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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VI

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    #9962
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Well yes, if you hadn't watched him play you could say that. Or if you know nothing about rugby you could say that.
    stephen_n wrote: »
    I would say the same about the 4 pages of posts by him that RK is a ****e player, who can't play rugby tbh!

    No one has said that. And you can leave out the condescending put-downs. This is a discussion forum, people are allowed to express opinions without being told they know nothing about rugby


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    #9963
    maoriincork
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭maoriincork


    molloyjh wrote: »
    TOH also plays a few levels below the current NZ team, and a level or two below Test level. It's rare that there's the kind of space at Test level that he's used to at this stage. So there's bound to be a massive learning curve for the guy as a result.

    What works in the Pro12 does not automatically work at Test level. Ireland has had loads of players over the years who have looked really good for their province and been unable to take the step up to play for their country. While TOH may not be one of those the fact that there have been many of those players shows that Test level is a different beast. And Test level against NZ is a step up from that again.

    Your argument is out the window because you have Joey Carberry, Ringrose,etc making debuts and have only performed in that lower lower level as you put it.


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    #9964
    Interested Observer
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    maoriincork wrote: »
    Your argument is out the window because you have Joey Carberry, Ringrose,etc making debuts and have only performed in that lower lower level as you put it.

    Every player has only performed at a lower level, until they haven't. Get TOH in there imo, probably the best in the country for consistently making ground and beating defenders.


    I saw the stats for the Leinster v Munster game earlier, Rob Kearney apparently made 5m from 6 carries. I don't think I've ever seen a figure so low for a fullback.


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    #9965
    Interested Observer
    Registered Users Posts: 13,051 ✭✭✭✭Interested Observer


    Not really sure anyone in this match is demanding to be picked next weekend.


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    #9966
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    molloyjh wrote: »
    On form SOB is definitely ahead of him, but as it stands I'd have Jordi ahead of SOB until we get a better look at him (tomorrow).
    Zzippy wrote: »
    So, form is important for SOB, but not for RK? :p
    :D
    #canofworms


    On form SOB ???????


    SOB's form of late is sitting in the stand after his rehab session. My own form is better than that. Havent heard Im in the mix for Chicago though.


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    #9967
    The Rape of Lucretia
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Every player has only performed at a lower level, until they haven't. Get TOH in there imo, probably the best in the country for consistently making ground and beating defenders.


    I saw the stats for the Leinster v Munster game earlier, Rob Kearney apparently made 5m from 6 carries. I don't think I've ever seen a figure so low for a fullback.

    What was his recycle percentage though ?


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    #9968
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Interested Observer wrote: »
    Not really sure anyone in this match is demanding to be picked next weekend.

    Gilroy at FB with Lyttle on the wing. Kiwis won't know what hit them.


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    #9969
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Don't think it's entirely beyond the realms of possibility that a solid performance from Carbery tomorrow could see him leapfrog Jackson.


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    #9970
    The Rape of Lucretia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Don't think it's entirely beyond the realms of possibility that a solid performance from Carbery tomorrow could see him leapfrog Jackson.

    A step on the road perhaps. And maybe one leading to a leapfrog come 6N time. But for the AIs ? A bit too quick. Especially now its seems we are going with the Henshaw/Ringsie centre combo, to have two such freshlings in the backline together.


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    #9971
    Adbrowne
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Don't think it's entirely beyond the realms of possibility that a solid performance from Carbery tomorrow could see him leapfrog Jackson.

    He hasnt been taking the place kicks though has he?


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    #9972
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Adbrowne wrote: »
    He hasnt been taking the place kicks though has he?

    That's true but in reality the most the backup 10 is looking at is a few minutes at the death, if even.

    I suppose against Canada it would stand in Jackson's favour.


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    #9973
    andymx11
    Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭andymx11


    Sexton on The Late Late show tonight. Pity Ryan doesn't have a clue about Sport or have any interview skills..


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    #9974
    RoundBox11
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Don't think it's entirely beyond the realms of possibility that a solid performance from Carbery tomorrow could see him leapfrog Jackson.

    I would say it's absolutely beyond the realms of possibility.

    Jackson was fantastic down in SA and has been playing great rugby for at least 2 years now. You cant compare Carberry's few games as 2nd fiddle.


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    #9975
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Has anyone given an explanation yet as to why Earls is in the squad named for Chicago? Even a clarification that it's actually the squad for all the AIs?


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    #9976
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Has anyone given an explanation yet as to why Earls is in the squad named for Chicago? Even a clarification that it's actually the squad for all the AIs?

    He's in the squad because they will want him in camp to stay in tune. I doubt he's travelling to Chicago.


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    #9977
    coco0981
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    RoundBox11 wrote: »
    I would say it's absolutely beyond the realms of possibility.

    Jackson was fantastic down in SA and has been playing great rugby for at least 2 years now. You cant compare Carberry's few games as 2nd fiddle.

    Couldn't agree more. Carberry has been very good but Jackson has done more than enough to deserve his place as sextons backup. Joe is not the type to change based on one or two good games. Matt Healy had a full season of good play last year and still only made the south Africa tour through injury


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    #9978
    Cathalthesmart
    Registered Users Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Cathalthesmart


    You can't always compare what a player does for his province and what he does for his country, different coaching structures.


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    #9979
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    He's in the squad because they will want him in camp to stay in tune. I doubt he's travelling to Chicago.

    Still seems odd though, someone who can actually play could be in the squad instead. I know there's 3 other wing options there and not a lot of choice outside of them.


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    #9980
    stephen_n
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    Still seems a wasted opportunity to have one of the younger ones in camp and getting used to the setup.


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    #9981
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    This thread getting full lads, continue the discussion here


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