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Anxiety and depression thread (Please read OP)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Euphoria Intensifies


    I'm so sorry you have to put up with that SB. Your posts on here tell me that you're anything but a useless lump. You're fighting hard to keep going every day, despite having to put up with depression and anxiety. You're a fecking warrior, not a useless lump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    Reading the few posts there life doesnt seem to be getting easier for many of us lately :(

    been on these beta-blockers 2 days now but don't really feel all that different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    Over the past few years I've run depression and anxiety support groups.

    I put them on a break a while back as I had a shortage of volunteers and I had to focus on my own mental health.

    Just found out that one of the people who had come to the group for a long while has taken their own life recently.

    He stopped being able to come to the groups for quite a while before they ended.

    His family made a point of getting in touch with me to tell me, and also told me some of his diary entries from times after he'd been at the support group, about what a safe space it felt for him, and how much it helped him.

    I've been on many sides of suicide, but not this one before.

    I also work in suicide prevention training, and gave my most recent training only this afternoon, so head is understandably quite muddled.

    He was a wonderful, wonderful man, and it sounds like he was let down so badly by mental health services. He deserved so much better.

    But I also feel so privileged to have known him, and to have helped in some way with what he experienced over the last few years.

    I am so touched that his family thought to get in touch and they seemed truly grateful for the support that the group provided him with. They'd been trying to get him to go back to the group in the months before I stopped running it, but he wasn't up to it.

    I needed to post this somewhere, not quite sure where, as friends would be asleep right now.

    I don't know what to feel, but I'm glad that I'm able to take some good out of it too. I'm glad I was able to help him .

    I wish so much it had ended differently for him, and I hate to think of what his family must be experiencing.

    He tried so hard to overcome it. I hope that he is at peace.

    I don't know what to feel but I am ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    @whatismyname

    You made him feel safe and cared about. That is such an incredible gift. I know how rare that can be from the last few months. And I know when you receive even a moment of that from someone, how great a difference it can make. How suddenly there's a bit of light inside.

    Of course it doesn't last, due to our illness, or other factors... but for those few times you made a genuine and profound difference to his life. You made him feel better. Whether it lasted a week or a month or half a minute, you touched his heart and made him fee safe. You were one of the bright things in his life.

    I am sure he would thank you for that if he could, and it reminds me that I should be thanking you now too. Because you've done the same for me before too, gave some light in the darkness.

    And everyone here, a simple word of support can lift a person. I got offered bro hugs here a few weeks ago and cried, but not in sadness.

    You do a lot of reaching out to others to help whatismyname, you couldn't have done more. You did what you could, and when I cynically look at the world, I think that what you could do is more than most people would even bother to do. You made a positive difference to his life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    My mission for the next week is mindfulness. To focus on the here and now, and to call back my thoughts without judgement whenever they go astray.

    How do you guys find doing that yourselves?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    @mickstupp.

    Thank you. That's pretty much what I would have said to someone else, but needed to hear it myself, if you know what I mean.

    Thanks for your kind words.

    And in relation to saying that he would have thanked me himself if he could, it meant the world to me that his family took the time to get in touch and do so, even though they are going through much themselves right now.

    They also are not having flowers for funeral, and wanted to do a collection for the support group instead. But as I can't say with certainty that it'll come back, it wouldn't be appropriate. (The group had a shortage of volunteers, was too dependant on me, and so me taking time out to focus on my own mental health meant I had to stop it for a while. I really hope I'll get it back up and running, but still remain unable to do this as still need to focus on myself right now.)

    But the fact that they got in touch and had so much positive to say at an already very difficult time meant the world to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭Keane2baMused


    Whatismyname how truly sad for that man's family but their kind words are testament to the difference you made in his life while he was in your group. You have every right to be proud of that fact.

    Hugo I find if does help me to a certain extent. It's definitely worth doing. Only thing I find with me is often something will happen and I then have trouble keeping the negative thoughts out and find it very hard to avoid 'spiralling' again.

    Bit of a 'meh' day here, neither bad nor good which is better than some days so I guess that's a positive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Over the past few years I've run depression and anxiety support groups.

