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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    And on another note, that poor lad martin o rourke shot dead yesterday, may he RIP, Not many people give a **** about him,he just a homeless person with addiction problems .But he was an innocent young man murdered for nothing, just like Shane Geoghegan, Roy Collins, Anthony Campbell, the apprentice plumber also

    64-year-old Edward Nugent, who was shot dead outside his home in west Dublin last February,
    Anastasija Varslavane, a beautiful young Latvian woman, is missing in Ireland with Traveller Willie Maughan (34), who disappeared at the same time around April 14 last year. but the fact they were most likely murdered and secretly buried together should be a major issue in this State

    There are countless others,maybe we should all care a bit more about them then the millionaire gangsters playing poker with peoples lives.

    Something has to be done to stop this feud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,178 ✭✭✭bajer101


    you wouldnt be talking about the man in drag here would you?

    Ah no, different fella altogether. He used to be Kinahans's main man on the northside and was angered by Gary Hutch's murder. A meeting was arranged and he spotted a bloke in a balaclava and legged it. Then it all kicked off and he has sworn that it will not end until Daniel is killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Just wondering what would happen to the hitman for this botched hit? I wonder do they just release him from his contract and issue a P45;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    Amazing to think there will be more innocents killed because of gangland crime.

    Could be anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Danye wrote: »
    So the Kinihan / Russian Mob did it together?

    Sorry poster, I'm not having a go at you, but your post highlights the fact that the media know nothing.

    i know i was trying to show the media talk complete bull sometimes but the kinahans are in very tight with some russian and spanish gangsters on the costa del sol its not quiet clear who actually killed him but as the rumour goes a gangsters wife asked him to meet her in that bar where he was killed and a certain man from tallaght who escaped a bank robbery on horseback went looking for her after it extremely upset.

    id put money on it that the kinahans killed hatchets brother though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    bajer101 wrote: »
    Ah no, different fella altogether. He used to be Kinahans's main man on the northside and was angered by Gary Hutch's murder. A meeting was arranged and he spotted a bloke in a balaclava and legged it. Then it all kicked off and he has sworn that it will not end until Daniel is killed.

    i heard about the man in the media before swearing it wouldnt end until daniel was dead it said he was a close associate of gary hutch so i presumed it was the man in drag.. this man you speak would hardly go by the nickname mago would he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    bajer101 wrote: »
    Ah no, different fella altogether. He used to be Kinahans's main man on the northside and was angered by Gary Hutch's murder. A meeting was arranged and he spotted a bloke in a balaclava and legged it. Then it all kicked off and he has sworn that it will not end until Daniel is killed.

    or could you be on about the man that runs the gym if so i didnt know he had picked sides this thing is getting very messed up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭Danye


    i know i was trying to show the media talk complete bull sometimes but the kinahans are in very tight with some russian and spanish gangsters on the costa del sol its not quiet clear who actually killed him but as the rumour goes a gangsters wife asked him to meet her in that bar where he was killed and a certain man from tallaght who escaped a bank robbery on horseback went looking for her after it extremely upset.

    id put money on it that the kinahans killed hatchets brother though

    Sorry gangstergossip this isn't a personal attack on you but how do you know all this?? Where are you getting it from? Genuine question?

    Did you read it in the paper??

    That certain man from Tallaght is supposedly still in cahoots with the Kinihan crew even after they killed his best friend! The murdered mans brother & son remained friendly and associated with the Kinihans after his murder also. Surely if the Kinihan mob murdered him they'd know more than the bloody papers and not associate with them?

    Again, I'll repeat my point again, if it's that widely known the inner working of an international crime outfit, why / how are these reporters stories not consistent?

    Just as an example, for David Byrnes funeral one well known crime reporter who works for UTV tweeted saying 19 limos had left the Byrne household in Crumlin to make its way to the church. Another Sunday World reporter said 11 limos left and a Daily Star reporter said 9 limos left the house. How could they get a simple thing like that wrong?

    They make stories up to sell papers and make money not caring who they hurt in the process.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    Just on the lad that was killed yesterday. Was it really mistaken identity or is it that he owed money, flexing their muscle etc.

