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    #1502
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Mrs cockett wrote: »
    Did they write to tell you this, Lady

    Yes, came in the post the other day, sent it to our adviser & he said just do nout so :confused:


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    #1503
    ruwithme
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Public consultation opened today on the proposed agri environment scheme (pilot)

    Sorry unable to post link. Its on agriland. Closing date for it is 26th February. Would there be any benefit to have a thread started specifically for suggestions only,no chit chat,as to what people believe would be good actions/rules in any new scheme. Would this work & could then be submitted before the deadline by moderator's.


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    #1504
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,435 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
    Any tips?

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #1505
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    StevenToast wrote: »
    Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
    Any tips?
    Very much depends what the issue is and how strong your case is.


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    #1506
    I says
    Registered Users Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭I says


    StevenToast wrote: »
    Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
    Any tips?

    I did


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    #1507
    k mac
    Registered Users Posts: 646 ✭✭✭k mac


    With the extension of the contract for GLAS for this year the contract ends on the 31st of December. Does that mean that all measures cease on that date? For instance you are allowed to graze wild bird cover areas from the 15th of March most years, but if your contract ends the end of December can it now be grazed from the 01st of January 2022. Would be doubtful i think. Be very handy for outwintering some stock and not have to worry about them ripping up the ground, as it will be ploughed and reseeded later anyway.


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    #1508
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    Have to maintain it till 15/3/22


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    #1509
    80sDiesel
    Registered Users Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    So will there be a new scheme in place for ‘22 ?

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



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    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    80sDiesel wrote: »
    So will there be a new scheme in place for ‘22 ?

    New scheme in 2023


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    #1511
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,231 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If you signed Ext, WBC finishes on 15/03/23. We know little about the proposed scheme yet. The pilot being planned for this year and next will be good indicators.
    A key point is that the scheme will need measureable indicators and show improvement on them. So, to me that looks like a few visits from an 'expert'. Presume your own planner + % inspected.


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    #1512
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Water John wrote: »
    If you signed Ext, WBC finishes on 15/03/23. We know little about the proposed scheme yet. The pilot being planned for this year and next will be good indicators.
    A key point is that the scheme will need measureable indicators and show improvement on them. So, to me that looks like a few visits from an 'expert'. Presume your own planner + % inspected.

    Does WBC for Glas 3 finish then too?


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    #1513
    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    GLAS 3 WBC finishes on 15/3/22


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    #1514
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,231 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    zetor 4911 wrote: »
    GLAS 3 WBC finishes on 15/3/22

    So the GLAS ext is for one year? Presume they'll extend again so there's no gap between the two schemes.


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    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    Water John wrote: »
    So the GLAS ext is for one year? Presume they'll extend again so there's no gap between the two schemes.

    Probably will


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    #1516
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Just a reminder that ye can let livestock into graze your WBC on the 15th of March.


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    #1517
    Tileman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Base price wrote: »
    Just a reminder that ye can let livestock into graze your WBC on the 15th of March.

    Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?


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    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,231 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Tileman wrote: »
    Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

    Yes TMK, no reason not to.
    My stores will get to it Mon/Tues.


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    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Tileman wrote: »
    Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?
    Yes you can but within the normal limitations of amounts of nitrates per ha. There is a restriction of 40kg/ha for artificial/chemical Nitrogen.


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    #1520
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,231 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I think Base can recite the regs in her sleep at this point.


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    #1521
    Dunedin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Tileman wrote: »
    Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

    Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!


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    #1522
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!
    TBH €900/ha per year is nothing to be sniffed at.
    We used chemical fertilizer on the WBC after sowing for the first two years cause the scheme was new to us and wanted to ensure that the crop struck and grew. Since then we spread a few loads of slurry from the lagoon after disking and it saves us buying bags of artificial.


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    #1523
    Tileman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Dunedin wrote: »
    Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!

    Ah it’s just to improve the soil fertility. Have access to feee south from a neighbour.


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    zetor 4911
    Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭zetor 4911


    Tileman wrote: »
    Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

    Nee to look at your soil sample results and see what index the soil is at for phosphorous if index 4 no slurry


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    #1525
    Tileman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Tileman


    zetor 4911 wrote: »
    Nee to look at your soil sample results and see what index the soil is at for phosphorous if index 4 no slurry

    Ok thanks. Good call out. I’ll check that


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    #1526
    Dunedin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    Base price wrote: »
    TBH €900/ha per year is nothing to be sniffed at.
    We used chemical fertilizer on the WBC after sowing for the first two years cause the scheme was new to us and wanted to ensure that the crop struck and grew. Since then we spread a few loads of slurry from the lagoon after disking and it saves us buying bags of artificial.

    I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........


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    #1527
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,518 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Kale is a starved hoor of a crop on ground.


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    #1528
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,191 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Dunedin wrote: »
    I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........
    I normally manage to get it rolled but didn't 2 years ago cause it started to rain as we were spreading the linseed and phacelia seed. It continued to rain for about a week and it never got rolled - it didn't seem to make much difference as it all struck well and grew.


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    #1529
    Tileman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Dunedin wrote: »
    I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........

    Yea that pretty sums up my experience.


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    #1530
    lab man
    Registered Users Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭lab man


    Tileman wrote: »
    Yea that pretty sums up my experience.

    And rightly so any crowd that said bees would go into wet sand ... the mind boggles


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    #1531
    Qprmeath
    Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Qprmeath


    Has anyone ever had a sanction imposed by a Glas inspector? I was removed from the scheme in 2018 as inspector wasn’t happy with my catch crops. Going to the appeals committee next week. Just wondering has anyone experience of this?


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