    I put them on a break a while back as I had a shortage of volunteers and I had to focus on my own mental health.

    Just found out that one of the people who had come to the group for a long while has taken their own life recently.

    I'm so sorry to hear that. :(

    Hugo I find if does help me to a certain extent. It's definitely worth doing. Only thing I find with me is often something will happen and I then have trouble keeping the negative thoughts out and find it very hard to avoid 'spiralling' again.

    Bit of a 'meh' day here, neither bad nor good which is better than some days so I guess that's a positive.

    I was told not to make judgement on myself or the thoughts, just to call back my attention. The judgement part is troubling as I want to be angry at my wandering thoughts.

    Hopefully the day will pick up for you there, it's still early enough yet. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Gael23 wrote: »
    My message is whatever situation you come up against, there is ALWAYS light at the end of it.
    For the last day I've been debating whether or not to say this. This is after all a place where people should come for hope, empathy, friendly ears. So I didn't want to put a downer on anyone. But I also need to say it.

    I'm afraid I find myself unable to believe those words, whenever anyone says them. Or the idea that time heals all things. I can't believe it. I've been struggling with this every day for 23 years and the only thing that's gotten better is my ability to deal with certain aspects of it. Yet the underlying darkness is still always there every single waking moment.

    I am always fighting myself, fighting the self-sabotaging, self-destructive part of me. Every. Single. Moment. It never ends. And it's exhausting.

    And yes I'm seeing a bunch of different people, and taking what I'm supposed to, and listening, and doing constructive things... but none of it matters. None of it makes any sort of long term difference whatsoever. I have always been utterly without faith that I will ever escape this.

    This is probably not the place for that sort of comment. But maybe I also want anyone who feels like I do, to know they're not the only one, because I know I've often felt afraid to voice that stuff. I had to say it though.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Rough few days.. I get that it's a lifelong for some cases which includes me, but a break now an then would be nice.. I'm with ya Mickstup, a breather here and there would be nice..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Rough few days.. I get that it's a lifelong for some cases which includes me, but a break now an then would be nice.. I'm with ya Mickstup, a breather here and there would be nice..

    *hugs* So sorry to hear that, Grem. :(

    Fellow lifer here too. Hopefully the breaks from all this will become longer and longer, until the dips back into the darkness are nothing more than brief clap of thunder on the horizon on an otherwise sunny day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    Hi I'm a longtime lurking but don't post that often. I suffer from general anxiety disorder. I had CBT therapy a few year back and managed to have it under control but in December a few days before Christmas I had a miscarriage and it came back with a bang. I'm currently attending CBT again. It's so hard living with anxiey. I felt I was gaining back a little control with every session of CBT but last week I was in a pretty bad car crash and have concussion and whiplash. I feel like now I'm back to square one all over again. Very anxious. I couldn't attend therapy this week because of my injuries. Rant over


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Hi I'm a longtime lurking but don't post that often. I suffer from general anxiety disorder. I had CBT therapy a few year back and managed to have it under control but in December a few days before Christmas I had a miscarriage and it came back with a bang. I'm currently attending CBT again. It's so hard living with anxiey. I felt I was gaining back a little control with every session of CBT but last week I was in a pretty bad car crash and have concussion and whiplash. I feel like now I'm back to square one all over again. Very anxious. I couldn't attend therapy this week because of my injuries. Rant over

    That's some strength you have, doubt I'd be off the floor yet. Glad you have access to help too and welcome to the thread..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Hi I'm a longtime lurking but don't post that often. I suffer from general anxiety disorder. I had CBT therapy a few year back and managed to have it under control but in December a few days before Christmas I had a miscarriage and it came back with a bang. I'm currently attending CBT again. It's so hard living with anxiey. I felt I was gaining back a little control with every session of CBT but last week I was in a pretty bad car crash and have concussion and whiplash. I feel like now I'm back to square one all over again. Very anxious. I couldn't attend therapy this week because of my injuries. Rant over

    Welcome to the thread.

