut is going for 800

http://touch.daft.ie/imagebrowser.daft?type=rental&id=1646781

Most of the kips for rent in the city seen to be in the Dublin 7 area

Ian_80

Thats grand...sit on the jax while making your dinner....convienent!!!!

pc7

Worst thing is some of these will end up having more than one person in them.

physioman

April 73 wrote: »

That is utterly depressing. If I had to pay €1000 a month for that I would cry.
What's also depressing is that it's had 1571 views in less than two days.

Maybe because everyone reading this is looking at the ad !

JustShon

Stacksey wrote: »

Most of the kips for rent in the city seen to be in the Dublin 7 area

Lived around there for a while myself. Lots of old houses and lots of lazy landlords. Stick a cooker in a room in a house, put a bed in there, bit of running water and you're ready to go.

El_Dangeroso

Beanybabog wrote: »

I feel awful for anyone looking to rent at the moment. And have no idea how families manage to rent family homes, the rents seem to be sometimes in excess of what the mortgage would be

Rents started to exceed equivalent mortgages a long time ago, like back in 2013..

Walter H Price

Keane2baMused wrote: »

This beaut is going for 800

http://touch.daft.ie/imagebrowser.daft?type=rental&id=1646781

sad state of affairs right there ewwwwwwww

Noo

Further to my post about stuff like this discouraging me to return to ireland, i was intrigued to see in Brisbane what the same price would get you for a one bedroom unit at a similar location from the city centre. This unit works out at approx 750 euro a month. Ok its not furnished, but based on the OP thats not always a bad thing.

https://m.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-new+farm-418372014

Not trying to do a here is better than there or anything, its just so disheartening to look at the difference, especially when wages are higher here. I follow this forum to keep an eye on the situation for if i ever return home, so i always take great interest in theads like these

syklops

Noo wrote: »

Thats also what terrifies me...that this isnt considered "that bad"!

I know. If that was in Dublin 16 I'd honestly consider this place. 1k for that is not that bad. Yes thats how bad things have gotten.

MrMorooka

Noo wrote: »

Further to my post about stuff like this discouraging me to return to ireland, i was intrigued to see in Brisbane what the same price would get you for a one bedroom unit at a similar location from the city centre. This unit works out at approx 750 euro a month. Ok its not furnished, but based on the OP thats not always a bad thing.

https://m.realestate.com.au/property-unit-qld-new+farm-418372014

Not trying to do a here is better than there or anything, its just so disheartening to look at the difference, especially when wages are higher here. I follow this forum to keep an eye on the situation for if i ever return home, so i always take great interest in theads like these

That place is in a building we don't seem to have very many of, a small self-contained apartment block. Our version of that is mainly large old houses converted into a few units, and the quality of the conversion differs wildly.

EB_2013

Keane2baMused wrote: »

This beaut is going for 800

http://touch.daft.ie/imagebrowser.daft?type=rental&id=1646781

The original one posted at a grand doesn't look that bad compared to this :eek: What a dump.

Opening viewing, so they'll probably end up a few people wanting to take it.

April 73

I lived in plenty of dives similar to those examples when I was a student & in my early 20s. Usually with other fellow sufferers though and the craic was good.

The main problem now is that the dives are pricey. At least back in my day - a dive was cheap.

JustShon

April 73 wrote: »

The main problem now is that the dives are pricey. At least back in my day - a dive was cheap.

I think that's the whole point of the thread. It's not "Look at the kind of dives that are on the market"

It's "Look at how much a dive costs these days"

Noo

MrMorooka wrote: »

That place is in a building we don't seem to have very many of, a small self-contained apartment block. Our version of that is mainly large old houses converted into a few units, and the quality of the conversion differs wildly.

Exactly, these types of unit blocks are popping up everywhere. Demolish two houses and build something like this, in city these will be high rise, in residential areas they may only be 3-5 stories. My own apartment building is only 2 stories with total of 6 units, built on land where there was one, maybe two houses previously. Doesnt look out of place with the houses next door. There is gonna be a big surplus of rental properties here in the next few year as this type of building continues, which will mean even lower rent i hope (not that im complaining about mine). Just not common in ireland and i cant see it taking off.

ted1

Noo wrote: »

I pay the equivalent of €850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

What's the minimum wage and average salary where you are?

JustShon

Noo wrote: »

Exactly, these types of unit blocks are popping up everywhere. Demolish two houses and build something like this, in city these will be high rise, in residential areas they may only be 3-5 stories. My own apartment building is only 2 stories with total of 6 units, built on land where there was one, maybe two houses previously. Doesnt look out of place with the houses next door. There is gonna be a big surplus of rental properties here in the next few year as this type of building continues, which will mean even lower rent i hope (not that im complaining about mine). Just not common in ireland and i cant see it taking off.

People will object to any kind of high rise apartment blocks on the basis that they "look ugly."

I think it's the way to go for accommodation but I'm in the minority on that apparently.

Smiley11

At least theres a new or professionally cleaned mattress. God I don't envy anybody trying to rent in this nutty country these days!

snubbleste

Well no, this is how bad things have gotten

JustShon

snubbleste wrote: »

Well no, this is how bad things have gotten

Fcuk that's a grim response. Absolutely true but really fcuking grim too.

REXER

handlemaster wrote: »

The city centre ... which on ? you can rent 3 bed houses in the country side in ireland for 400 euro. its all about location

Any links to these houses at all?

I don't believe that the current rental/housing situation is contributing to numbers sleeping rough. If you look back over the last few years numbers sleeping rough are actually much lower now than a few years ago when rents were far lower and much more availability.

