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    #32
    PLL
    Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭PLL


    It's like the church of the flying spaghetti monster and the woman that fought to wear a colander on her head in her driving licence photo, making a point by stating it was part of her religion. She was just making a point that she should be free to wear head gear if she wants to.

    The guy should be allowed to wear his hoody up and not be judged as a potential criminal,in the same way a woman in a hijab should be free to wear it without the assumption she is or knows terrorists.


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    #33
    meeeeh
    Registered Users Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    PLL wrote: »
    It's like the church of the flying spaghetti monster and the woman that fought to wear a colander on her head in her driving licence photo, making a point by stating it was part of her religion. She was just making a point that she should be free to wear head gear if she wants to.

    The guy should be allowed to wear his hoody up and not be judged as a potential criminal,in the same way a woman in a hijab should be free to wear it without the assumption she is or knows terrorists.

    Yeah and random checks in the airport's randomly select more darker skinned people. These things are based on perception or crime stats. We had quite a few break ins into the yard at work. Surprisingly enough no women in burkas and of plenty men in hoodies. I am sure it is not as cold in liffey valley that he had to keep the hoodie on. And as much as Ioathe women being covered, hoodie is not a religious, racial or any other necessity.


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    #34
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    They may wear burkas to stop their identification on crimeline photofit section, and wear hoodies for actually carrying out the crime


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    #35
    Red Kev
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    PLL wrote: »

    The guy should be allowed to wear his hoody up and not be judged as a potential criminal,in the same way a woman in a hijab should be free to wear it without the assumption she is or knows terrorists.

    Liffey Valley is privately owned, so they can set their own rules on code of dress, conduct etc. If they want hoodies down, that's their perogative.

    If yer man doesn't like it he should take his cash elsewhere, where he is "free to wear his hoody up".


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    #36
    Red Kev
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Red Kev


    Discodog wrote: »
    Well they used to. A friend of mine worked in London when all the Arabs were in town. He was a security guy for a major department store. He said that women were coming in, stuffing rails of clothes under their burkas & walking out. Security were under instruction not to touch them as some were close to the middle eastern ambassadors, apparently some were diplomats wives.

    He said one famous store used to just add the cost to the customers account.

    They used to try that stunt in France when I lived there in the 90's. Easy solution: they just employed a couple of female muslim security guards to pick the women up.

    They found out that pretty much all of them were either non-muslim, or if they were, they never wore the burqa in ordinary life. They got the publicity for it and the problem stopped straight away.


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    #37
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Red Kev wrote: »
    They used to try that stunt in France when I lived there in the 90's. Easy solution: they just employed a couple of female muslim security guards to pick the women up.

    They found out that pretty much all of them were either non-muslim, or if they were, they never wore the burqa in ordinary life. They got the publicity for it and the problem stopped straight away.

    What if Decco identifies as a female and wears a burka, who'd search her?


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    #38
    BunkMoreland
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 820 ✭✭✭BunkMoreland


    seamus wrote: »
    How often do women in hijabs shoplift in comparison to young fellas with their hoods up?.

    Well if you're going to use that logic, then how often do young fellas with their hoods act as suicde bombers?


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    #39
    spurious
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    BunkMoreland wrote: »
    Well if you're going to use that logic, then how often do young fellas with their hoods act as suicde bombers?

    I'd say shoplifting is a bit more common in Liffey Valley than suicide bombing.


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    #40
    AtomicHorror
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    spurious wrote: »
    I'd say shoplifting is a bit more common in Liffey Valley than suicide bombing.

    I'd say that probably holds true for all of... well, Earth.


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    #41
    prinzeugen
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    You can fit more under baggy clothes than a teen would inside his hood.

    http://youtu.be/572QlTVN4AI

    The words sausage and hallway come to mind..


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    #42
    mojesius
    Registered Users Posts: 4,322 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Liffey valley on a Saturday = pure hell.


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    #43
    elstingeo
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭elstingeo


    Security guards study body language and behaviour. Wearing a hooded top with the hood disguising your head aka your identity is a socially deviant behaviour whereas a veiled Muslim woman isn't due to the fact it is a religious belief and there is no need for worry or to be paranoid about her doing anything wrong regardless of your concern or opinions which are either based on the media or irrational worries about something you don't understand. Try not to think so deep and accept things at face value. I hope you enjoyed your time in liffey Valley.


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    #44
    222233
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    seamus wrote: »
    How often do women in hijabs shoplift in comparison to young fellas with their hoods up?

    It's not about equality it's about the simple fact that dodgy people wander around shopping centres with their hoods up. Normal people tend to take their hoods down indoors.

    Have you ever worked in retail? the people in hoodies aren't the ones you need to watch you would be so surprised at the people you see shoplifting - your neighbour, your teacher and everyone in between...


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    #45
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    seamus wrote: »
    How often do women in hijabs shoplift in comparison to young fellas with their hoods up?

