Gameweek 31 Matchday Thread

CSF

I haven't sent an email or anything, but I don't get the 'get a grip' arguments. Why shouldn't people question decisions that go completely outside the rules?

km79

villa are pushing again

CSF

Torricelli wrote: »

A Williams substitution would be a thing of beauty.

I agree

km79

I'm still don't get the basis of that not being an assist
after 10 replays I still don't think he even touched it others do
but one things for sure if he did touch it he did not significantly alter the direction of the ball so it's an assist

stephenl15

CSF wrote: »

I haven't sent an email or anything, but I don't get the 'get a grip' arguments. Why shouldn't people question decisions that go completely outside the rules?

Because it's just one of those things. Could be argued either way. You could say that the direction of the ball wasn't significantly changed. Assists aren't always gonna be clear cut.

CSF

km79 wrote: »

I'm still don't get the basis of that not being an assist
after 10 replays I still don't think he even touched it others do
but one things for sure if he did touch it he did not significantly alter the direction of the ball so it's an assist

Pretty sure that isn't how the rule works. I get that you really want an assist here but by the letter of the law it is not.

stephenl15

CSF wrote: »

Pretty sure that isn't how the rule works. I get that you really want an assist here but by the letter of the law it is not.

I don't really. And I don't think it was an assist. One of the guys here behind me in mini league has him captain :P but I just think these things are gonna happen over the course of the season you just gotta get on with it.

CSF

stephenl15 wrote: »

Because it's just one of those things. Could be argued either way. You could say that the direction of the ball wasn't significantly changed. Assists aren't always gonna be clear cut.

By the rules and their implementation it isn't an assist. I'm ok with one thing being an assist and not others but there has to be consistency.

km79

CSF wrote: »

Pretty sure that isn't how the rule works. I get that you really want an assist here but by the letter of the law it is not.

basing it on this if it's correct
"If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded.

Rebounds
If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded."

I believe the first sentence is more about, if a defender puts a lot in and slides it at 90 degrees to an on rushing defender. The second paragraph clearly states that a goalie blocking a shot does not mean the original shooter should granted an assist.

CSF

stephenl15 wrote: »

I don't really. One of the guys here behind me in mini league has him captain :P

That one wasn't for you!!

CSF

km79 wrote: »

basing it on this if it's correct
"If an opposing player touches the ball after the final pass before a goal is scored, significantly altering the intended destination of the ball, then no assist is awarded.

Rebounds
If a shot on goal is blocked by an opposition player, is saved by a goalkeeper or hits the woodwork, and a goal is scored from the rebound, then an assist is awarded."

I believe the first sentence is more about, if a defender puts a lot in and slides it at 90 degrees to an on rushing defender. The second paragraph clearly states that a goalie blocking a shot does not mean the original shooter should granted an assist.

This was a cross, not a shot. See Adam Smith v Swansea.

stephenl15

CSF wrote: »

That one wasn't for you!!

Haha no prob. dunno what I was looking at my bad

Ziegler1988

If someone on Villa could dribble a shot at Fabianski for the save point.
That'd be great

km79

CSF wrote: »

This was a cross, not a shot. See Adam Smith v Swansea.

final pass = cross
I haven't seen the smith one actually and I have him !

CSF

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

If someone on Villa could dribble a shot at Fabianski for the save point.
That'd be great

Then it'd be a pass

Ziegler1988

Dugout isn't giving the assist to Siggy so it will be one of FPL's judgment "intended target" "not significant deflection" decisions if it stands

CSF

km79 wrote: »

final pass = cross
I haven't seen the smith one actually and I have him !

It's pretty much the same thing, with the key difference being that Smith wasn't right beside the keeper like Fernandez was. I see nothing in the rules to account for a difference there. So they can't just be making it up as they go along. I've no problem with ones like that being an assist, but it has to be consistent.

CSF

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Dugout isn't giving the assist to Siggy so it will be one of FPL's judgment "intended target" "not significant deflection" decisions if it stands

What's dugout?

Ziegler1988

CSF wrote: »

What's dugout?

Dugoutfc.com
Draft site I use. They only give assists for pure ones

km79

CSF wrote: »

What's dugout?

yeah cos I need to shut it down immediately

Lemlin

My rival triple captained Kane!

It's on bitches!

Lights On

You know it's a ****e match when the only talking point is if it's an assist or not :pac:

stephenl15

Lights On wrote: »

You know it's a ****e match when the only talking point is if it's an assist or not :pac:

Most heated debate all season in fairness :P

Scorpion Sting

Lights On wrote: »

You know it's a ****e match when the only talking point is if it's an assist or not :pac:

It's Villa, not a huge surprise.

km79

I'll tell ya one thing I'm relived thats over cos siggy was a walking red card
slipping and sliding into tackles on a yellow!

IsMiseMyself

I don't know why I watched all 90 minutes of that game.

spock.

FT 1-0

Stressful match to watch.
18 from Siggy(c) and Williams is ok.

the groutch

stephenl15 wrote: »

Most heated debate all season in fairness :P

Deulofeu would disagree

Ziegler1988

61 after baps with PVA, Eriksen, Kane, Aguero to go unless SiggyGate goes other way

KevIRL

35 from 5 if Rangel can hold onto his bonus point. My 3 defenders chipping in with 25 points today.

Willian 1 point the only negative.