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Dangerous Drivers. Would you report one if you seen one?

  • 28-04-2016 7:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,837 ✭✭✭✭
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    Also is there still a number for reporting dangerous drivers?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I was driving up the M1 earlier and there was hundreds of them in the wrong carriageway. In the end up I had to big sign on my windscreen

    DRIVE ON THE RIGHT YOU STUPID BASTARDS!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    Yes , I did and would do it again. Our local station has an easy to remember no. but I'd say 999 or 1890 205 805.for traffic watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    I would in future.

    I was driving down the n4 with my other half and a guy and his missus were tailgating us. We had no (safe) way to pull into the other lane. Going at 110kmph or so .

    So what did he do? Swerved into the left lane (nearly crashing into someone as he did).

    My other half being so hacked off flipped the bird at him. Guy pulls straight into the lane in front of us, and proceeds to Jam on his breaks. The road was clear ahead of him, no reason for him to do so other than an attempt to get us to crash into him. Absolute psycho. Our young baby in the back seat too.

    Only for good breaks and my guy having his wits about him we were dead meat!

    I was so close to calling to report him but I got no registration and was just too shaken up to think straight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭alma73


    I did and the hassle afterwards with gards and reports and then GOING TO COURT..


    The moral right thing to do is report, otherwise some idiot teenager is not only going to kill himself, but you aswell, however the system does not make it easy. If you report a case, you will have to testify in court, there is followup, interviews..etc. etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Fire missiles at them from my Aston Martin


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I would in future.

    I was driving down the n4 with my other half and a guy and his missus were tailgating us. We had no (safe) way to pull into the other lane. Going at 110kmph or so .

    So what did he do? Swerved into the left lane (nearly crashing into someone as he did).

    My other half being so hacked off flipped the bird at him. Guy pulls straight into the lane in front of us, and proceeds to Jam on his breaks. The road was clear ahead of him, no reason for him to do so other than an attempt to get us to crash into him. Absolute psycho. Our young baby in the back seat too.

    Only for good breaks and my guy having his wits about him we were dead meat!

    I was so close to calling to report him but I got no registration and was just too shaken up to think straight.

    Erm, you were clearly in the wrong lane, holding up traffic?
    He undertook you & then the road ahead was clear?
    You should be driving in the left lane unless overtaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    As a pedestrian or cyclist I would ignore them and be angry about their behaviour but no I would do nothing.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    alma73 wrote: »
    I did and the hassle afterwards with gards and reports and then GOING TO COURT..


    The moral right thing to do is report, otherwise some idiot teenager is not only going to kill himself, but you aswell, however the system does not make it easy. If you report a case, you will have to testify in court, there is followup, interviews..etc. etc.

    Who else is going to give evidence?
    You're the witness, no one else saw the dangerous driving.
    If you feel strongly enough, you will go to court


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Erm, you were clearly in the wrong lane, holding up traffic?
    He undertook you & then the road ahead was clear?
    You should be driving in the left lane unless overtaking.

    Were you there? Had to move into the overtaking lane and was waiting for a chance to get back into the middle lane when it all happened. Nothing more to it than that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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    Have taken down a couple of numbers...but by the time I've got home the anger has gone and I've thought what's the point...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    The problem is at least half the time it's the person reporting who was probably driving dangerously.

    Everytime I get on the M50 there's some twat in one of the overtaking lanes bimbling along.

    As for GOING TO COURT what did you expect, you reported a crime, ya think the person accused shouldn't get to face his/her accuser?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    Patww79 wrote: »
    You can get boxed out into the outside lane at times, not everything is so black and white. I'd ask for clarification on them saying that they couldn't move safely to the left at that moment before jumping to that.

    This!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Were you there? Had to move into the overtaking lane and was waiting for a chance to get back into the middle lane when it all happened. Nothing more to it than that.

    The chance normally presents itself when you've overtaken, the clue being very much in the name of the lane. If one (and I chose that word carefully as to be fair to you I wasn't there) is going to take their sweet time overtaking a line of traffic why not just ease up a bit and stay over to the left.

    I have very little time for tailgaters but I can understand where the frustration comes from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Patww79 wrote: »
    You can get boxed out into the outside lane at times, not everything is so black and white. I'd ask for clarification on them saying that they couldn't move safely to the left at that moment before jumping to that.

    If there's enough room for someone behind to move into the left lane and pick up enough speed to pass them they couldn't have been boxed out.
    That's bad driving that causes others to be reckless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    The problem is at least half the time it's the person reporting who was probably driving dangerously.

    Everytime I get on the M50 there's some twat in one of the overtaking lanes bimbling along.

