What do you want from a blog? [no names please]

scarbouro

I've heard that line a lot lately from a few bloggers in particular and I'm left scratching my head! What kind of a remark is that?! They only want people to bow at their feet and worship them.. Say everything is about them is fabulous and they're just brilliant. Unfortunately thats not how the world works.

God love them when their blogging years have expired and they have to enter the real world again!

karensgal

StripedBoxers wrote: »

Can someone PM me who put up the post of the carb belly? I've checked a few who I thought it might be and can't find it.

Chloe Boucher is stunningly gorgeous, doesn't take herself too seriously either which I like.

Would be interested to know who this is too.

Hopeful2016

karensgal wrote: »

Would be interested to know who this is too.

Check out the Instagram accounts of a few of the higher profile Irish bloggers and have a quick look back through their posts from the last few days....

Edit to say need to go back a week.

dudara

on_my_oe wrote: »

Saw a Twitter comment today about Irish blogging which makes me feel uncomfortable.

"If you don't like it, don't comment" Positive vibes only girls!"

There's a big difference between trolling and constructive criticism, or indeed asking a question.

"Positive vibes only girls" is akin to sticking your head in the sand IMO. If readers left fair, constructive comments, that would be great. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that some readers have not been thinking about their comments, hence this overblown backlash. It's a bit of a vicious circle.

When Conor McGregor was fighting, the comments left on his Instragram were ridiculously partisan on both sides. It would discourage anyone with a moderate view from posting. Unfortunately, that seems to be the way social media posting/commenting is going.

scarbouro

Well done to Pippa! Delighted for her winning best blogger tonight.

Stheno

scarbouro wrote: »

Well done to Pippa! Delighted for her winning best blogger tonight.

Did she have that post in the indo recently about how mothers shouldn't let themselves go?

retro:electro

Stheno wrote: »

Did she have that post in the indo recently about how mothers shouldn't let themselves go?

I think she's since clarified that and said her comments were taken totally out of context. She never said mothers shouldn't let themselves go; she was asked what she does to keep herself feeling good and she said she likes to get her hair and nails done etc etc. The indo picked up on those comments and used them totally out of context to sell the paper.

Stheno

anna080 wrote: »

I think she's since clarified that and said her comments were taken totally out of context. She never said mothers shouldn't let themselves go; she was asked what she does to keep herself feeling good and she said she likes to get her hair and nails done etc etc. The indo picked up on those comments and used them totally out of context to sell the paper.

Ah fair enough so

scarbouro

Stheno wrote: »

Did she have that post in the indo recently about how mothers shouldn't let themselves go?

No that whole saga was the newspapers twisting her words and made her out to be a complete b#t@h. That wasn't what she said at all. If you read the article you would know that. She also issued a statement about the whole thing on her Facebook page.

Stheno

scarbouro wrote: »

No that whole saga was the newspapers twisting her words and made her out to be a complete b#t@h. That wasn't what she said at all. If you read the article you would know that. She also issued a statement about the whole thing on her Facebook page.

See the two posts above

bridgettedon

anna080 wrote: »

I think she's since clarified that and said her comments were taken totally out of context. She never said mothers shouldn't let themselves go; she was asked what she does to keep herself feeling good and she said she likes to get her hair and nails done etc etc. The indo picked up on those comments and used them totally out of context to sell the paper.

To be fair to Pippa even before I read the article, I knew she hadn't said that. She comes across as a very intelligent and savvy person. I think it was the newspapers fault. A shocking excuse for a newspaper. I'm glad Pippa won. She has fabulous style.

dudara

scarbouro wrote: »

Well done to Pippa! Delighted for her winning best blogger tonight.

Can't say that I'm pleased. The awards completely ignore everyday bloggers in favour of people who are already famous and have expanded their "brand" into blogging. This is not pointed at Pippa BTW, but rather at the industry as a whole who reward the established big names. I'm tired of award ceremonies who just award the populist choice.

scarbouro

I do agree, it should be open to everyone in the industry and not just the well known bloggers but out of the nominees in that category tonight, I personally think she comes out on top.

dudara

She'll also sell the most magazines too. I know I have my cynical hat on tonight, but I bet you a lot of good bloggers were nominated who never even made it to the finalist stage, as they just wouldn't meet the "popular profile" criteria.

scarbouro

dudara wrote: »

She'll also sell the most magazines too. I know I have my cynical hat on tonight, but I bet you a lot of good bloggers were nominated who never even made it to the finalist stage, as they just wouldn't meet the "popular profile" criteria.

It was down to a public vote and that's who they voted for. It would be different if it was a judging panel doing the voting and they decided to allow a new fresh face blogger get recognised, which has happened in previous award ceremonies. I also mentioned before, I would of loved to see Chloe Boucher get it tonight but hopefully her turn will come.

retro:electro

dudara wrote: »

She'll also sell the most magazines too. I know I have my cynical hat on tonight, but I bet you a lot of good bloggers were nominated who never even made it to the finalist stage, as they just wouldn't meet the "popular profile" criteria.

But sure isn't that how these things work; the most popular ones win.

meeeeh

Nobody original would win if you have popular vote anyway. Make it as bland and inoffensive as possible and it works. With a bit a promotion and publicity in the rags like Sunday Independent (the ad obviously didn't do her any damage) thrown into the mix.

scarbouro

meeeeh wrote: »

(the ad obviously didn't do her any damage) .