    I'm so sorry for your loss there. I can't even imagine what that must have been like for you. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    Thank you. I don't feel strong at all. I just want to be back to a semi normal life. Anxiety is awful. I hate the panic attacks and when I'm not having a panic attack I'm scared I will have one.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Thank you. I don't feel strong at all. I just want to be back to a semi normal life. Anxiety is awful. I hate the panic attacks and when I'm not having a panic attack I'm scared I will have one.

    Anxiety is so draining i hope you get some rest at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    Anxiety is so draining i hope you get some rest at times.

    Not really at the minute. I'm having trouble sleeping. My CBT therapist has taught me some techniques but it's only short term relief. During the day I'm so busy it's normally at night that all the worries and panic set in. At the moment it's the feeling like I can't breath :/


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Night time when things go quiet is when the brain gets a chance to run amok with thoughts that don't occur when busy.. Do you listen to music? Classical and metal help me because they take some of my brain to listen to them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    Night time when things go quiet is when the brain gets a chance to run amok with thoughts that don't occur when busy.. Do you listen to music? Classical and metal help me because they take some of my brain to listen to them..

    Very true. Normally I love to read but can't even focus on that. Yes I do love music so might give that a try. It really worked for me when I was in labour a few years ago. I used to love going to concerts and festivals but haven't been able to go in years since being a mammy. Can't wait till he is old enough to bring to Electric picnic :D

    One thing my therapist said is to try and figure out when the panic attacks happen and say 'I'm ready now, lets get this panic started' It helps only sometimes. It's meant to give back some control. since the accident last weeks I feel like I can't even remember the things I've learned from CBT. Probably concussion or maybes it's just extreme panic. I dunno.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Yeah reading isn't really possible for some.. Give yourself time to recuperate and be nice to yourself..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    One thing my therapist said is to try and figure out when the panic attacks happen and say 'I'm ready now, lets get this panic started' It helps only sometimes. It's meant to give back some control.

    I was told that. I can't bring myself to say it though. :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,141 ✭✭✭Stealthfins


    I sometimes get depressed and it's very intense when it happens.
    It puts all types of thoughts into your head,I get very sensitive and need space.
    Luckily my family and girlfriend are aware when I get restless.
    6 years ago I hit a real dark patch it was horrific,my head was spinning for weeks.
    Until my gp suggested ssri's.
    Was on them for daily for 6 months,they really worked I was on 50mg of seratriline a day.
    Tapered off them after 7 months.

    Now I'm back on them again,they're working faster this time.
    Into my 7th day and the thoughts are slowing down.
    My GP says the reason I get down is because my serotonin levels drops and the medication helps bring it back to a safe level.
    I was lucky,as I was on a low dose and they didn't make me over eat,over sleep or get spaced out.
    They just took away the fear and anxiety.
    Depression is horrible

    I also attended therapy and had great support.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I was told that. I can't bring myself to say it though. :o

    It's one of those things that made (and still make) me cringe to say at times but it does get easier, my psych was discussing how repetition helps with 'rewiring the brain' not to get too technical with science stuff i don't really understand myself!.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    It's one of those things that made (and still make) me cringe to say at times but it does get easier, my psych was discussing how repetition helps with 'rewiring the brain' not to get too technical with science stuff i don't really understand myself!.

    I'm starting off with just trying to bring my attention back to the present, rather than being sad about the past or nervous about the future. I'll hold off on goading the anxiety for the moment! :D:o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Ah I see, it all takes time.. I have to, HAVE to remember to keep my practice up when I'm feeling ok though, always trip up there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Ah I see, it all takes time.. I have to, HAVE to remember to keep my practice up when I'm feeling ok though, always trip up there.

    I didn't even consider that! Thanks for the heads up, Grem. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    I was told that. I can't bring myself to say it though. :o

    I felt like a fool saying it to myself too but when I am in a panic and think I'm going to die, I'll try anything. I make sure I'm by myself though when I do say it :o:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    I felt like a fool saying it to myself too but when I am in a panic and think I'm going to die, I'll try anything. I make sure I'm by myself though when I do say it :o:o

    No need for the :o around here. This is a safe place! :) (That being said, I am prone to using :o a lot though!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Turtle_


    Hi mrsY, I dunno what help it is, but just at my last session my therapist made a good point. Just because you have a set back doesn't mean you'll go all the way back.

