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Anti-Carb diet not leading to weight loss

  • 24-04-2016 7:43pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16


    Hi I have been trying to avoid carbs as duly as possible over the last 6 months but don't seem to be losing the weight I thought I would. I am 32 years old and 5'11. Looking to get from 15 stone to 12.5 stone. I carry a lot of weight around the gullet area as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    How hard did you work out?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    How hard did you work out?

    I jog a fair bit. Every second evening I would do at least a couple of miles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    What exactly have you been eating?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭moc moc a moc


    How many calories are you taking in per day total?

    How many calories do you estimate you are using up per day total?

    If the first number is bigger than the second number, adjust one or both until the opposite is true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭DMcL1971


    If the poster is asking for advice on their low-carb diet why don't we stick to that instead of taking it off topic to calories and exercise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Reduce calories in and increase calories out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭DMcL1971


    Reduce calories in and increase calories out.

    That's what they are trying to do, by implementing a low-carb diet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    Dolbert wrote: »
    What exactly have you been eating?

    Usual day as follows:

    Breakfast
    3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Supper
    4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers
    100gm cheddar

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    DMcL1971 wrote: »
    That's what they are trying to do, by implementing a low-carb diet.

    No they are just eating more low carb food


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    DMcL1971 wrote: »
    If the poster is asking for advice on their low-carb diet why don't we stick to that instead of taking it off topic to calories and exercise.

    Because carbs or not, if he's taking in too many calories he won't lose weight. It doesn't matter where those calories come from.

    OP, from looking at your daily diet it's a lot of quite calorie-dense food. Do you really need 2 rib-eye steaks and a 4 egg omelette in one evening? Are you eating when hungry or just out of habit?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    Dolbert wrote: »
    Because carbs or not, if he's taking in too many calories he won't lose weight. It doesn't matter where those calories come from.

    OP, from looking at your daily diet it's a lot of quite calorie-dense food. Do you really need 2 rib-eye steaks and a 4 egg omelette in one evening? Are you eating when hungry or just out of habit?

    I do enjoy food. I suppose dinner is 5.30 and supper is at 9.30. I only have wine with dinner not with supper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Truview wrote: »
    Usual day as follows:

    Breakfast
    3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Supper
    4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers
    100gm cheddar

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes

    Woah that's a lot of food!!

    Knock two of the salmon fillets on the head to start

    http://www.ditchthecarbs.com/top-10-reasons-youre-not-loosing-weight/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    DMcL1971 wrote: »
    If the poster is asking for advice on their low-carb diet why don't we stick to that instead of taking it off topic to calories and exercise.

    Because losing weight us dependent on the number of calories consumed.

    Low-carb foods also contain calories.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    Woah that's a lot of food!!

    Knock two of the salmon fillets on the head to start

    I suppose I might as well start calorie counting. I thought zero bread spuds pasta rice etc was supposed to work though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,228 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Truview wrote:
    Usual day as follows:

    This has to be a joke.

    No?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Truview wrote: »
    I suppose I might as well start calorie counting. I thought zero bread spuds pasta rice etc was supposed to work though.

    From the look of it you are eating food for 2 people I reckon!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Truview wrote: »
    Usual day as follows:

    Breakfast
    3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Supper
    4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers
    100gm cheddar

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes

    Sure you do. This is fifty Euro per day diet without wine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    This has to be a joke.

    No?

    No why would you say that? I had understood a carb free diet with low intake of processed food would help lose some weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Truview wrote: »
    I suppose I might as well start calorie counting. I thought zero bread spuds pasta rice etc was supposed to work though.

