Tralee to seek city status.

bear1

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/welcome-to-the-city-of-tralee-population-22-200-1.2558656

So now that the population of the town is reaching Kilkenny which is classed as a city, the Traleelians are requesting the same treatment.
I honestly can't see what benefit this will have to the local economy.
Seem silly to me to have city status's for these types of places listed as cities.
Bray/Navan/Ennis are all bigger than Tralee but classed as towns and rightly so.

Menas

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

DEFTLEFTHAND

Didn't Sligo town get made a city recently or am I dreaming?

darkpagandeath

Does it have a cathedral ?

bear1

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

Didn't they lose it under the Fianna Fail regime?

bear1

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Didn't Sligo town get made a city recently or am I dreaming?

I think it's referred to as a "Gateway City".

beach_walker

Fianna Fáil councillor Thomas McEllistrim said city status for Tralee was one of his priorities when elected as mayor.

"It would make a big difference to Tralee from a tourism point of view. People tend to go to cities."

Err, I really don't agree with his line of thinking.

Mycroft H

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

Correct. It's also recognised in the local government act too.


Maybe the Healy-Reas will push for it? Terminal 2 at Kerry Airport?

maudgonner

I'm just surprised it isn't Kilgarvan that's seeking it.

blue note

I think Kilkenny is a medieval city or something. Basically they can still use the name Kilkenny city, but it's not a real one.

Hopefully no-one takes this seriously, it's embarrassing enough that we have to pretend one town is a city to keep the locals happy. Actually, it reminds me of when I was growing up and I had 3 siblings. We used to all want the leg of a rust chicken so my parents use to pretend that chickens had 4 legs and the wings were it's little legs.

bear1

maudgonner wrote: »

I'm just surprised it isn't Kilgarvan that's seeking it.

Give it time.

Nodin

bear1 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/welcome-to-the-city-of-tralee-population-22-200-1.2558656

So now that the population of the town is reaching Kilkenny which is classed as a city, the Traleelians are requesting the same treatment.
I honestly can't see what benefit this will have to the local economy.
Seem silly to me to have city status's for these types of places listed as cities.
Bray/Navan/Ennis are all bigger than Tralee but classed as towns and rightly so.

This idea goes against the laws of both God and Man.

D Trent

blue note wrote: »

Hopefully no-one takes this seriously, it's embarrassing enough that we have to pretend one town is a city to keep the locals happy. Actually, it reminds me of when I was growing up and I had 3 siblings. We used to all want the leg of a rust chicken so my parents use to pretend that chickens had 4 legs and the wings were it's little legs.

fucl< me that's heartbreaking
Angela's ashes stuff right there

valoren

New York, London, Tokyo et al. They are Cities.

Tralee. You're a glorified village. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

uch

If it's classed as a City does it not get it's own council ?

davetherave

The Local government act of 2001 says that the following are cities

SCHEDULE 5
Local Government Areas (Counties and Cities)

PART 1
Counties
[SNIP]

PART 2
Cities

Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Waterford

Local Government Areas (Towns)

PART 1 - Chapter 1

Boroughs
Clonmel, Drogheda, Kilkenny, Sligo, Wexford


Tralee was a former urban district. Maybe the good people of Kerry should consider it being upgraded to a borough before being classified as a town.

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

bear1 wrote: »

Didn't they lose it under the Fianna Fail regime?

From the Local Government Act of 2001

(7) This section is without prejudice to the continued use of the description city in relation to Kilkenny, to the extent that that description was used before the establishment day and is not otherwise inconsistent with this Act.


Those sly cats have grandfathered in the right to call themselves a city.

diomed

Bray is bigger than Tralee. I'm not saying it is better.

The Rose of Tralee City - I said it first.

pcardin

valoren wrote: »

New York, London, Tokyo et al. They are Cities.

Tralee. You're a glorified village. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

NY, London and Tokyo are mega cities, so your comparison is invalid (by this measurement Dublin is a village too). You do realize that cities can be way smaller than that?

Joe prim

diomed wrote: »

Bray is bigger than Tralee. I'm not saying it is better.

The Rose of Tralee City - I said it first.

"A rose-red city, half as old as time"

It's only right that the Kingdom has a city...

Rhys Essien

In the US,you could have a city with 5000 people and in a place like Westwood village in LA you would see a 30 storey high-rise.It all to do with electing a mayor and a council.

Harry Palmr

What do they think they'll get for being a city?

lertsnim

This is what happens when an idiot is elected. But the people of Tralee will think he's great for trying to do something while he completely neglects other areas

jonon9

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Does it have a cathedral ?

Aren't cities classed by population not by having a fancy church in it.

Harry Palmr

jonon9 wrote: »

Aren't cities classed by population not by having a fancy church in it.

Traditionally a cathedral meant you were a city, obviously that's no longer the practise and towns need to submit their pitch to be upgraded (none has since Galway in 1985).

ClovenHoof

There are cities in the USA with 500 people.