I doubt the people who gave out about her regarding that article would have voted for her anyway. If you follow Pippa or actually read the article you would know she never said any of those things.

So sue me has a much bigger following than Pippa, if you go by the amount of people following her on her social media sites but didn't come out on top and hasn't for a couple of years now. Pippa is obviously doing something right.

meeeeh

I know she didn't said what Indo implied in their ads. I always claimed that in another thread, but that doesn't mean it wasn't just inoffensive twaddle.

You compare her with So Sue me which wouldn't be my cup of tea either. But the point I am making is if you leave it to popular vote One Direction will always win against I don't know Radiohead but love them or hate them only one of those bands will be considered as someone who had anything of substance to add in music.

I have no doubt in Pippa's commercial skills and she is definitely good at what she does (and I am sure she is perfectly nice), I just think it's not particularly groundbreaking. But then popular vote awards judge popularity not substance.

retro:electro

Don't understand why so many YouTubers who do make up tutorials do so under such bright lighting. It makes it impossible to see any product going onto the face; all I see is white wash. <SNIP> is awful for doing this.

scarbouro

Also, it's amazing the difference they look in their own photos on social media to when they're snapped by somebody else! Not saying using filters is a bad thing (we all do it!) but when you use enough of them that you're not even recognisable! It's giving such a false perception of these people.

retro:electro

scarbouro wrote: »

Also, it's amazing the difference they look in their own photos on social media to when they're snapped by somebody else! Not saying using filters is a bad thing (we all do it!) but when you use enough of them that you're not even recognisable! It's giving such a false perception of these people.

I agree. I mean who doesn't love a filter, but when the point of your job is to show how the make up product looks on your face then filters are futile.

retro:electro

Getting snipped for saying a blogger uses lights that are too bright!! Wow.

Hopeful2016

anna080 wrote: »

Getting snipped for saying a blogger uses lights that are too bright!! Wow.

Maybe that's the kind of comment that could end up in the high court

retro:electro

Hopeful2016 wrote: »

Maybe that's the kind of comment that could end up in the high court

Now that's a case I'd pay good money to see

idunno78

I reckon one of the the main things people what from a bloggers is honesty! Well what i want anyhow.
Fair enough putting a filter on a picture to even skin or blur a spot! But to do it so much you look different is crazy/ridiculous!
When reviewing something be honest almost everything has a little flaw, nothing is perfect!

retro:electro

They need to get over themselves and realise that they're not models, they're bloggers who try out make up and clothes and reccommend them to us for a living. Who cares if they have spots/imperfections, so does everyone. There isn't a chance in hell that I would buy a product that someone reccommends in a photo with more filter and photoshop than the whole Kardashian clan use in a year.

doireannod

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057518140

How on earth was this post allowed? Naming and criticising a blogger and making personal comments. But we're not allowed to say that someone uses too much light when taking selfies.

dudara

doireannod wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057518140

How on earth was this post allowed? Naming and criticising a blogger and making personal comments. But we're not allowed to say that someone uses too much light when taking selfies.

That is an old thread. As far as this thread goes, there have been repeated warnings in this thread not to name bloggers. It's even in the thread title.

ameliams

To answer the original question what do I look for in a blog.
Good writing, no grammar mistakes, clean outline, clear to the point but not too short. Not a copy and paste of a press release, which I'm seeing a lot of
recently.

I don't want "I was paid 150 euro to post this on Instagram" but I do absolutely want to see whether or not product was sent, requested or paid for. I don't really care if it was free. I'm not bothered about whether someone gets free clothes or foundation.
However, a simple #ad #spon is not enough. As demonstrated by Rosemary, she contacted the company and said she would post about the raincoat if they sent her one. No it was not an ad and it was not paid. But I would still like for it to been made clear in the post how she came to obtain the raincoat.

I'm not saying it's against any regulations or anything, but what I would like to see in any blog is how that blogger came across that product.

Whether that be buying it themselves, paid post, at an event, good relations with the company, pr sample, whatever, I would like to know its origin.

Now that's not to say I think it should be required for bloggers to do this, it is just what I personally would like to see. It would create a different dynamic across the blogging community which I think could be a good thing.
In my home town recently and talked to a friend of a friend who is a beauty therapist and also an aspiring blogger. Told me all about her next blog posts she's planning. All of which involved blank canvas. I asked her why the lack of variety and her response was that if you want to make a dent in the industry you have to appeal to the brand not the reader. Her entire focus is on blank canvas and inglot. She doesn't have a huge following but she gained quite a few followers in a short space of time and she credits it all to this.

My job requires me to be quite critical and precise in my writing (obviously not on boards but in real life) and the quality of writing in the vast majority of blogs makes me cringe. How I write is absolutely essential to my job, so to see bloggers who don't even proof read their work and making so much money is quite honestly horrible.

Unfortunately because there is no way of training to become a blogger and with social media pretty much anyone can decide to do it. there is no standard to adhere to.
You can't just decide to become a journalist or a writer without some kind of experience or training. But anyone can blog. Not saying everyone can be successful from it, but many are quite poor in the basic skills that one would think essential. But I would imagine it's far more about connections and money than anything else.