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UFC 196: McGregor vs Diaz***READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING***

  • 05-03-2016 6:20pm
    #1
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    OK, the fight tonight is a big sporting event so we've decided to allow a thread on it after receiving some requests. The same as we do for the Euros, WC, Rugby WC, etc. Please read the mod note below.

    Mod note:

    1) Usual After Hours charter still applies

    2) No allegations against fighters, particularly regarding steroid usage, etc

    3) No illegal streams or requests for streams

    4) No talking about Conor's accent. It's boring and has been done to death

    5) No fighter bashing. Opinions welcome, bashing not

    6) No eye gouging, fish-hooking or small joint manipulation. Groin shots are frowned upon

    Thanks to Nicolas Cage for drawing them up.


    Info on the fight here. Live on BT Sport 2 in Ireland.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    I hope McGregor loses.

    Hope that's not against the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭enzo roco


    J. Marston wrote: »
    I hope McGregor loses.

    Hope that's not against the rules.

    Well I hope Mcgregor wins. So take that.


    Kick his ass Sea Bass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Why not just edit the orignal thread..bit of over modding imo


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Anyone in receipt of social welfare (job seekers) for over 12 months who pays to watch this and who hasn't paid their water charges should get their payments cut by 74.5% imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭PowerToWait


    Diaz has some long ass arms.

    It was very uncouth of the young McGregor chap to throw an unprovoked blow at his opponent outside the ring. Not big, not clever.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    Augeo wrote: »
    Anyone in receipt of social welfare (job seekers) for over 12 months who pays to watch this and who hasn't paid their water charges should get their payments cut by 74.5% imo.

    What if they stream it for free online? No cut?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Diaz has some long ass arms.

    It was very uncouth of the young McGregor chap to throw an unprovoked blow at his opponent outside the ring. Not big, not clever.

    Uncouth is one word for that kind of scumbag move

    lol at people defending it too. If it was the other way around they'd be rabid over it.

    Never had a problem with McGregor before seeing that last night. Wouldn't care less if he gets his teeth knocked in now

    For anyone that didn't see it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Feck sake. What was wrong with the other thread.

    Mods or us. and we know the answer.

    Ban >>>>> for me now I suppose


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lights On wrote: »
    What if they stream it for free online? No cut?

    Most definitely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Who streams this online when it's on BT? Much cheaper with BT than online imho.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,819 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    What time is this expected to be on at?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Specialun wrote: »
    Why not just edit the orignal thread..bit of over modding imo

    Speaking from experience, then people will say that they didn't see the new rules. I'm covering all bases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭masti123


    Will BT Sport be showing this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    What time should Mc Gregor start the fighting match so ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Diaz has some long ass arms.

    So does McGregor. His wingspan is approximately 13 cm greater than his height.

    Diaz' wingspan is 10 cm greater than his height.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Did he say anything racist this time or was he told to cut it out.

    It's extremely ugly to see an Irish sports star be so blatantly racist. His comment about white men entering favelas and enslaving South Americans before his last fight was appalling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭Bulbous Salutation


    Did he say anything racist this time or was he told to cut it out.

    It's extremely ugly to see an Irish sports star be so blatantly racist. His comment about white men entering favelas and enslaving South Americans before his last fight was appalling.

    He's a dickhead. The popularity of this shows a real crisis in masculinity in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Peregrine wrote: »
    Speaking from experience, then people will say that they didn't see the new rules. I'm covering all bases.


    But could you not edit the orignal post, same as the previous mod did


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    What time should Mc Gregor start the fighting match so ?

    Probably not before 5am

    Someone posted an app on Reddit. Alarm will go off just before fight starts

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/492orl/mcgregor_alarm_sets_off_alarm_when_conor_is_going/


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He's a dickhead. The popularity of this shows a real crisis in masculinity in general.

    A friend of a friend is really into him.

    After his last fight, fellows were talking about him in the pub. Tried explaining racism and misogyny to his fan...gave up. He kept on saying "but it was to sell tickets" as if that was a defence to either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Out of his league/weight/comfort zone tonight I think.

