Tralee to seek city status.

bear1 · 03-03-2016 05:22PM #1

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/welcome-to-the-city-of-tralee-population-22-200-1.2558656

So now that the population of the town is reaching Kilkenny which is classed as a city, the Traleelians are requesting the same treatment.
I honestly can't see what benefit this will have to the local economy.
Seem silly to me to have city status's for these types of places listed as cities.
Bray/Navan/Ennis are all bigger than Tralee but classed as towns and rightly so.

Menas · 03-03-2016 05:23PM

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

DEFTLEFTHAND · 03-03-2016 05:25PM

Didn't Sligo town get made a city recently or am I dreaming?

darkpagandeath · 03-03-2016 05:25PM

Does it have a cathedral ?

bear1 · 03-03-2016 05:27PM

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

Didn't they lose it under the Fianna Fail regime?

bear1 · 03-03-2016 05:28PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Didn't Sligo town get made a city recently or am I dreaming?

I think it's referred to as a "Gateway City".

beach_walker · 03-03-2016 05:29PM

Fianna Fáil councillor Thomas McEllistrim said city status for Tralee was one of his priorities when elected as mayor.

"It would make a big difference to Tralee from a tourism point of view. People tend to go to cities."

Err, I really don't agree with his line of thinking.

Mycroft H · 03-03-2016 05:29PM

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

Correct. It's also recognised in the local government act too.

Maybe the Healy-Reas will push for it? Terminal 2 at Kerry Airport?

maudgonner · 03-03-2016 05:29PM

I'm just surprised it isn't Kilgarvan that's seeking it.

blue note · 03-03-2016 05:31PM

I think Kilkenny is a medieval city or something. Basically they can still use the name Kilkenny city, but it's not a real one.

Hopefully no-one takes this seriously, it's embarrassing enough that we have to pretend one town is a city to keep the locals happy. Actually, it reminds me of when I was growing up and I had 3 siblings. We used to all want the leg of a rust chicken so my parents use to pretend that chickens had 4 legs and the wings were it's little legs.

bear1 · 03-03-2016 05:32PM

maudgonner wrote: »

I'm just surprised it isn't Kilgarvan that's seeking it.

Give it time.

Nodin · 03-03-2016 05:33PM

bear1 wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/welcome-to-the-city-of-tralee-population-22-200-1.2558656

So now that the population of the town is reaching Kilkenny which is classed as a city, the Traleelians are requesting the same treatment.
I honestly can't see what benefit this will have to the local economy.
Seem silly to me to have city status's for these types of places listed as cities.
Bray/Navan/Ennis are all bigger than Tralee but classed as towns and rightly so.

This idea goes against the laws of both God and Man.

D Trent · 03-03-2016 05:36PM

blue note wrote: »

Hopefully no-one takes this seriously, it's embarrassing enough that we have to pretend one town is a city to keep the locals happy. Actually, it reminds me of when I was growing up and I had 3 siblings. We used to all want the leg of a rust chicken so my parents use to pretend that chickens had 4 legs and the wings were it's little legs.

fucl< me that's heartbreaking
Angela's ashes stuff right there

valoren · 03-03-2016 05:48PM

New York, London, Tokyo et al. They are Cities.

Tralee. You're a glorified village. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

uch · 03-03-2016 05:48PM

If it's classed as a City does it not get it's own council ?

davetherave · 03-03-2016 05:51PM

The Local government act of 2001 says that the following are cities

SCHEDULE 5
Local Government Areas (Counties and Cities)

PART 1
Counties
[SNIP]

PART 2
Cities

Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Waterford

Local Government Areas (Towns)

PART 1 - Chapter 1

Boroughs
Clonmel, Drogheda, Kilkenny, Sligo, Wexford

Tralee was a former urban district. Maybe the good people of Kerry should consider it being upgraded to a borough before being classified as a town.

Menas wrote: »

Isnt kilkenny a city by royal charter from the 1600s or something??

bear1 wrote: »

Didn't they lose it under the Fianna Fail regime?

From the Local Government Act of 2001

(7) This section is without prejudice to the continued use of the description city in relation to Kilkenny, to the extent that that description was used before the establishment day and is not otherwise inconsistent with this Act.

Those sly cats have grandfathered in the right to call themselves a city.

diomed · 03-03-2016 06:00PM

Bray is bigger than Tralee. I'm not saying it is better.

The Rose of Tralee City - I said it first.

pcardin · 03-03-2016 06:08PM

valoren wrote: »

New York, London, Tokyo et al. They are Cities.

Tralee. You're a glorified village. Delusions of grandeur indeed.

NY, London and Tokyo are mega cities, so your comparison is invalid (by this measurement Dublin is a village too). You do realize that cities can be way smaller than that?

Joe prim · 03-03-2016 06:11PM

diomed wrote: »

Bray is bigger than Tralee. I'm not saying it is better.

The Rose of Tralee City - I said it first.

"A rose-red city, half as old as time"

03-03-2016 06:15PM

It's only right that the Kingdom has a city...

Rhys Essien · 03-03-2016 06:16PM

In the US,you could have a city with 5000 people and in a place like Westwood village in LA you would see a 30 storey high-rise.It all to do with electing a mayor and a council.

Harry Palmr · 03-03-2016 06:25PM

What do they think they'll get for being a city?

lertsnim · 03-03-2016 06:43PM

This is what happens when an idiot is elected. But the people of Tralee will think he's great for trying to do something while he completely neglects other areas

jonon9 · 03-03-2016 07:01PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Does it have a cathedral ?

Aren't cities classed by population not by having a fancy church in it.

Harry Palmr · 03-03-2016 07:05PM

jonon9 wrote: »

Aren't cities classed by population not by having a fancy church in it.

Traditionally a cathedral meant you were a city, obviously that's no longer the practise and towns need to submit their pitch to be upgraded (none has since Galway in 1985).

ClovenHoof · 03-03-2016 07:31PM

There are cities in the USA with 500 people.

Population size has nothing to do with city status.

omerin · 03-03-2016 07:50PM

This is completely wrong and goes against their culture. Will someone please think of these poor boggers, the poor ****ers wouldn't know what to do with the increased level of sophistication that comes with living in a city - gone will be their flat caps, the awkward limp, the smell of slurry off them and their simple nature. Gone too, the Americans, who come to observe the bogger in their natural habitat., No, No, I say

Eugene Norman · 03-03-2016 07:54PM

omerin wrote: »

This is completely wrong and goes against their culture. Will someone please think of these poor boggers, the poor ****ers wouldn't know what to do with the increased level of sophistication that comes with living in a city - gone will be their flat caps, the awkward limp, the smell of slurry off them and their simple nature. Gone too, the Americans, who come to observe the bogger in their natural habitat., No, No, I say

Also they need more folk shooting up. For legitimacy.

bee06 · 03-03-2016 07:58PM

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Also they need more folk shooting up. For legitimacy.

To be honest you'll find more of them in Tralee than men in flat caps these days.

corkonion · 03-03-2016 08:00PM

I guess all the good folk from Tralee will start spending weekends in Killarney to get a break from the rat race of city life.

The Rape of Lucretia · 03-03-2016 08:14PM

bear1 wrote: »

I think it's referred to as a "Gateway City".

I think that might be the case. Gateway cities are cities that arent really cities or have anything to recommend them, but are on the way to places of worth.

Tralee to seek city status.

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