    You're recovering from a trauma. Try to cut yourself some slack. Anyone would be emotionally all over the place. Anyone would be anxious. Just remember you have supports around you, you have skills you can use and be reminded to use. Finding coping difficult after a traumatic crash is very normal. It doesn't mean that you're moving backwards, just that life got a lot harder very quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭via4


    Hi all I'm new to the group. The stage of my anxiety is where I can't attend most family events. My father is aware of my anxiety but says "I can't understand why you can't just go to these things and be happy". I don't like to bring everyone around me down so I avoid the events if I am not in good form as I don't feel it's fair on the partygoers. My father went to town with attacking my character yesterday. He let rip asking me why I don't go to things and I said because I am not feeling happy and I feel lonely and I have no support. He proceeded to tell me all I ever did was give out on the phone when I was a teenager( every teenage girl gossips on the phone with their friends) and that my sister had to put up with listening to me for years. He must have had a lot of built of anger towards me. He's not a very approachable man and he tends to snap at everything I say. I gave up a few years ago n I don't talk to them about my life. I feel like I can't win with him if I talk he snaps and when I don't he shouts "answer me!!!!" When I answer the insults of my character continue. So I go quiet again I just let him ramble on and I sit in silence until he's finished. Yesterday I came clean about waiting for my therapy appointment to come in order to show him I am trying to get better but he said ' I can't understand why you can't just go to the other man". I tried a man before but I didn't get good vibes from him he just sat with an expressionless face and I didn't like that but I couldn't say that to dad cos he would have screamed and said "well that's your own fault". I gave up a few years ago I Don't want a relationship with him I'm fine with this but he wants me to go up and sit in his house. But that gives him a platform to verbally attack me so I avoid this by not going up. I like to be around positive ppl that I feel care about me. I feel very worn out this week. I am going to make a plan to get back into the gym and eat healthy again. I feel this along with avoiding negativity helps with my anxiety. With my dad I'm not allowed to have feelings opinions or emotions. So I developed a robotic mode around him where I don't show any emotion or talk. I found in the past when I was struggling with a problem if I looked for advice or help I was told I was a grumpy bitch who would never meet anyone nice because I am not a nice person. I decided not to spaEk to my family about my problems after a while. If something good happened me I would be happy and excited so naturally I wanted to tell them and it would be met by negativity and snide comments. I eventually stopped talking altogether. My life is kind of a mystery to them iv had relationships they know nothing about as far as they are concerned no man wants me due to my horrible personality but I was with someone for ten years they don't know this. Right now I am wanting to focus on recovery rather than trying to please people. If this offends my father than so be it. I want to get better and feel stronger in myself. He says my problem is I hold on to things that happened years ago and I avoid situations if there is someone there I don't like and he said I shouldn't do this. But he keeps bringing up the past telling me about all my wrongdoings about letting off a bit of steam on the phone to my friends. Maybe I just felt a little stressed I was a teenage parent n I was in college full time and working I started college when my child was one so I kind of put it down to stress why I felt the need to have a bit of a moan on the phone every now and again. He sees this as the worst thing I have done in my life.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    via4 wrote: »
    Hi all I'm new to the group. The stage of my anxiety is where I can't attend most family events. My father is aware of my anxiety but says "I can't understand why you can't just go to these things and be happy". I don't like to bring everyone around me down so I avoid the events if I am not in good form as I don't feel it's fair on the partygoers. My father went to town with attacking my character yesterday. He let rip asking me why I don't go to things and I said because I am not feeling happy and I feel lonely and I have no support. He proceeded to tell me all I ever did was give out on the phone when I was a teenager( every teenage girl gossips on the phone with their friends) and that my sister had to put up with listening to me for years. He must have had a lot of built of anger towards me. He's not a very approachable man and he tends to snap at everything I say. I gave up a few years ago n I don't talk to them about my life. I feel like I can't win with him if I talk he snaps and when I don't he shouts "answer me!!!!" When I answer the insults of my character continue. So I go quiet again I just let him ramble on and I sit in silence until he's finished. Yesterday I came clean about waiting for my therapy appointment to come in order to show him I am trying to get better but he said ' I can't understand why you can't just go to the other man". I tried a man before but I didn't get good vibes from him he just sat with an expressionless face and I didn't like that but I couldn't say that to dad cos he would have screamed and said "well that's your own fault". I gave up a few years ago I Don't want a relationship with him I'm fine with this but he wants me to go up and sit in his house. But that gives him a platform to verbally attack me so I avoid this by not going up. I like to be around positive ppl that I feel care about me. I feel very worn out this week. I am going to make a plan to get back into the gym and eat healthy again. I feel this along with avoiding negativity helps with my anxiety. With my dad I'm not allowed to have feelings opinions or emotions. So I developed a robotic mode around him where I don't show any emotion or talk. I found in the past when I was struggling with a problem if I looked for advice or help I was told I was a grumpy bitch who would never meet anyone nice because I am not a nice person. I decided not to spaEk to my family about my problems after a while. If something good happened me I would be happy and excited so naturally I wanted to tell them and it would be met by negativity and snide comments. I eventually stopped talking altogether. My life is kind of a mystery to them iv had relationships they know nothing about as far as they are concerned no man wants me due to my horrible personality but I was with someone for ten years they don't know this. Right now I am wanting to focus on recovery rather than trying to please people. If this offends my father than so be it. I want to get better and feel stronger in myself. He says my problem is I hold on to things that happened years ago and I avoid situations if there is someone there I don't like and he said I shouldn't do this. But he keeps bringing up the past telling me about all my wrongdoings about letting off a bit of steam on the phone to my friends. Maybe I just felt a little stressed I was a teenage parent n I was in college full time and working I started college when my child was one so I kind of put it down to stress why I felt the need to have a bit of a moan on the phone every now and again. He sees this as the worst thing I have done in my life.