    As for GOING TO COURT what did you expect, you reported a crime, ya think the person accused shouldn't get to face his/her accuser?

    Some twat?

    Oh right you're one of those emm 'individuals that drive up someone's arse when the person is boxed in yeah?

    What would you have them do move closer to the barrier so you can squeeze in between the two lanes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Have taken down a couple of numbers...but by the time I've got home the anger has gone and I've thought what's the point...

    It's much more cathartic to just post it in the Dashcam thread in motors and have 50 people join you in thinking the person is a cnut.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    If there's enough room for someone behind to move into the left lane and pick up enough speed to pass them they couldn't have been boxed out.
    That's bad driving that causes others to be reckless.

    The person he swerved in front of had to jam on the breaks.

    This is quite funny actually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Some twat?

    Oh right you're one of those emm 'individuals that drive up someone's arse when the person is boxed in yeah?

    What would you have them do move closer to the barrier so you can squeeze in between the two lanes?

    I don't drive up their jacksie, I undertake them. I'm beginning to think the inside lane of the M50 is some sort of express lane. I'm also able to see that 90% of the time it's not the person in front of me but the eejit 2 or 3 cars up. There's only very small runs of the M50 where I can get by on the outside of the outside lane, unfortunately.

    If you're boxed in to the outside lane speed up - easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    The chance normally presents itself when you've overtaken, the clue being very much in the name of the lane. If one (and I chose that word carefully as to be fair to you I wasn't there) is going to take their sweet time overtaking a line of traffic why not just ease up a bit and stay over to the left.

    I have very little time for tailgaters but I can understand where the frustration comes from.

    Trust me there wasn't a chance and this all happened in the space of about 60 seconds. Not 5 minutes.

    Up the arse of the car, guy swerves in and causes another car in middle lane to jam on, swerves back in front and jams on his breaks in front of us


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    The person he swerved in front of had to jam on the breaks.

    This is quite funny actually.

    You're missing the point that there had to have been space in the left lane for you to be undertaken in the first place.
    Even if someone jammed on the brakes he was behind you, and had enough space to pick up speed and get in front of you.
    Clearly there wasn't a car directly to your left unless he drove through it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Trust me there wasn't a chance and this all happened in the space of about 60 seconds. Not 5 minutes.

    Up the arse of the car, guy swerves in and causes another car in middle lane to jam on, swerves back in front and jams on his breaks in front of us

    I am aware that this scenario can happen - I do give you that. Generally though it very rare it happens over a 60 second period, more like 5 minutes. I have to give you the benefit of the doubt as I wasn't there but you're probably about 1 in 20 that this happens too. The other 19 are hogging a lane to one degree or another.

    Although even 60 seconds is 2Km usually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Doesn't cause recklessness. It may be wrong but at worst it causes inconvenience, the recklesness is still a decision that's all on the driver doing it.

    True but it's bad driving on both sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    You're missing the point that there had to have been space in the left lane for you to be undertaken in the first place.
    Even if someone jammed on the brakes he was behind you, and had enough space to pick up speed and get in front of you.
    Clearly there wasn't a car directly to your left unless he drove through it!

    There was not enough space and doing so would have been unsafe.

    If he could have waited a WHOLE other maybe 20 seconds or so all would have been fine.

    I'm not going to keep repeating myself. You weren't there so stop raising assumptions on a situation when you weren't there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    I think we can all agree that someone hogging the overtaking lane is incredibly annoying (it doesn't sound like Keane2baMused was doing that imo). But undertaking and then moving back into the overtaking lane to then slam on your brakes because you're annoyed....flat out dangerous. I would 100% report someone if they were driving dangerously and I was able to get their reg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    I am aware that this scenario can happen - I do give you that. Generally though it very rare it happens over a 60 second period, more like 5 minutes. I have to give you the benefit of the doubt as I wasn't there but you're probably about 1 in 20 that this happens too. The other 19 are hogging a lane to one degree or another.

    Although even 60 seconds is 2Km usually.

    This guy was little boy racer in his GTI. We were the 1 in 20 that day!

    I have no need or want to stay in an overtake lane.

    I'm a get f in and out type (Adam) and it p1sses me off to no end when people treat it as a 'fast lane'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    scdublin wrote: »
    I think we can all agree that someone hogging the overtaking lane is incredibly annoying (it doesn't sound like Keane2baMused was doing that imo). But undertaking and then moving back into the overtaking lane to then slam on your brakes because you're annoyed....flat out dangerous. I would 100% report someone if they were driving dangerously and I was able to get their reg.
    This guy was little boy racer in his GTI. We were the 1 in 20 that day!