    It's not about equality it's about the simple fact that dodgy people wander around shopping centres with their hoods up. Normal people tend to take their hoods down indoors.

    Like, what the actual lump?

    This is one of the most idiotic posts I have read on boards of late.

    "Ever feel the need to shoplift? Scientists have discovered that wearing a hoodie increases the chances you will shoplift by dippidy diddly doo doo percent. Scientists are still studying this odd phenomenon sweeping our nation... bla bla bla, more madeness... bla bla bla..."


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    #46
    MacauDragon
    Registered Users Posts: 217 ✭✭MacauDragon


    Stone her.


    Oh no wait we're civilized.


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    #47
    JackieBauer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭JackieBauer


    We just follow Britain constantly. Pricks like Blair/Brown/Cameron talk about most Muslims being alright (which they probably are) and let's face it, they all despise Muslims.

    I will say this publicly, the burka/hijab is degrading to women and has NO place in Ireland. Women can wear whatever the f.uck they want without religion dictating what they SHOULD wear. It's a simple solution - Islam is not compatible with western society. Let us have Europe, they can have North Africa and the Middle East. Simple solution but it should have been implemented 50 years ago. Too late now, I'm afraid


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    #48
    MrPudding
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    JackieBauer wrote: »
    We just follow Britain constantly. Pricks like Blair/Brown/Cameron talk about most Muslims being alright (which they probably are) and let's face it, they all despise Muslims.

    I will say this publicly, the burka/hijab is degrading to women and has NO place in Ireland. Women can wear whatever the f.uck they want without religion dictating what they SHOULD wear. It's a simple solution - Islam is not compatible with western society. Let us have Europe, they can have North Africa and the Middle East. Simple solution but it should have been implemented 50 years ago. Too late now, I'm afraid
    I am no supporter of the face veil, but what if that is what they want to wear?

    MrP


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    #49
    Spanish Eyes
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    OK, the full shebang like in Afghanistan under the Taliban could be worn by men. For the purposes of peace of course, nothing else really. Who knew?

    Would anyone challenge a full cover person to ask or find out if they are male or female?

    Anyway, how anyone could spend time in an oxygen deprived environment with crap food and rubbish shops in a shopping centre is totally beyond me.

    I will have Grafton Street/Mary Street anyday thank you, and fresh air and buskers and a bit of craic too. And a nice pub or two nearby to recover.


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    #50
    JupiterKid
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    I'm no great fan of shopping centres but Liffey Valley is utterly soulless.


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    #51
    Spanish Eyes
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I'm no great fan of shopping centres but Liffey Valley is utterly soulless.

    But it's packed day and night.

    Whoy?


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    #52
    Cienciano
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    JupiterKid wrote: »
    I'm no great fan of shopping centres but Liffey Valley is utterly soulless.

    Which shopping centre has a soul?


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    #53
    MilesMorales1
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    Which shopping centre has a soul?

    Well you get some that are nicer than others.


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    #54
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    But it's packed day and night.

    Whoy?

    Saves turning the heating on at home


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    #55
    Spanish Eyes
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    stoplooklisten wrote: »
    Saves turning the heating on at home

    But what about the cost of getting there and all the rest of it. That would heat the house for hours!

    Then again, free travel is for the favoured few. Ah go on says you, that wouldn't happen in Dundrum lol. Would it?


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    #56
    Laneyh
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    So you saw a security person doing their job and you were disconcerted by this?


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    #57
    AnonoBoy
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    Which shopping centre has a soul?

    Any that are situated in South Korea's capital.


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    #58
    hmmm
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    They do a good job in Liffey Valley from what I've seen, and there are some pretty sketchy areas nearby so I'm sure they have their work cut out. It would put a lot of people off shopping in a place if there was a bunch of teens hanging around with hoodies up.


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    #59
    Dyr
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    Cienciano wrote: »
    Which shopping centre has a soul?

    https://www.facebook.com/Crumlinshopingcentre/?fref=ts


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    #60
    [Deleted User]
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    The OP has got me thinking - I'm going to buy a hijab and go on a shopping spree. With the proper placement of zippers and pockets I imagine I could carry quite a haul.


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    #61
    thattequilagirl
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    JackieBauer wrote: »
    We just follow Britain constantly. Pricks like Blair/Brown/Cameron talk about most Muslims being alright (which they probably are) and let's face it, they all despise Muslims.

    I will say this publicly, the burka/hijab is degrading to women and has NO place in Ireland. Women can wear whatever the f.uck they want without religion dictating what they SHOULD wear. It's a simple solution - Islam is not compatible with western society. Let us have Europe, they can have North Africa and the Middle East. Simple solution but it should have been implemented 50 years ago. Too late now, I'm afraid

    I have a Muslim friend who didn't cover her hair growing up as a teen/young adult. In her 30s she decided she wanted to feel closer to her religion, so she started wearing a headscarf.

    Would you support her decision, as an adult woman who isn't being pressured by either her family or her culture to do so?


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