    Welcome to the thread.

    I'm so sorry to hear of your troubled relationship with your father.

    I'm glad to here that you're trying to be positive about your recovery though. Hopefully that'll go from strength to strength and you'll be in a better place.

    Please feel free to keep on posting here. It's a fantastic safe spot for support and comradeship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭via4


    Thank you hugo��Don't get me wrong I have my faults I'm trying to become a better person��I went up to the house today to build bridges it went ok��Glad I did...I treated myself to new clothes so Guna get back into the swing of things. Looking forward to getting my life back on track defo thank you x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭via4


    Sorry those question marks are supposed to be smiley faces haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Need advice.

    My friend does not understand something and I don't know how to explain it to her. She's a wonderful friend who has literally saved my life on a number of occasions. But sometimes it feels like she's wilfully not understanding.

    Recently I agreed to meet her and two others that I know in a pub. I didn't want to go, but knew I should, for my own good, to not be alone, and to be around good kind people. So I went. And I was on doctor's orders, literally, to stay for as long as I could handle it. It took a lot of effort to go. And I had a drink (non-alcoholic) and ordered food. By the time food arrived I was ready to run away screaming. But stayed. Tried to get through it. And couldn't, so I finished my food and went for the next train. My exit was rather abrupt.

    I was explaining as part of a different conversation today how I'm trying my best to get through this. Her opinion was that I sure wasn't trying in the pub. But I was. In fact I try every single waking second. I'm doing nothing but trying all the time for years, for decades in fact. That's all my life is... trying to deal with my own insides. But she doesn't think I was trying, thinks in fact that I've already given up.

    How can I explain this to her? That everything is a serious and genuine effort when you're like this. That when you can't see a way out, it doesn't actually mean you've stopped looking.

    Or can you point me to a site or resource that explains this stuff to people who don't suffer from it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Euphoria Intensifies


    Could you show her what you wrote there mickstupp? Or text it to her or something? I think what you've written explains it very succinctly. But then again, I'm coming from a similar place as you. Maybe to the outside looking in, it isn't as clear. But give it a try anyways.

