Car for 18 year old

amiasb

colm_mcm wrote:

Get an S15 Silvia.

Thatd be double wouldnt it?? 😂

colm_mcm

Easily, but you may as well do it right.

Stheno

amiasb wrote: »

what do you mean??

You're coming across as a typical boy racer.

For an altezza etc, you'd be looking at 5k plus insurance.

Get your licence, get a small 1.0 car for a year or two, build up a no claims, and then start thinking about what you'd really like to drive.

amiasb

Stheno wrote: »

You're coming across as a typical boy racer.

For an altezza etc, you'd be looking at 5k plus insurance.

Get your licence, get a small 1.0 car for a year or two, build up a no claims, and then start thinking about what you'd really like to drive.

does it have to be a 1.0L or could i go 1.4L for example?

Stheno

amiasb wrote: »

does it have to be a 1.0L or could i go 1.4L for example?

For sure you can, if you want to double or treble your car insurance premium.

So say 2k for a 1.0, perhaps four for a 1.4 if you are lucky?

Why do you need a car anyway?

colm_mcm

The other thing, and this will sound very boring, but do you want to have such a big financial millstone at 18? 400-500 a month on insurance? €5k+ tied up in a car?
I don't have many regrets, but buying a new car when I was your age was one of them. Insurance was cheaper back then, but I spent the money you're potentially talking about on car payments. You won't get significantly more girls from having a car, you won't be able to drink if you have the car with you, you'll potentially spend a huge chunk of your income on petrol/tax/insurance, you have to have a licensed driver with you, and worst of all, you might pass up nice things like college or travel because you're married to your car.

nerobert

Amiasb

I'm 18 and recently started driving. You basically NEED to have a 1 - 1.2 litre car, and even then it's still gonna be expensive. I was determined to get a golf but still got quoted crazy money. You're better off getting a small cheap low powered car to make your mistakes in. I got a Peugeot 206 1.1 litre and I'm still paying 3300 for the privilege of driving it.

amiasb

Sick and tired of asking people to give me a lift and considering that most people i know live up to 45 min away and i cant be asking mam to drive there and back with the baby as well

colm_mcm

Are you planning on living at home for the next few years?

Do you have a baby too? Or did I pick that up all wrong

amiasb

Its my mums baby so its my baby sister and yeah i do plan on living at home for the next couple of years

dev100

The joys of insurance  unless mammy and daddy footing the bill for your insurance think 1 litre 3 cylinder hairdyer You will be loaded to the hilt for anything that resembles fast and furious type cars anything with sport or any sort of turbo written on the log book .

My oul fella went from a tdi golf to a Mazda 3 1.6tdi sport and they loaded him . Think they wanted 850 and he ain't a young man either told him it was the type car he was buying that his insurance had went up .

Also insurance has gone up drastically too.

As other posters have said save your money . Talk to your mum about getting insured on her car and building up NBC that way it ll be 3 or 4 K for third party for a small car . Don't worry about the drifting . Tires ain't cheap

Stheno

amiasb wrote: »

Its my mums baby so its my baby sister and yeah i do plan on living at home for the next couple of years

Do you need a car to get to work or college? Or are you wanting one so you don't need to rely on public transport/lifts?

amiasb

Stheno wrote:

Do you need a car to get to work or college? Or are you wanting one so you don't need to rely on public transport/lifts?

Work

Stheno

amiasb wrote: »

Work

Right so get a quote for a small 1.0 car and work on from there.

irishmover

You really need to take everyone's advice on this.

I started off on a ****ty Hyundai accent and had great fun in it. Sure it's not fast but it was cheap and a laugh with my mates around your age.

You dont need to show off to anyone. Get a cheap car in the early 00's. 1l or no more than 1.2l. Learn to drive in it. Be careful and in a few years time you can get a faster car if you still want to.

I'm almost 28 and I've only just got myself a car with a turbo in it/have started doing some mods. There's nothing wrong with that at all and I'm glad I did it as with the sort of speeds my new car can get I'd seriously struggle to control it with less than a years experience.

Stinicker

Man young lads today have it tough, I got a BMW 3 series when I was 19, I had learned to drive in my fathers corolla when I was 18 from driving around fields and on private farm roads. He bought me the BMW and we got it insured at the time for €1,100. I will say one thing that the car has been great and it thought me a good few life lessons, like how expensive Petrol and running a car is. I later converted to LPG due to this.

My advice is like the others have said get something small and don't be a boyracer. Yes I was lucky but times were different back then.

uck51js9zml2yt

Reading your posts makes me feel you should stick to going out to Bray to the bumper cars.

18_years old, wants a big car to go off road with..recipe for disaster..

Handsome Brute

nerobert wrote: »

Amiasb

I'm 18 and recently started driving. You basically NEED to have a 1 - 1.2 litre car, and even then it's still gonna be expensive. I was determined to get a golf but still got quoted crazy money. You're better off getting a small cheap low powered car to make your mistakes in. I got a Peugeot 206 1.1 litre and I'm still paying 3300 for the privilege of driving it.