    I have no need or want to stay in an overtake lane.

    I'm a get f in and out type (Adam) and it p1sses me off to no end when people treat it as a 'fast lane'.

    Quite agree.

    Dash cams should be in use by many more people and frankly should be standard kit on new cars IMO.


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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The person he swerved in front of had to jam on the breaks.

    This is quite funny actually.

    How could you see the person he swerved in front of?
    There was enough space on the left for him to undertake you, and you say the person he pulled out in front of, jammed on his breaks, how could you possibly see that?

    If there was room on thge left, that's where you should have been.
    People can get boxed into the right hand lane, but obviously you weren't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    There was not enough space and doing so would have been unsafe.

    If he could have waited a WHOLE other maybe 20 seconds or so all would have been fine.

    I'm not going to keep repeating myself. You weren't there so stop raising assumptions on a situation when you weren't there.

    I'm not making assumptions I'm suggesting that as there was room for a car to undertake there may have been room for you to move in. If you say there wasn't then fair enough.

    In general (and not aimed at keane2beAmused) there is nothing worse than someone who insists on sitting in the overtaking lane until they pass the next car while a queue of traffic builds up behind them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Sorry to drag this back onto topic as I helped derail it - yes I do report dangerous drivers traffic watch are excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    There was not enough space and doing so would have been unsafe.

    If he could have waited a WHOLE other maybe 20 seconds or so all would have been fine.

    I'm not going to keep repeating myself. You weren't there so stop raising assumptions on a situation when you weren't there.
    In general (and not aimed at keane2beAmused) there is nothing worse than someone who insists on sitting in the overtaking lane until they pass the next car while a queue of traffic builds up behind them.
    The whole point of an overtaking lane is to be in it until you pass the next car though (assuming they're going faster than the car in the left). Different if they're in it and going slower than the left lane and if they're not actually moving back in, but they have to wait until they pass the cars before going back in regardless of how many cars have built up behind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I like driving in the fast lane, God knows I pay enough road tax for the privilege.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,030 ✭✭✭njs030


    scdublin wrote: »
    The whole point of an overtaking lane is to be in it until you pass the next car though (assuming they're going faster than the car in the left). Different if they're in it and going slower than the left lane and if they're not actually moving back in, but they have to wait until they pass the cars before going back in regardless of how many cars have built up behind them.

    You're supposed to move in and let faster moving traffic pass.
    It's one thing to wait to pass a stream of traffic but when there's space on your left you should move in until you get close enough to the next car that you can move out and overtake. You don't sit in the lane for 5-10 mins while you slowly build up enough speed!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭scdublin


    scdublin wrote: »
    The whole point of an overtaking lane is to be in it until you pass the next car though (assuming they're going faster than the car in the left). Different if they're in it and going slower than the left lane and if they're not actually moving back in, but they have to wait until they pass the cars before going back in regardless of how many cars have built up behind them.

    You're supposed to move in and let faster moving traffic pass.
    It's one thing to wait to pass a stream of traffic but when there's space on your left you should move in until you get close enough to the next car that you can move out and overtake. You don't sit in the lane for 5-10 mins while you slowly build up enough speed!
    I think we're pretty much saying the same thing but in a different way so yeah I agree. I just don't like when you are genuinely waiting to move back in but there's a row of cars on your left so you have to wait to pass them, and the person behind you is driving right up your backside like you can do anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    scdublin wrote: »
    I think we're pretty much saying the same thing but in a different way so yeah I agree. I just don't like when you are genuinely waiting to move back in but there's a row of cars on your left so you have to wait to pass them, and the person behind you is driving right up your backside like you can do anything else.

    Exactly that.

    There are people in the overtaking lane who cruise along like Sunday drivers, then on the other extreme the get the f out of my way boy racers who drive up your behind and will stop at nothing to get you out of their way.

    The rules of the road don't apply to these people and they treat it as a fast lane which it is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    I have been driving long enough to have some appreciation of reaction times and stopping distances. At motorway speeds, the "length of an artic" (about 20m.) is dangerously close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    I've reported a couple of people who nearly killed me in the past or were doing something so stupid I just couldn't let it go. I never heard anything back though. I have also contacted the head office of a truck driver who nearly drove me off the side of the m50 at one stage when he changed lanes (into me), they told me "they'd handle the matter". I should have followed up to make sure they'd fired him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    I like driving in the fast lane, God knows I pay enough road tax for the privilege.