    If not, any idea how the mixup happened ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Just on the lad that was killed yesterday. Was it really mistaken identity or is it that he owed money, flexing their muscle etc.

    If not, any idea how the mixup happened ?

    Saying mistaken identity is probably imo given a bit more credit to the gunman then he deserves,He had a target in mind,he has been named earlier in the thread,
    This lad just happened to be where the target was suppose to be and the gunman just opened up on him, didn't give a **** who it really was, not that this will make a blind bit of difference to any further attacks, as another poster said earlier who is next ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,771 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Just on the lad that was killed yesterday. Was it really mistaken identity or is it that he owed money, flexing their muscle etc.

    If not, any idea how the mixup happened ?

    Some media reported yesterday that he was wearing the exact same jacket as the intended target. Not sure if true but the gun being found in a nearby wheelie bin smacks of amateur hour and panic to me, doesn't sound like a profeessional hit, probably more likely someone who had a debt to pay being used by the gangs to carry out the hit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,979 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Just on the lad that was killed yesterday. Was it really mistaken identity or is it that he owed money, flexing their muscle etc.

    If not, any idea how the mixup happened ?
    He was apparently wearing a similar coat to the intended target who was in the area.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Danye wrote: »
    Sorry gangstergossip this isn't a personal attack on you but how do you know all this?? Where are you getting it from? Genuine question?

    Did you read it in the paper??

    That certain man from Tallaght is supposedly still in cahoots with the Kinihan crew even after they killed his best friend! The murdered mans brother & son remained friendly and associated with the Kinihans after his murder also. Surely if the Kinihan mob murdered him they'd know more than the bloody papers and not associate with them?

    Again, I'll repeat my point again, if it's that widely known the inner working of an international crime outfit, why / how are these reporters stories not consistent?

    Just as an example, for David Byrnes funeral one well known crime reporter who works for UTV tweeted saying 19 limos had left the Byrne household in Crumlin to make its way to the church. Another Sunday World reporter said 11 limos left and a Daily Star reporter said 9 limos left the house. How could they get a simple thing like that wrong?

    They make stories up to sell papers and make money not caring who they hurt in the process.


    That's it mate in a nutshell. That's what made that seansaor fella so good,Anyway once its not interfering to much with normal Ireland the government's dont really give a fiddlers, now if that shooting had happened in the IFSC centre itself and not around a corner in a different world there be uproar and immediate action taken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Danye wrote: »
    Sorry gangstergossip this isn't a personal attack on you but how do you know all this?? Where are you getting it from? Genuine question?

    Did you read it in the paper??

    That certain man from Tallaght is supposedly still in cahoots with the Kinihan crew even after they killed his best friend! The murdered mans brother & son remained friendly and associated with the Kinihans after his murder also. Surely if the Kinihan mob murdered him they'd know more than the bloody papers and not associate with them?

    Again, I'll repeat my point again, if it's that widely known the inner working of an international crime outfit, why / how are these reporters stories not consistent?

    Just as an example, for David Byrnes funeral one well known crime reporter who works for UTV tweeted saying 19 limos had left the Byrne household in Crumlin to make its way to the church. Another Sunday World reporter said 11 limos left and a Daily Star reporter said 9 limos left the house. How could they get a simple thing like that wrong?

    They make stories up to sell papers and make money not caring who they hurt in the process.

    i get some of it from the media some from reliableish sources take nothing as fact just the same as you would the papers. When a journalist with a very good source gets a story the rest of the media jump on it change a few details and print it themselves most of the time its bull but these guys do fall out a lot of the time and get back talking because of the amount of money they can make together.Im not sure they killed hatchet is what i was saying as you said his son is still friendly with them which would be extremly ****ed up if they did kill him but i do think they had his uncle killed. im going to post a link now about his hit if you read the bottom of it it talks about him and his friend from tallaght trying to collect a debt from a guy in dublin maybe this is what it was over.As im i new user i cant post links so copy and paste and take out the spaces and it should be ok

    www. irishmirror. ie/news/irish -news/crime/ woman-set-up-costa-de l-4181112


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Some media reported yesterday that he was wearing the exact same jacket as the intended target. Not sure if true but the gun being found in a nearby wheelie bin smacks of amateur hour and panic to me, doesn't sound like a profeessional hit, probably more likely someone who had a debt to pay being used by the gangs to carry out the hit.