    But good luck to him, maybe the bout this time will last for more than a few seconds.

    Meh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭arayess


    He's a dickhead. The popularity of this shows a real crisis in masculinity in general.

    crisis? what crisis?
    you sound like one of those white knight types that seek to alter masculinity to the point it is gender neutral.

    people like a loud mouth pantomime character and masculinity is in crisis....

    FFS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    A friend of a friend is really into him.

    After his last fight, fellows were talking about him in the pub. Tried explaining racism and misogyny to his fan...gave up. He kept on saying "but it was to sell tickets" as if that was a defence to either.

    More fool you for taking trash talk seriously. As for trying to lecture MMA fans in the pub? That's kinda autistic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Out of his league/weight/comfort zone tonight I think.

    2/9 odds on favorite to win

    Diaz is 3/1

    He's probably better suited to this weight anyway. He struggled (and looked rough as shit) at a lower weight

    https://i.imgur.com/a34KXln.jpg

    Looking much healthier and fit now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,485 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    At Christy Moore bar inside venue is closed and the locals bar is packed so sitting her without drink sourrended by drinkers. It's a sign for me to stay up for the fight.

    Ur not allowed bring drinks after 8pm into the venue. Christy it's 2016 ffs. I do like the model of a non drinking gig


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    More fool you for taking trash talk seriously. As for trying to lecture MMA fans in the pub? That's kinda autistic.

    Another who thinks racism is grand as long as it "trash talk".

    I disagree. I can't think of any other sports stars who drop it into their lingo. Can you?

    And explaining racism to a person is not "lecturing fans in a pub".

    Either way, I won't try to explain why autism is inappropriate as a term of abuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,059 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    At Christy Moore bar inside venue is closed and the locals bar is packed so sitting her without drink sourrended by drinkers. It's a sign for me to stay up for the fight.

    Ur not allowed bring drinks after 8pm into the venue. Christy it's 2016 ffs. I do like the model of a non drinking gig

    Where are you???

    Lack of drink didn't make that obvious to me lol. Enjoy yourself anyway have a blast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Conor does not look to be taking this fight as serious. Diaz is oblivious to his slagging (due to lack of understanding) so Conor isn't getting inside his head like he has with previous opponents.

    Interesting one this one...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    More fool you for taking trash talk seriously. As for trying to lecture MMA fans in the pub? That's kinda autistic.

    I've noticed this a lot. People don't seem to understand the concept of 'trash talking', they take everything the fighters say seriously.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I've noticed this a lot. People don't seem to understand the concept of 'trash talking', they take everything the fighters say seriously.

    It's a bit like saying Suarez wasn't racist because he was just trash talking.

    It's no defence to racism. None.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,763 ✭✭✭✭Crann na Beatha


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    These fights rarely start on time so I am hoping if I open my eyes about 4.30 I should catch the Holm fight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    It's a bit like saying Suarez wasn't racist because he was just trash talking.

    It's no defence to racism. None.

    I'd go for a pint with mcgregor over you any day, serious much??


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'd go for a pint with mcgregor over you any day, serious much??

    Damn it, that hurts so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,193 ✭✭✭✭Kerrydude1981


    masti123 wrote: »
    Will BT Sport be showing this?
    What time should Mc Gregor start the fighting match so ?

    BT are starting the fight coverage at 3am

    Fight is down to start at 5am

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/mma/what-time-conor-mcgregor-vs-7494106


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JT26 wrote: »
    What "racist" thing was said as a matter of interest?

    He said in a different time he would invade Aldo's favela on horseback and kill anyone not fit enough to work.

    It was about as racist as one could get because it directly referenced the subjugation of South Americans at the hands of colonial powers.

    He has done it before other fights, he called one fighter a Nazi because he was German. That's not racist mind you, merely disgraceful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭strelok


    He said in a different time he would invade Aldo's favela on horseback and kill anyone not fit enough to work.

    It was about as racist as one could get because it directly referenced the subjugation of South Americans at the hands of colonial powers.