Population size has nothing to do with city status.

omerin

This is completely wrong and goes against their culture. Will someone please think of these poor boggers, the poor ****ers wouldn't know what to do with the increased level of sophistication that comes with living in a city - gone will be their flat caps, the awkward limp, the smell of slurry off them and their simple nature. Gone too, the Americans, who come to observe the bogger in their natural habitat., No, No, I say

Eugene Norman

omerin wrote: »

This is completely wrong and goes against their culture. Will someone please think of these poor boggers, the poor ****ers wouldn't know what to do with the increased level of sophistication that comes with living in a city - gone will be their flat caps, the awkward limp, the smell of slurry off them and their simple nature. Gone too, the Americans, who come to observe the bogger in their natural habitat., No, No, I say

Also they need more folk shooting up. For legitimacy.

bee06

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Also they need more folk shooting up. For legitimacy.

To be honest you'll find more of them in Tralee than men in flat caps these days.

corkonion

I guess all the good folk from Tralee will start spending weekends in Killarney to get a break from the rat race of city life.

The Rape of Lucretia

bear1 wrote: »

I think it's referred to as a "Gateway City".

I think that might be the case. Gateway cities are cities that arent really cities or have anything to recommend them, but are on the way to places of worth.

Buford T. Justice XIX

beach_walker wrote: »

Err, I really don't agree with his line of thinking.

In fairness to Tommy, that would be the first time he has been accused of thinking...

For Forks Sake

Could be worse I suppose, Lisburn and Newry won their city status in a raffle: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1872287.stm

Archeron

Are people from there really called Traleelians? Coz that is a brilliant word.

darkpagandeath

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Does it have a cathedral ?

No, or at least not for the last 900 years when it was part of the Diocese of Ardfert with a Cathedral there, and now part of the Kerry Diocese with a Cathedral in Killarney.

Lia_lia

God, I feckin hate Tralee. It's way too small to be considered a city. Don't think it has a cathedral, Killarney does though! They just want to steal our tourists from Killarney. They do have the IT though, which is quite good so I hear. That's it really.. I even consider Cork more of a large town than a city.

Hitchens

Kilkenny folk have for centuries known how citizens must behave and it is in our DNA at this stage ....

whereas Tralee .......well c'mon now

My name is URL

Galway is the only one true Irish city.

All the rest were granted city status by the Brit Royal Charter.

Galway the only one by an act of the Oireachtas.

lol at all the butthurt townies annoyed by the idea of Tralee being a city.

City is a meaningless term in Irish local governance.

Nodin

Deleted User wrote: »

It's only right that the Kingdom has a city...

It'll show that shower up in Dublin.

SEPT 23 1989

Tralee City ffs

Tallaght is officially classed as a village

The flying mouse

When will we have the intercity train rolling to The city of Tralee.

Hitchens

My name is URL wrote: »

Galway is the only one true Irish city.

All the rest were granted city status by the Brit Royal Charter.

Galway the only one by an act of the Oireachtas.

lol at all the butthurt townies annoyed by the idea of Tralee being a city.

City is a meaningless term in Irish local governance.

just another QUANGOish entity then

Capt'n Midnight

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

At one stage Kilkenny was the capital of Ireland

skittles8710

lertsnim wrote: »

This is what happens when an idiot is elected. But the people of Tralee will think he's great for trying to do something while he completely neglects other areas

As a Tralee native most people I know think of McEllistrim as a bit simple. There are very few genuine cities in Ireland. ..Cork wouldn't classify as a city in Spain for example. I think it's Tom just blowing a bit of hot air tbh. Got the town I people's radars anyway!

bear1

Archeron wrote: »

Are people from there really called Traleelians? Coz that is a brilliant word.

Doubt it, I just made it up cause I hadn't a clue what to denote them as

fleet_admiral

Archeron wrote: »

Are people from there really called Traleelians? Coz that is a brilliant word.

Us Dublin buckos just call them kunts

12Phase

There are currently 5 cities:

Dublin
Cork
Limerick
Galway
Waterford

Kilkenny isn't one, other than historically.

Population of Tralee 23,693

If it's based on population, Drogheda and Dundalk would be the most obvious places.

Swords Co. Dublin and Ballncollig Co. Cork would also be way up the list of places.

Tallaght would be WAY up that list, although at this stage it's basically a part of Dublin City anyway.

dm09

City of Compton

Hitchens

12Phase wrote: »

There are currently 5 cities:

Dublin
Cork
Limerick
Galway
Waterford
Belfast
Derry

Kilkenny isn't one, other than historically.

Population of Tralee 23,693

If it's based on population, Drogheda and Dundalk would be the most obvious places.

Swords Co. Dublin and Ballncollig Co. Cork would also be way up the list of places.

Tallaght would be WAY up that list, although at this stage it's basically a part of Dublin City anyway.

fyp

ballyharpat

corkonion wrote: »

I guess all the good folk from Tralee will start spending weekends in Killarney to get a break from the rat race of city life.

They already do-but to get away from the rats, not the rat race.

Skylinehead

Hitchens wrote: »

fyp

Didn't fyp very well, you missed Newry, Armagh and Lisburn