    And welcome to the thread via4!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Yeah, I did that. We've been back and forth for two hours now. It ain't getting through.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,707 ✭✭✭whatismyname


    @mickstupp

    Don't know if it'd be much use if you've already been trying for a while.

    But what you wrote / asked made me think of the Black Dog video. Have you seen it?



    What you wrote made me think of a few bits of video, but particularly the 'Doing anything or going anywhere with the black dog took super-human strength' bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭via4


    I was going to say show her the message as well because you give a really good clear explanation there. Are you guys messaging back and forth for two hours? Would it be possible to give her a ring and try and explain that you are trying going into the pub was your Mount Everest and that was your achievement for that day. You did well going!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭mickstupp


    Well that conversation went south very fast. I'm going to curl up now and do nothing for a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 291 ✭✭via4


    What happened mick??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Pablodreamsofnew


    mickstupp wrote: »
    Well that conversation went south very fast. I'm going to curl up now and do nothing for a year.

    I feel your pain. Trying to get across how tough anxiety or depression is to someone who never suffered it is very hard. It's like banging your head of a brick wall. It is really tough for me to even meet a friend for coffee and when I do, I'm exhausted afterwards. On the outside I'm sure the friend doesn't even notice or maybe thinks I'm rude but the fact that I got a bus into see them is major. If your friend can't understand how much of an effort it is for you to even meet at the pub, then I don't know what you can say?!

    Could you arrange for a night at your place or would do not make a difference? Hope she understands somehow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭StripedBoxers


    What kind of work are you doing with your OT, if you don't mind me asking? Had my first appointment with mine today ... hard to know where to start!
    Thanks Hugo :)

    Yeah sure no bother. I'm eating right now but I'll do up a post and come back with it in a bit :)

    If you've any other questions etc feel free to ask :)
    Quick update: I am still working on this post, its quite detailed and lengthy as I am trying to include everything so far and explain in detail for those who may be interested.

    If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and I'll try to answer them as best I can :)
    Here is the information. If you've any other questions, want more info etc, fire away and ask :)
    I want to start off by saying I have two types of Anxiety: General Anxiety and Social Anxiety.

    I attend Occupational Therapy for Anxiety Management. Currently I am still under assessment, in my locality assessments take 6-9 months because there are only two therapists and a lot of patients. I have been under assessment since Aug/Sept of last year and currently I am about half way through my assessment, however I expect to continue OT for over a year at least with my appointments being every two weeks as for me personally that is sufficient, however each individual different and you may require weekly therapy for a shorter amount of time etc.

    For my first appointment last Aug/Sept, it took about 2-3 hours if I remember correctly, I basically went in, sat down and we both treated it as if it was a counselling session. I told my therapist everything that had happened and was currently happening, explained about my illnesses, how they affected me, my triggers etc. techniques, tricks etc. that I used to calm myself when I am anxious or worked up or stressed etc.

    Each appointment I go through how I have been in the two weeks between each appointment, if anything happens I tell her (though usually I ring her straight away and leave a voice mail and tell her as she prefers that, but each therapist is different), we talk about whatever it is that happened (if anything at all), we try and look at the positives (if there are any, if something bad happened, then we look at the strength of getting through it as the positive of whatever it is that happened).

    If nothing bad/awful has happened I tell her what has gone on in my life and we talk about it, how it affected it, made me feel etc.

    Generally, the first stage of assessment (in my experience) is finding out about you, your illness(es), your triggers, how your illnesses are triggered (mine are triggered by the environment I am in at that time), how I calm myself down in such situations, environments. If I am anxious at home, why am I anxious, what triggered it, how do I calm myself down again etc. What do I do to help me relax (exercise, long hot bath, walk, light candles, do nails etc.).

    I am currently attending therapeutic groups to help me with my social anxiety. I have a severe phobia of joining regular (i.e.: non mental health groups, always have done) groups so the smaller group which are run by the Occupational Therapy dept. here are great as everyone who attends has a mental health issue and we are all there for the same reason so unlike “regular” groups there isn’t a stigma or label attached to those who attend.