Its usually personal issues that lead people to be sleeping rough rather than an actual lack of a place to live (there are of course exceptions).

snubbleste

Reed Melted Nag wrote: »

I don't believe that the current rental/housing situation is contributing to numbers sleeping rough. If you look back over the last few years numbers sleeping rough are actually much lower now than a few years ago when rents were far lower and much more availability.
Its usually personal issues that lead people to be sleeping rough rather than an actual lack of a place to live (there are of course exceptions).

That's just silly. Of course high rents are forcing people into homelessness. If you are a singleton, where do you go?

Walter H Price

Reed Melted Nag wrote: »

I don't believe that the current rental/housing situation is contributing to numbers sleeping rough. If you look back over the last few years numbers sleeping rough are actually much lower now than a few years ago when rents were far lower and much more availability.

Its usually personal issues that lead people to be sleeping rough rather than an actual lack of a place to live (there are of course exceptions).

Completely agree the rent issue is not forcing people to sleep rough , family's in hostels and hotels is a different story ... the absolute scandal of this whole issue is that professionals are having to pay more in rent on poorly kept , poorly maintained low quality housing , then they would on a mortgage for a 3 bed semi in the suburbs. its madness and thees rents in turn are preventing even people earning good salaries being able to afford to save an make the required deposits effectively keeping them stuck in ****ty accommodation , that would otherwise be available at lower rents to those now living in hostels its a vicious circle.

snubbleste

snubbleste wrote: »

That's just silly. Of course high rents are forcing people into homelessness. If you are a singleton, where do you go?

While I actually consider the term homeless to mean actually sleeping rough the term is now being used to refer to anyone who is in temporary accommodation etc.

So yes homeless figures are up but these people are mostly in B&Bs, hotel rooms, hostels etc.

The figure for people actually sleeping rough in Dublin are actually down by over 60 from 2014 as an example. So the only conclusion one can draw from that is that the current situation is not having a major impact on the numbers of rough sleepers.

If you had said the number of people living in temp accommodation is up then you would be right but your picture referred to rough sleepers.

whiskeyman

Reed Melted Nag wrote: »

I don't believe that the current rental/housing situation is contributing to numbers sleeping rough. If you look back over the last few years numbers sleeping rough are actually much lower now than a few years ago when rents were far lower and much more availability.

Its usually personal issues that lead people to be sleeping rough rather than an actual lack of a place to live (there are of course exceptions).

Big big difference between sleeping rough and homelessness.
Homelessness is a massive problem in Ireland.

eezipc

ted1 wrote: »

Noo wrote: »

I pay the equivalent of 850 per month for a 2 bed, looks twice maybe three time the size of that place, 4kms from the city centre. This is why I'm afraid to move back to Ireland.

What's the minimum wage and average salary where you are?

Isn't it relative? For example, this studio apartment in Randwick in Sydney is $650 per week. That's quite a distance from the city centre. Thats about 418 per week. Isn't that even more expensive? The cheapest 1 bed I can see in Sydney is $400/ 250 a week.
Brisbane is cheaper than Sydney but Sydney seems more expensive than Dublin. I used to live in Townsville, which would be cheaper again.
Comparing Brisbane with Dublin is not really fair.

The Randy Riverbeast

The place wouldnt be that bad if it had a decent kitchen. Maybe Ive just been worn down from looking for places to live.

Stacksey

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

The place wouldnt be that bad if it had a decent kitchen. Maybe Ive just been worn down from looking for places to live.

Whats your budget?

JustShon

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

The place wouldnt be that bad if it had a decent kitchen. Maybe Ive just been worn down from looking for places to live.

Trust me I know the feeling. I convinced myself that a total kip "wasn't too bad" a few years ago because I was sick of the constant viewings and not having a place of my own. Big mistake.

Walter H Price

JustShon wrote: »

Trust me I know the feeling. I convinced myself that a total kip "wasn't too bad" a few years ago because I was sick of the constant viewings and not having a place of my own. Big mistake.

Think anyone renting in Dublin with a budget of under €1,200 is in the same boat , there no chance of finding a really decent place. like our apartment now is €1,500. But even still we've had ongoing issues with mold in the bathrooms and around windows , we've replaced nearly all the furniture incl beds , couch's units wardrobes etc... basically everything bar the table and that's the next to go because they were all total crap , the landlord didn't care at all he told us to fire away as he'd got most of the stuff from recycle centers and charity shops.we also had to buy plug in oil filled rads as the storage heating is fkd (like storage heating in every place we've lived) .

we can well afford the rent and have one room sublet but its taken us pumping almost €3,000 of our own money into the place to make it in anyway comfy , warm and not mold infested. Like this really is what it has come too on over €85'000 combined we regularly talk about how lucky we are to have this place and the truth is compared to living standards in other country's its an overpriced kip to be honest, but no chance we could afford better and save to get out of the rent trap. as i said before it really is a sorry state of affairs at this stage

The Randy Riverbeast

Stacksey wrote: »

Whats your budget?

I've just been looking for a place cheaper than what Im currently paying (700), Its in my budget but doesnt leave much left over. In Galway though, not Dublin so prices arent as bad but there is still a lack of 1/2 bed places.

JustShon wrote: »

Trust me I know the feeling. I convinced myself that a total kip "wasn't too bad" a few years ago because I was sick of the constant viewings and not having a place of my own. Big mistake.

I'm lucky the place Im in at the moment is pretty good, have been keeping an eye on daft but have yet to find anything worth looking at in the past month. Prices start 100 above what we're paying for worse and any shared places don't want couples. It isnt worth to risk to move if you have a place thats half decent.

Stacksey

In the past 10 years people have been moving abroad because they couldn't get work here, in the next 10 years people will be moving abroad because they cant find somewhere to live