3300 Jesus! My brother is 18 and he is insured on a 1.6 TDI Jetta for 2750 with a full licence full comprehensive.

Stheno

ilikesubway wrote: »

3300 Jesus! My brother is 18 and he is insured on a 1.6 TDI Jetta for 2750 with a full licence full comprehensive.

OP doesn't have a full licence.

tomo92

You would be lucky to even get quoted for a lancer for your first car at 18 and if you did it would be mad money, when I started driving 6 years ago, being young and stupid I bought a civic (only a 1.4) paid 4000 insurance with Quinn insurance and that was the cheapest!! Now I've a couple NCB and a full license I got me insurance this year for 500 the difference is unreal, oh and when you're looking at a car ring up every insurance company there is because I know someone that just got a micra and is paying 2800 with axa.

flazio

Listen, if you want a bit of street cred while learning to drive, check out this car. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-seicento-sporting-low-mileage-/11644398
Funky colour, cheap to tax, maintain and relatively (still going to be in four figures) cheap to insure.
What we're all worried about here is as a potential "drifter" are you going to be out at all hours of the nights leaving ugly donuts on our public roads and then ploughing into a pedestrian who you never expected to be out at that hour of the night.

KrakityJones

Just throwing my few cents in on this.

You're young, mad keen to get out driving and of course you want something cool. You might be the safest fella out there and a prodigy of a driver, but unfortunately you're going to be categorized the same as other young drivers, so you'll have to accept the fact that you're either going to have to spend mental money to get something close to what you want, or you'll have to make do with something smaller and cheaper for now.

Why not just go for something modest and cheap, build up some experience and prove to the insurance people and everyone else that you are a good driver. Treat yourself to a nice Impreza or Evo when the time is right.

Plus the money you'll save on insurance would get you a couple of trips to somewhere like Rally Connection in waterford - 150 quid a trip and you'll get to drive the billox out of a rwd escort in a perfectly safe environment - get it out of your system and have some fun at the same time.

Aside from the high mileage what about something like this: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-ibiza/11708669 - 1.2 litre , modern enough that brakes/handling would be decent and airbags etc for safety, and not a bad looking car either

eeguy

Buy a cheap 1.0 litre corsa, clio, fiesta, etc.

I know they're not much to look at, but all you'll get from insurers are astronomical f*ck off quotes if you want anything else. My first insurance was 2.2k with Quinn for a 1.0 litre Corsa, much more than I paid for the car.

Forget about drifting and the like until you have a few years NCB.

eeguy

flazio wrote: »

Listen, if you want a bit of street cred while learning to drive, check out this car. https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/fiat-seicento-sporting-low-mileage-/11644398
Funky colour, cheap to tax, maintain and relatively (still going to be in four figures) cheap to insure.

Make sure you have a friend to lean out the window to shout at the bus w*nkers. Get a red door for full effect.

flazio

eeguy wrote: »

Make sure you have a friend to lean out the window to shout at the bus w*nkers. Get a red door for full effect.

Actually now that you mention it
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/inbetweeners-car/11558742
The one in the first ad is a higher spec though.

colm_mcm

not sure a seicento is suitable for 45 minute journeys though. they are very flimsy when crashed. they are cool though.

ianobrien

OP, to echo what others have said, get a small, ideally sub 1.0 hatchback. The insurance will be cheaper and learn to drive. For learning car control, forget about doing it anywhere near a public road and go join the local motor club. You will learn how to properly control a car through motorsport. You'll learn there to forget about using your everyday car for competition (you'll bend it!).

If you are still thinking of going drifting, do it properly, get a proper drift car and go compete. I'm involved in rallying and I'm sick and tired of cleaning up the mess left by boy racers messing/drifting on public roads. The residents, communities and Garda generally don't want rallying in an area as it attracts these idiots like flies to sh1te.

Also, sorry to burst your bubble, but no you are not a driving God. When you start out, you'll make loads of mistakes and a cheap car to repair is what you want. I'm involved in motorsport for almost 20 years and in terms of results, I can't drive a nail!

biko

As everyone else have said, and will keep saying:
Get a Micra or similar for 2 years, build up NCB and build up experience. At the same time save up for a hotter car.

A Micra isn't going to get you laid but then again it's better than nothing (which is your alternative).

Mycroft H

colm_mcm wrote: »

not sure a seicento is suitable for 45 minute journeys though. they are very flimsy when crashed. they are cool though.

A friend crashed one. The spare wheel actually stopped the rear from crumpling further.

shannonman81

colm_mcm wrote: »

not sure a seicento is suitable for 45 minute journeys though. they are very flimsy when crashed. they are cool though.

My ex had one. Regularly drove it from Dublin to Shannon and back...
The thing was like a go kart. She loved it. Took to Newcastle with her when she moved but I think it packed it in shortly after.