    1 gram of carbohydrates = 4 calories.
    1 gram of protein = 4 calories
    1 gram of fat = 9 calories

    Avoiding carbs will make no difference if you still eat too many calories


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    1 gram of carbohydrates = 4 calories.
    1 gram of protein = 4 calories
    1 gram of fat = 9 calories

    Avoiding carbs will make no difference if you still eat too many calories

    Yeah but he losses 350 calories trolling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭Harika


    Not wondering that you don't loose weight. Even when I eat normal, I eat less than you.
    My low carb diet usually looks like this, examples
    breakfast> 300grams of salmon or tub of cottage cheese
    lunch> grilled chicken breast with vegetables
    dinner> can of tuna in brine with vinegar with veggies
    snacks> handful of peanuts

    Estimates your diet is 2500 calories a day, no wonder you don't loose any weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,687 ✭✭✭✭Penny Tration


    Cut what you're eating by 40%.

    You're eating a massive amount of food.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    meeeeh wrote: »
    Sure you do. This is fifty Euro per day diet without wine.

    Em? Sure I spend money on good food and wine. Why not if I can afford to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Truview wrote: »
    Dial Hard wrote: »
    This has to be a joke.

    No?

    No why would you say that? I had understood a carb free diet with low intake of processed food would help lose some weight.
    Because anyone eating that much food would be 30 stone and not attempting to loose weight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Truview wrote: »
    Em? Sure I spend money on good food and wine. Why not if I can afford to?

    And a cook to prepare it, I bet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Stacker Pentecost


    Woah that's a lot of food!!

    Knock two of the salmon fillets on the head to start

    http://www.ditchthecarbs.com/top-10-reasons-youre-not-loosing-weight/

    Don't listen to this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭nkav86


    I really think this is a p**s take


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    nkav86 wrote: »
    I really think this is a p**s take
    I mean who doesn't have daily foie gras. I'm pretty sure Louis the 16th er I mean the op will be losing weight shortly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭dev100


    Truview wrote:
    Usual day as follows:

    Truview wrote:
    Breakfast 3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Truview wrote:
    Lunch Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Truview wrote:
    Dinner 2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Truview wrote:
    Supper 4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers 100gm cheddar

    Truview wrote:
    Snacks Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes

    I done the paleo type diet and done 2 days of cross fit training every week and the weight fell off me every week.


    Basically I ate salmon more eggs and meat and more veg and nuts and what not , I ate very plain food . Restricted staples like spuds to Sunday s. I was never hungry but suffered low energy with decreased carbs.

    Down load myfitnesspal app for logging food and calorie content etc / great app.
    Use it as a rough guide.

    There's other guides that will tell you roughly what cals you would needing for your height etc.

    As other posters will tell you less in more out and you will lose weight.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 Truview


    I mean who doesn't have daily foie gras. I'm pretty sure Louis the 16th er I mean the op will be losing weight shortly

    I don't have foie gras daily. A chum brought a pot back from overseas and I was using it appropriately to ensure I got through it before it staled.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭El_Dangeroso


    If this isn't a p*ss take (still not convinced)..

    OP, a low carb diet works by suppressing appetite hugely.

    There is no way in the world I could eat the amount of protein you have listed per day.

    If this is your diet then for some reason the appetite suppression is clearly not kicking in for you and you need to cut your intake by at least 50% or start counting calories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Do people not realise carbs are needed for energy and recovery?

    I thought all this no carb dieting was a myth buried deep in 1998


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭Harika


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Do people not realise carbs are needed for energy and recovery?

    I thought all this no carb dieting was a myth buried deep in 1998

    Yes carbs are needed, but no one is talking about no-carbs, except the OP, who has carbs in his anti-carb diet. Even Atkins, doesn't speak of no carbs, but low carbs. In reality, no one knows exactly, for every study there is a study opposing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    The op has been banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭DubTony


    The op has been banned.

    ... from the kitchen ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    All food is metabolized into glucose, or it is not food. Even eating zero carbs doesn't mean the body is starved of carbohydrate. That said, there is a balance; if I don't eat a small serving of simple carbs daily, my gut does not seem to want to produce the correct amount of serotonin. But otherwise my body seems to do fine converting nice pure veg and oils and fresh lean flesh foods into glucose to attempt to feed my poor insulin-resistant cells. I don't lose weight on it either (despite modest calorie counts overall), but at least I am not giving myself crazy blood sugar numbers. My GP and specialist and I have some interesting theories why, having to do with everything from stomach receptor signaling to gut environment to heredity to possible PCOS. When a low-carb diet with fewer than maintenance calories is not working for weight loss, all bets are off and you need to look to individual factors, alone and in combination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Piehead


    How good are these keto/paleo diets?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭Harika


    Piehead wrote: »
    How good are these keto/paleo diets?