    He has done it before other fights, he called one fighter a Nazi because he was German. That's not racist mind you, merely disgraceful.


    i'd say your friends love hanging out with you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭FalconGirl


    McGregor wouldn't be as big as he his now without the trash talk. Rest assured he doesn't talk like this to friends and family. More fool anyone for taking it seriously. He's in the entertainment business and has to entertain which he does quite well.

    Best of luck to him.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    FalconGirl wrote: »
    McGregor wouldn't be as big as he his now without the trash talk. Rest assured he doesn't talk like this to friends and family. More fool anyone for taking it seriously. He's in the entertainment business and has to entertain which he does quite well.

    Best of luck to him.

    Oh he's big?

    Sorry, sure that makes his racism grand so.

    I think Suarez made the same point, that he's very successful so his racism is grand? Actually sorry, he didn't, because it's a nonsense argument.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    strelok wrote: »
    i'd say your friends love hanging out with you

    They do.

    That was a good point though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭Lights On


    Oh he's big?

    Sorry, sure that makes his racism grand so.

    I think Suarez made the same point, that he's very successful so his racism is grand? Actually sorry, he didn't, because it's a nonsense argument.

    Will you be at this for the night? Because it's going to be a very dull fight thread if you're popping in with the racism card every other post!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    He said in a different time he would invade Aldo's favela on horseback and kill anyone not fit enough to work.

    It was about as racist as one could get because it directly referenced the subjugation of South Americans at the hands of colonial powers.

    He has done it before other fights, he called one fighter a Nazi because he was German. That's not racist mind you, merely disgraceful.

    I really think you need to look up the definition of racism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Oh he's big?

    Sorry, sure that makes his racism grand so.

    I think Suarez made the same point, that he's very successful so his racism is grand? Actually sorry, he didn't, because it's a nonsense argument.

    Suarez never made that point..his arguement was that the convo was in spanish and the word is not the same in that culture..plus there was zero proof he even said it..one man vs another mans say so


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭Rattser


    Did he say anything racist this time or was he told to cut it out.

    It's extremely ugly to see an Irish sports star be so blatantly racist. His comment about white men entering favelas and enslaving South Americans before his last fight was appalling.

    Called Nate a cholo.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 263 ✭✭Rattser


    JT26 wrote: »
    What "racist" thing was said as a matter of interest?

    If this was a different time, I would invade his favela on horseback and kill anyone that was not fit to work - in reference to Jose Aldo.

    He said this in Brazil, in front of a Brazilian crowd.

    Lunatic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    I really think you need to look up the definition of racism.

    What could be more racist than a white man invoking the subjugation of South Amercians, their massacre and enslavement?

    It is racism at its purest. It's not like he was referring to his national identity and that time Ireland colonised Brazil...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,485 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Where are you???

    Lack of drink didn't make that obvious to me lol. Enjoy yourself anyway have a blast.

    Woodlands hotel In Waterford. Sshh is all I'm hearing lol

    It's music to enjoy the drink too. I'll hit the bar after it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,072 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Rattser wrote: »
    If this was a different time, I would invade his favela on horseback and kill anyone that was not fit to work - in reference to Jose Aldo.

    He said this in Brazil, in front of a Brazilian crowd.

    Lunatic.

    He also called Dennis Siver a Nazi, coz y'know; he's half-German

    There's a difference between trash talk and being an ignorant prat that who doesn't know when to keep his mouth shut.

    Words are just words though in any case. Not really a big issue as far as I care

    Hitting out at Diaz like he did the other night though is nothing but pure skanger behavior.

    For all the talk people do about him 'putting asses on seats' he could easily have caused an injury which led to the fight being called off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭parc


    The SJWs are out in force tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I think he might lose. Diaz is durable, and a good striker, not bad at submissions either. However if Mcgregor's power carries up the weights he just might be able to finish it. I don't particularly like McGregor's antics, he has gone too far at times, but then Ali did the same, and the revisionists gloss over this. Having said all that i admire his single mindedness and dedication to get here- i'm sure he had lots of people telling him not to be an idiot and stick with the plumbing job - and would like to see him become a two weight UFC champion.


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