    We've seen your idea of the fast lane, you menace to society!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭zl1whqvjs75cdy


    I've reported some lunatic from my local area. The guard at the station said it would be very difficult to find him. Surely the car (which I had the reg of) is registered to an address. I'm no sherlock Holmes but I'd start there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I've been reported by another driver and rightly so.
    Used to commute from tramore to naas before the motorway was built.
    Couldn't stand the drive once you'd pass Carlow. Bends, narrow roads, tractors etc.
    One night during the winter I left work late and nothing but traffic all the way home.
    About 30km from Waterford I lost my patience with one car in front and overtook on a double line about 300m before a bend which caused him to brake and beep and flash.
    I was young and stupid and thought fcuk him.
    Got to Waterford and an unmarked car was sitting at the roundabout next to the train station.
    Followed me until the IT and pulled me over.
    I apologised and they took pity on my commute every single day and let me off with a warning.
    The cops do listen to those calls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    Coincidently I was hoping to report a driver this evening.

    I had been out for a run and the park where I run is off a busy single carriageway road which is wide and about a mile long but on a gradual curve so not safe to over take.

    I had been getting in the car which was on the hard shoulder on the rhs of the road when I this souped up MG/Rover hatchback sped past at a ridiculous speed overtaking a 206. I before I could even mutter the words "**** me" oncoming traffic whizzed past. A second sooner and I could well have been pancaked! I tried to catch up with the car to get the number plate but by the time I was on the road he was well gone. The ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭armaghlad


    bear1 wrote: »
    I've been reported by another driver and rightly so.
    Used to commute from tramore to naas before the motorway was built.
    Couldn't stand the drive once you'd pass Carlow. Bends, narrow roads, tractors etc.
    One night during the winter I left work late and nothing but traffic all the way home.
    About 30km from Waterford I lost my patience with one car in front and overtook on a double line about 300m before a bend which caused him to brake and beep and flash.
    I was young and stupid and thought fcuk him.
    Got to Waterford and an unmarked car was sitting at the roundabout next to the train station.
    Followed me until the IT and pulled me over.
    I apologised and they took pity on my commute every single day and let me off with a warning.
    The cops do listen to those calls.
    I was reported myself actually.. nothing out of the ordinary I thought though. Coming home one evening from work and I veered onto the white strip of the hard shoulder on the m1 (NI) twice in a short period of time. Queue a knock on the door from the police 20 mins later checking to see if I was "ok" as I had been reported and they thought I might have been "unwell"....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    In general (and not aimed at keane2beAmused) there is nothing worse than someone who insists on sitting in the overtaking lane until they pass the next car while a queue of traffic builds up behind them.

    Since Motorists seem to enjoy getting nice and frothy with rage about the overtaking lane, if your sitting at 120 and you can't pull into the driving lane because of traffic what are you meant to do (assuming you pulled into that lane for a legitimate reason)?
    (I don't drive much but when I do I am slow and annoying, the rest of the time I cycle so I am definitely a target of hate)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Since Motorists seem to enjoy getting nice and frothy with rage about the overtaking lane, if your sitting at 120 and you can't pull into the driving lane because of traffic what are you meant to do (assuming you pulled into that lane for a legitimate reason)?
    (I don't drive much but when I do I am slow and annoying, the rest of the time I cycle so I am definitely a target of hate)

    Overtake and pull in.
    I usually speed up a bit though when overtaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭esforum


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    alma73 wrote: »
    I did and the hassle afterwards with gards and reports and then GOING TO COURT..

    You cant both be right :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭Lady is a tramp


    If I'd enough information to report them, I absolutely would. Problem is most times I've seen dangerous driving, they're gone before I'd have a chance to get their numberplate or anything else.

    I'm also crap with location. I had this problem recently. I was driving towards Sligo, and anyone familiar with the area would know of the metal horse up high on a hill beside the road between Boyle and Sligo? It's a fairly distinctive landmark. And it's a fast enough stretch of road. So anyways, I'd driven past that and then around a corner, and there were two horses escaped from a field and out on the road, running and jumping all over the place. Cars from both directions were braking and swerving to avoid them, and an accident could easily have occurred, as they were just around a bend and it's a 100kph zone. So I pulled in and rang the local Garda station to let them know. I told them there were horses out on the road and causing a bit of chaos, "ummm .... it's somewhere on the road between Boyle and Sligo. I don't know the area. Lets see, oh, it's just past the horse, you know the horse up high on the hill?" "But I thought you said the horses were on the road?" "No the other one, the metal one ..." I think she thought I was a bit of a looper. :o

    Anyways the horses were rounded up, no accident occurred, no harm done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭kingtut


    Yes I have reported 2 people in the past (could have reported hundreds but only 2 so far made me feel like they could have actually ended my life).


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