GLAS thread

Water John

Base, if its WC you're looking for Elmer. It's to my email they replied.

feartuath

Just in from sowing mine before the rain.
Seed came from Rathcormac as before,I find it very good for holding small birds and wild phesants.
It helps because there is no tillage around here so they have no where else to go.

Rushy Fields

Just wondering can someone tell me how much Oats and Linseed do i need for 3 Acres?
Too lazy to looking for my books!
Thanks

Hard Knocks

Rushy Fields wrote: »

Just wondering can someone tell me how much Oats and Linseed do i need for 3 Acres?
Too lazy to looking for my books!
Thanks

Some stores sell premixed bags to suit an acre

bbeeforsalmon

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Some stores sell premixed bags to suit an acre

This is Glas1. Depends on if drilling or broadcasting

Thepillowman

Anyone still waiting on balancing payment?

Water John

I use 4 bags oats and 15kg mustard. I'm throwing in 3kg of annual bee flowers as well, for the bees and colour.

Tileman

Thepillowman wrote: »

Anyone still waiting on balancing payment?

Yep

keepalive213

Any glas inspections going on?

TooOldBoots

keepalive213 wrote: »

Any glas inspections going on?

Satellite inspections only, but they can get very detailed images from the sky

MIKEKC

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Satellite inspections only, but they can get very detailed images from the sky

Wonder will they see what's missing on a lot of farms ?

Base price

Water John wrote: »

If it's the one in West Cork, email them again. I think they were over run with orders. Took me a while to get a response but they did ring back following an email.
Or check this guy
https://rathcormacgunclub.com/product/wildflower-meadow-mix/

Thankfully Manfred (Fruit Hill Farm) phoned me on Thursday and confirmed my order of 4 kgs of Phacelia and 5kgs of Buckwheat seed - cost is c.€100 delivered which unfortunately is dearer than last year. Anyway the seed has been dispatched and should arrive early this week in time for planting our WBC, hopefully the bees/pollinators appreciate the extra cost involved?????

As an aside, I really enjoy walking through our WBC on a Sunday morning with the dogs after it flowers and seeing all the pollinators - bees/hoverflies/butterflies and other insects feeding on the flower heads.
If anyone is interested in learning about our different pollinators I would recommend they join this Facebook page - Insects/Invertebrates of Ireland.

Danzy

Base price wrote: »

Thankfully Manfred (Fruit Hill Farm) phoned me on Thursday and confirmed my order of 4 kgs of Phacelia and 5kgs of Buckwheat seed - cost is c.€100 delivered which unfortunately is dearer than last year. Anyway the seed has been dispatched and should arrive early this week in time for planting our WBC, hopefully the bees/pollinators appreciate the extra cost involved?????

As an aside, I really enjoy walking through our WBC on a Sunday morning with the dogs after it flowers and seeing all the pollinators - bees/hoverflies/butterflies and other insects feeding on the flower heads.
If anyone is interested in learning about our different pollinators I would recommend they join this Facebook page - Insects/Invertebrates of Ireland.

I love looking at the pollen from the WBC plants when I do hive inspections.

Base price

Danzy wrote: »

I love looking at the pollen from the WBC plants when I do hive inspections.

How do you know the different pollen.

k mac

Is this the last year of Glas. I am in Glas 2 and joined in 2016. I thought it was finished this year but the seed merchant I got the wild bird cover says there is another year. Maybe wishful thinking on his part:)

endainoz

k mac wrote: »

Is this the last year of Glas. I am in Glas 2 and joined in 2016. I thought it was finished this year but the seed merchant I got the wild bird cover says there is another year. Maybe wishful thinking on his part:)

I'm in glas 3 on year 4 so that would make sense.

Water John

The scheme will almost certainly be extended as the EU is late with its Ag review. Probably one or two years added and optional. They cannot extend your Glas Scheme unilaterally as it's a contract between the Dept of Ag and you.
The difficulty is the rigidity of the scheme, none of the WBC, permanent grassland or meadow can be moved.

High bike

Water John wrote: »

The scheme will almost certainly be extended as the EU is late with its Ag review. Probably one or two years added and optional. They cannot extend your Glas Scheme unilaterally as it's a contract between the Dept of Ag and you.
The difficulty is the rigidity of the scheme, none of the WBC, permanent grassland or meadow can be moved.

what date does it actually end is it October?

Danzy

Base price wrote: »

How do you know the different pollen.

Colour usually, Phacelia is a purple bluish colour.

I watch what they are working and see it in the frames, also lot of online examples and pics to guide.

Danzy

endainoz wrote: »

I'm in glas 3 on year 4 so that would make sense.

So your last crop will be set Spring 21 and let to March 22?

Water John

Water John wrote: »

The scheme will almost certainly be extended as the EU is late with its Ag review. Probably one or two years added and optional. They cannot extend your Glas Scheme unilaterally as it's a contract between the Dept of Ag and you.
The difficulty is the rigidity of the scheme, none of the WBC, permanent grassland or meadow can be moved.

With the coronavirus effect on the economy I'd wonder about a GLAS extension. Remember it's part funded by the taxpayer here.

sonnybill

I was told no extension , new agri environmental scheme to be announced early 2021

Danzy

sonnybill wrote: »

I was told no extension , new agri environmental scheme to be announced early 2021

Agri environmental schemes are going to be the big things in farming now, rye EU plans for next decade are looking like a major change in farming.

sonnybill

sonnybill wrote: »

I was told no extension , new agri environmental scheme to be announced early 2021

Who told ya? (Someone had to ask...)

Danzy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who told ya? (Someone had to ask...)

Glas won't be renewed but it will be replaced by something similar.

Danzy

Danzy wrote: »

Glas won't be renewed but it will be replaced by something similar.

Apologies, I could be missing something obvious (lack of sleep) but has that been announced officially?

Danzy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Apologies, I could be missing something obvious (lack of sleep) but has that been announced officially?

No but word from the EU agri groups is an aggressive push ahead of these schemes in next decade.

Very aggressive according to the journal and others.

20% reduction in fertiliser, 50% reduction in herbicide, 25% target for Organic farms in the EU.

Danzy

Danzy wrote: »

No but word from the EU agri groups is an aggressive push ahead of these schemes in next decade.

Very aggressive according to the journal and others.

20% reduction in fertiliser, 50% reduction in herbicide, 25% target for Organic farms in the EU.

For a change I'll be in the I'm alright Jack camp! Bough 0 fertiliser this year, plan no future purchases. Use little to no herbicide anyway. I've been waiting to get my filthy hands on a fat organics payment!

Danzy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For a change I'll be in the I'm alright Jack camp! Bough 0 fertiliser this year, plan no future purchases. Use little to no herbicide anyway. I've been waiting to get my filthy hands on a fat organics payment!

Same here, use some fertilizers but very little.

See this as a good thing for the price of cattle.

Are you mob grazing or just stocking for it, back fencing etc.

endainoz

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For a change I'll be in the I'm alright Jack camp! Bough 0 fertiliser this year, plan no future purchases. Use little to no herbicide anyway. I've been waiting to get my filthy hands on a fat organics payment!

That fat organics payment is nice and all, but you do offset a decent chunk of it on bedding, and I made a few purchases already such as a buck take to get rid of the dung. I reckon it was about two hours extra labour a week when taking bedding into consideration. That said, I can get a grant for a loader and a dung fork so hope to have that sorted for next winter. But of course you save on fertilizers and herbicides too, so overall it's definitely worth my while doing it.

The scheme will surely be opening again very soon and the huge amount of people that were rejected last time should be considered first.