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Muckit

There may be some interest in setting this up to help with any GLAS related items.

My questions (although not exclusively glas related) are as follows:

I have LIPP and l am trying to work out in real terms what chemical N l am allowed to put out.

So far l've converted the 40kg/ha limit to kg/acre which works put @ 16.19kg/acre.

Now take say a 50kg bag of CAN. That's 27%N so am l right in saying this works out @ 13.5kg? So really a bag of CAN is all that is allowed/annum?

Or if spreading typical compound like 18-6-12 that 1.5bags/acre can be comfortably spread?

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Lady Haywire

Mrs cockett wrote: »

Did they write to tell you this, Lady

Yes, came in the post the other day, sent it to our adviser & he said just do nout so

ruwithme

Public consultation opened today on the proposed agri environment scheme (pilot)

Sorry unable to post link. Its on agriland. Closing date for it is 26th February. Would there be any benefit to have a thread started specifically for suggestions only,no chit chat,as to what people believe would be good actions/rules in any new scheme. Would this work & could then be submitted before the deadline by moderator's.

StevenToast

Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
Any tips?

zetor 4911

StevenToast wrote: »

Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
Any tips?

Very much depends what the issue is and how strong your case is.

I says

StevenToast wrote: »

Has anyone gone through an appeal and been successful?
Any tips?

I did

k mac

With the extension of the contract for GLAS for this year the contract ends on the 31st of December. Does that mean that all measures cease on that date? For instance you are allowed to graze wild bird cover areas from the 15th of March most years, but if your contract ends the end of December can it now be grazed from the 01st of January 2022. Would be doubtful i think. Be very handy for outwintering some stock and not have to worry about them ripping up the ground, as it will be ploughed and reseeded later anyway.

zetor 4911

Have to maintain it till 15/3/22

80sDiesel

So will there be a new scheme in place for ‘22 ?

zetor 4911

80sDiesel wrote: »

So will there be a new scheme in place for ‘22 ?

New scheme in 2023

Water John

If you signed Ext, WBC finishes on 15/03/23. We know little about the proposed scheme yet. The pilot being planned for this year and next will be good indicators.
A key point is that the scheme will need measureable indicators and show improvement on them. So, to me that looks like a few visits from an 'expert'. Presume your own planner + % inspected.

Hard Knocks

Water John wrote: »

If you signed Ext, WBC finishes on 15/03/23. We know little about the proposed scheme yet. The pilot being planned for this year and next will be good indicators.
A key point is that the scheme will need measureable indicators and show improvement on them. So, to me that looks like a few visits from an 'expert'. Presume your own planner + % inspected.

Does WBC for Glas 3 finish then too?

zetor 4911

GLAS 3 WBC finishes on 15/3/22

Water John

zetor 4911 wrote: »

GLAS 3 WBC finishes on 15/3/22

So the GLAS ext is for one year? Presume they'll extend again so there's no gap between the two schemes.

zetor 4911

Water John wrote: »

So the GLAS ext is for one year? Presume they'll extend again so there's no gap between the two schemes.

Probably will

Base price

Just a reminder that ye can let livestock into graze your WBC on the 15th of March.

Tileman

Base price wrote: »

Just a reminder that ye can let livestock into graze your WBC on the 15th of March.

Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

Water John

Tileman wrote: »

Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

Yes TMK, no reason not to.
My stores will get to it Mon/Tues.

Base price

Tileman wrote: »

Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

Yes you can but within the normal limitations of amounts of nitrates per ha. There is a restriction of 40kg/ha for artificial/chemical Nitrogen.

Water John

I think Base can recite the regs in her sleep at this point.

Dunedin

Tileman wrote: »

Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!

Base price

Dunedin wrote: »

Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!

TBH €900/ha per year is nothing to be sniffed at.
We used chemical fertilizer on the WBC after sowing for the first two years cause the scheme was new to us and wanted to ensure that the crop struck and grew. Since then we spread a few loads of slurry from the lagoon after disking and it saves us buying bags of artificial.

Tileman

Dunedin wrote: »

Be an awful waste of good slurry!!!!

Ah it’s just to improve the soil fertility. Have access to feee south from a neighbour.

zetor 4911

Tileman wrote: »

Can u put slurry on the wbc ground before planting?

Nee to look at your soil sample results and see what index the soil is at for phosphorous if index 4 no slurry

Tileman

zetor 4911 wrote: »

Nee to look at your soil sample results and see what index the soil is at for phosphorous if index 4 no slurry

Ok thanks. Good call out. I’ll check that

Dunedin

Base price wrote: »

TBH €900/ha per year is nothing to be sniffed at.
We used chemical fertilizer on the WBC after sowing for the first two years cause the scheme was new to us and wanted to ensure that the crop struck and grew. Since then we spread a few loads of slurry from the lagoon after disking and it saves us buying bags of artificial.

I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........

Danzy

Kale is a starved hoor of a crop on ground.

Base price

Dunedin wrote: »

I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........

I normally manage to get it rolled but didn't 2 years ago cause it started to rain as we were spreading the linseed and phacelia seed. It continued to rain for about a week and it never got rolled - it didn't seem to make much difference as it all struck well and grew.

Tileman

Dunedin wrote: »

I think everyone gave it a lot of TLC the first year or two then it was a quick disking, fire out the seed with the fertiliser shaker and close the gate and whatever grew grew after that. Might get a rolling if not too busy or it might not........

Yea that pretty sums up my experience.

lab man

Tileman wrote: »

Yea that pretty sums up my experience.

And rightly so any crowd that said bees would go into wet sand ... the mind boggles

Qprmeath

Has anyone ever had a sanction imposed by a Glas inspector? I was removed from the scheme in 2018 as inspector wasn’t happy with my catch crops. Going to the appeals committee next week. Just wondering has anyone experience of this?