Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VI

Clegg

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

In general, he has a distinct history of upping his game and playing at his peak when in green.

I think it's more playing to his peak when Schmidt is coaching him. Joe appears to know how to get the very best out of him. Was the same story at Leinster.

Zzippy

Clegg wrote: »

Still a good team even with Murphy in it. Never understood the stick he gets from some quarters. Wavy hair and an exotic name obviously means you can't okay rugby.

It's a better team with SOB in it. That was the point I was making. I never said Murphy couldn't play rugby, but whatever...

irishbucsfan

Zzippy wrote: »

It's a better team with SOB in it. That was the point I was making. I never said Murphy couldn't play rugby, but whatever...

I think they'll give SOB every chance to get there. Irrespective of Murphy's abiiltiy as a rugby player, SOB is SOB

As long as Payne is at FB, anything else is a step backwards tbh

irishbucsfan

Donncha Ryan, some man for one man

https://twitter.com/IrishRugby/status/791978479831003136

Bazzo

Can we just rename this "the Kearney thread" and get it over with?

Clegg: I dunno what Connacht matches you're watching but they mustn't be the same ones I'm watching :P Marmion's speed to the breakdown has saved Connacht's ass on several occassions this season when they were defending their rucks poorly.

Ringrose being held back this weekend is interesting...

Nift

Clegg wrote: »

Still a good team even with Murphy in it. Never understood the stick he gets from some quarters. Wavy hair and an exotic name obviously means you can't okay rugby.

Nothing to do with his name, he's only an alright player. Not big enough or powerful enough to be a top player. Also he was a disaster in the World Cup. He was good in South Africa mind. Also which is his best position? He doesn't start ahead of Stander, SOB, POM or Heaslip.

Nift

Nift wrote: »

Nothing to do with his name, he's only an alright player. Not big enough or powerful enough to be a top player. Also he was a disaster in the World Cup. He was good in South Africa mind. Also which is his best position? He doesn't start ahead of Stander, SOB, POM or Heaslip.

Any shame in that? They're all top, top players!

wp_rathead

Deleted User wrote: »

Any shame in that? They're all top, top players!

there is no shame in players not getting picked because better players ahead of them - pretty sure everyone on this agrees

molloyjh

Clegg wrote: »

I think it's more playing to his peak when Schmidt is coaching him. Joe appears to know how to get the very best out of him. Was the same story at Leinster.

It's hard to know really. He was excellent for Leinster when he first came through under Joe, but I think he's had a bloody great season so far too.

Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

It's hard to know really. He was excellent for Leinster when he first came through under Joe, but I think he's had a bloody great season so far too.

The point is SOB is better. No one said Murphy was shit, one poster inferred that by the old 2+2=5 method.

connemara man

Zzippy wrote: »

The point is SOB is better. No one said Murphy was shit, one poster inferred that by the old 2+2=5 method.

Which one

molloyjh

Zzippy wrote: »

The point is SOB is better. No one said Murphy was shit, one poster inferred that by the old 2+2=5 method.

I was just replying to how Jordi seems to step up somewhat for Ireland. On form SOB is definitely ahead of him, but as it stands I'd have Jordi ahead of SOB until we get a better look at him (tomorrow).

Zzippy

connemara man wrote: »

Which one

Take your pick!

Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

I was just replying to how Jordi seems to step up somewhat for Ireland. On form SOB is definitely ahead of him, but as it stands I'd have Jordi ahead of SOB until we get a better look at him (tomorrow).

But...but... I thought form was only one consideration! Are you saying it's more important than that? :eek:

irishbucsfan

Zzippy hates Jordi Murphy

molloyjh

Zzippy wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

I was just replying to how Jordi seems to step up somewhat for Ireland. On form SOB is definitely ahead of him, but as it stands I'd have Jordi ahead of SOB until we get a better look at him (tomorrow).

But...but... I thought form was only one consideration! Are you saying it's more important than that? :eek:

I've a feeling I'd just be opening myself up to more piss taking should I answer, so I'all just say no??????

Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

I've a feeling I'd just be opening myself up to more piss taking should I answer, so I'all just say no??????

So, form is important for SOB, but not for RK?



#canofworms

molloyjh

Zzippy wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

I've a feeling I'd just be opening myself up to more piss taking should I answer, so I'all just say no??????

So, form is important for SOB, but not for RK?



#canofworms

Aaaggggghhhhhh, I know this is just a joke, but I really want to answer seriously!!!!!

Zzippy

molloyjh wrote: »

Aaaggggghhhhhh, I know this is just a joke, but I really want to answer seriously!!!!!

Haha, I'm totally not going near that can of worms, just pointing out some flaws in the logic!

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be written down and may be given in evidence...

Dog Botherer

Lads, the solution is obvious:

Darragh Fanning at 15, James Coughlan at 7. Be grand.

former total

Zzippy wrote: »

Haha, I'm totally not going near that can of worms, just pointing out some flaws in the logic!

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be written down and may be given in evidence...

In fairness, his logic is grand, his post was poorly phrased.

What he means is that an in-form SOB is clearly better than Murphy, but we've no idea what shape SOB is in.

That's not the case with Kearney who is playing well and looks to be properly fit for the first time in ages.

molloyjh

Well in fairness the Kearney and SOB examples are apples and oranges in that in the former the alternative had feck all experience but in the latter the alternative has plenty. Form isn't the be all and end all but it is always a consideration.

Kauto

former total wrote: »

In fairness, his logic is grand, his post was poorly phrased.

What he means is that an in-form SOB is clearly better than Murphy, but we've no idea what shape SOB is in.

That's not the case with Kearney who is playing well and looks to be properly fit for the first time in ages.

Kearney is playing. That's about all you can say about him.

Interested Observer

irishbucsfan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RuaidhriOC/status/791962955726192641

Ringrose. Jaysus I really hope he starts.

Adbrowne

Interested Observer wrote: »

Ringrose. Jaysus I really hope he starts.

Conservative Joe :rolleyes: I think that will be close enough to the XV in Chicago

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

You'd have to assume Ringrose is at least in the running to play in Chicago. My money would be on Schmidt wanting Marshall but he needs to play for Ulster this weekend so they can assess how he is. If there was no intention of playing Ringrose at all you'd think he'd have been made available to Leinster.

stephen_n

Kauto wrote: »

Kearney is playing. That's about all you can say about him.

Well yes, if you hadn't watched him play you could say that. Or if you know nothing about rugby you could say that.

wp_rathead

stephen_n wrote: »

Well yes, if you hadn't watched him play you could say that. Or if you know nothing about rugby you could say that.

no need for that sh!te tbf

stephen_n

wp_rathead wrote: »

no need for that sh!te tbf

I would say the same about the 4 pages of posts by him that RK is a ****e player, who can't play rugby tbh!