    They can be daunting at first but after the first group it does get easier esp. as a lot of the same faces will be at different groups.

    I’ve made two very good friends so far from one group, we meet up regularly, text regularly, and have since joined up more mental health groups. I have found the mental health groups much easier because there is no stigma/label or judging: we’re all there for the same reason: we all have (a) mental health issue(s).

    I am unsure as to how long more I will be under assessment, however when I “pass” the assessment stage and I am official on the Occupational Therapy list the Occupational Therapy nurse’s will call out to the house every so often (usually every 4-6 weeks, in between therapy visits I think.)

    Currently I am working on my future plans and goals, what I want to achieve, when I would like to achieve them by, what can I do to help me achieve them.

    For me personally I want to get a job so my therapy involves doing the groups to help my social anxiety and panic attacks, learning how to cope in triggering environments, situations etc.

    The groups also help with socialising (obviously), making new friends, trying new things, finding new interests and hobbies, building up my confidence and self-esteem, the goal of this is to become part of larger groups in future. Not necessarily sports, arts, music, drama etc. just large groups in general, for me, I struggle hugely with things like weddings, parties etc. I tend to just blend in as much as possible because I am so anxious I struggle with making and holding conversations, interacting with others etc.

    The groups I attend are great as they are small in numbers (numbers range from 4-20), there is a mixed age group as well which is fantastic and they run for a number of weeks so you have enough time to build relationships with others in the group and make new friends.

    Attending the group isn’t easy, especially the first couple of times but once you get over the first 3-4 times they become easier as you become more familiar with the group and those attending.

    The first group I attended, I swore I wouldn’t go back after the first day, and I missed the second day as I found it incredibly tough and challenging, but on the third week I went back after gentle persuasion from my occupational therapist and I am really glad I did go back as it gave me the confidence and courage to join other groups and slowly build up my confidence. I still can’t handle big groups, only smaller groups but over time I am sure I will be able be okay within bigger groups, though it will be a while before I get there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭La.de.da


    Mind is racing a million miles a minute.
    Feeling very detached and overwhelmed.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    La.de.da wrote: »
    Mind is racing a million miles a minute.
    Feeling very detached and overwhelmed.

    I hear ya, despite working an unorthodox schedule i still get sunday blues or something so my mind starts kicking off too. At the moment I'm all about the breathing and the focus it needs to be aware of it without affecting it..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    My sleep pattern is all over the place, I'm in a rut and no mistake


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭La.de.da


    I hear ya, despite working an unorthodox schedule i still get sunday blues or something so my mind starts kicking off too. At the moment I'm all about the breathing and the focus it needs to be aware of it without affecting it..

    Yeah I get ya. Been watching a few movies to try focus my attention.

    Few big decisions in the pipeline that are really scaring the bejaysus out of me.
    Change is something that doesn't come easy.
    Just afraid I'm going to burn out. Exhausted as it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭La.de.da


    mansize wrote: »
    My sleep pattern is all over the place, I'm in a rut and no mistake

    I hear ya. It's rotten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭carzony


    mansize wrote: »
    My sleep pattern is all over the place, I'm in a rut and no mistake

    Same as me mate. Drives me crazy and makes me look dying through the day.


    These new beta blockers are no use to me. My irratic breathing, feeling on numbness and panic feeling are still present.. Don't see the use of them if they just stop heart beating and the shakes fs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Turtle_


    carzony wrote: »
    Same as me mate. Drives me crazy and makes me look dying through the day.


    These new beta blockers are no use to me. My irratic breathing, feeling on numbness and panic feeling are still present.. Don't see the use of them if they just stop heart beating and the shakes fs

    That's unfortunate that you aren't seeing a big benefit. Probably best to keep taking them so that when you do get to see the psychiatrist you can say that you're taking them properly but they aren't effective enough.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭StripedBoxers


    Horrendous day today. Feel like there is someone sitting on my shoulders weighing me down.


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