    As good as any diet you can follow for a long term.
    Important to check with your doctor and keep an eye on cholesterol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭Piehead


    Truview wrote: »
    Usual day as follows:

    Breakfast
    3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Supper
    4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers
    100gm cheddar

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes

    Is this a good starting off point for Keeto?


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Truview wrote: »
    Usual day as follows:

    Breakfast
    3salmon fillets + 1 tub of cream cheese

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 3 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    2 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions and 2 fried eggs + table spoon foie gras

    Supper
    4egg omelette with peanut butter and peppers
    100gm cheddar

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes and grapes

    That would be a suitable diet of a professional body builder.


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    DMcL1971 wrote: »
    If the poster is asking for advice on their low-carb diet why don't we stick to that instead of taking it off topic to calories and exercise.

    Probably because their diet has been ineffective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Piehead wrote: »
    Is this a good starting off point for Keeto?

    This would be a much better start

    Breakfast
    2 egg omelette with peppers, 30g of chesse

    Lunch
    Chicken stew made from 1 chicken fillets carrots cauliflower and zucchini

    Dinner
    1 ribeye steaks with butter sauce onions, green veg

    Snacks
    Parma ham, cheese cubes, nuts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Piehead wrote: »
    How good are these keto/paleo diets?

    If you're looking to drop weight, then they are just another way of controlling calorie intake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,713 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    Piehead wrote: »
    How good are these keto/paleo diets?

    I think dietdoctor.com is a good resource for starting off with Keto


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭LaChatteGitane


    Piehead wrote: »
    Is this a good starting off point for Keeto?

    Not for Keto, because it contains too many proteins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭oleras


    Old thread I know but, speaking of protein, how is it counted ? Say a salmon fillet that weights 100g, this has 25g of protein.

    If you are limiting yourself to 120/150g of protein a day is it the raw weight or the nutritional protein value, 25g in the salmon case ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭Cill94


    oleras wrote: »
    Old thread I know but, speaking of protein, how is it counted ? Say a salmon fillet that weights 100g, this has 25g of protein.

    If you are limiting yourself to 120/150g of protein a day is it the raw weight or the nutritional protein value, 25g in the salmon case ?

    Not sure what you mean. You just add the total number of grams of protein together for the day.

    Weight of the food is not a factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭oleras


    Cill94 wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean. You just add the total number of grams of protein together for the day.

    Weight of the food is not a factor.

    Sorry, didnt explain it well.

    My fitness pal lists 100g of salmon fillet as having 25g of protein.

    If i want to eat 100g or protein in a day, would it be one 100g salmon fillet or 4 100g salmon fillets ?

    So as you say, weight of food isnt a factor, so it would be 400g of salmon to get 100g of protein ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    oleras wrote: »
    Sorry, didnt explain it well.

    My fitness pal lists 100g of salmon fillet as having 25g of protein.

    If i want to eat 100g or protein in a day, would it be one 100g salmon fillet or 4 100g salmon fillets ?

    So as you say, weight of food isnt a factor, so it would be 400g of salmon to get 100g of protein ?

    If 100g of salmon has 25g protein then 400g salmon has 100g protein.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ayzeb123


    There's a really good carb counter on the Atkins website that is very helpful when starting off on Keto to get the portion amounts correct. It gives Carbs, Fat and Protein content for various foods.

    If you visit the Atkins Uk site and click on support and then Carb Counter.

    Been on Keto myself since 25/01 this year and down 14kg. Easiest meal plan i've ever done, no hunger, no cravings and loads of alternative recipes for the stuff i like if I feel like baking or having something sweet. You can even have a glass of wine (as long as it's over 13% alcohol = less sugar) or a G&T and stay in Ketosis.


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