    it was meant to be the same guy who killed mad mickey from ballymun and hes from that area any number of safe houses he could go to and with the gun been dumped in a bin it dont matter where it was dumped once theres no dna on it he will get off scott free again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Some media reported yesterday that he was wearing the exact same jacket as the intended target. Not sure if true but the gun being found in a nearby wheelie bin smacks of amateur hour and panic to me, doesn't sound like a profeessional hit, probably more likely someone who had a debt to pay being used by the gangs to carry out the hit.

    Why would the hitter keep the gun ? its no good to anyone else and there is no shortage of them ,most guns used in professional hits as far as i know are left there, If your caught with a gun used in a previous shooting/murder you have lot more on your plate than whatever you been arrested for..The hitter escaped was most likely doubled gloved ,get rid of gun and clothes asap and you have a chance even if stopped later on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭allthedoyles




  • Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He had a speaking part in Borstal Boy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    He had a speaking part in Borstal Boy!

    must of been hoping the judge was a fan


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭from_atozinc


    A crowd that seems to be very quiet of late is the Dundon gang in Limerick and Limerick gangs in general.

    Do they have any links with what's going on my on now with the Hutch gang ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    A crowd that seems to be very quiet of late is the Dundon gang in Limerick and Limerick gangs in general.

    Do they have any links with what's going on my on now with the Hutch gang ?

    All the Dundons are locked up doing long sentences bar one, Of course the gangs in limerick are still there and still making there thousands of euros every week , What happened in limerick was the underworld of gang violence spiraled out of control,mainly due to the dundon, and started to encroach on normal society, It took a while but the government's weren't having any of that, so now its more or less back to normal with everybody back in there boxs.

    Don't know of any links to hutches or kinahan's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Why would the hitter keep the gun ? its no good to anyone else and there is no shortage of them ,most guns used in professional hits as far as i know are left there, If your caught with a gun used in a previous shooting/murder you have lot more on your plate than whatever you been arrested for..The hitter escaped was most likely doubled gloved ,get rid of gun and clothes asap and you have a chance even if stopped later on.

    The only thing that surprised me is that Sherrif St is about 100 yards from the Liffey, surprised the hitman didn't head towards the river and dump the gun there.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,856 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    kfallon wrote: »
    The only thing that surprised me is that Sherrif St is about 100 yards from the Liffey, surprised the hitman didn't head towards the river and dump the gun there.


    They'd have to traverse through ifsc area which is fully covered by manned 24 hour CCTV. Also there's no report of an escape vehicle other than the dumped bicycle, maybe he'd a safe house to go to in the immediate area?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme


    Why would the hitter keep the gun ? its no good to anyone else and there is no shortage of them ,most guns used in professional hits as far as i know are left there, If your caught with a gun used in a previous shooting/murder you have lot more on your plate than whatever you been arrested for..The hitter escaped was most likely doubled gloved ,get rid of gun and clothes asap and you have a chance even if stopped later on.


    I don't think I've ever heard of a gun being recovered at any other of the major gangland hits. To me the smart thing to do would be to take it with you and get rid of it somewhere that it's very unlikely to be found.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    A crowd that seems to be very quiet of late is the Dundon gang in Limerick and Limerick gangs in general.

    Do they have any links with what's going on my on now with the Hutch gang ?

    yea all the dundons are locked up bar one but christy keanes son liam was recently released from prison and associates of the dundons tried to kill his father not long ago so things couls start heating back up again.

    in dublin news fat freddie was stopped by gardai dressed in drag with a bullet proof vest in the drimnagh area he must be very paranoid about been taking out pressure could be getting to him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    Augme wrote: »
    I don't think I've ever heard of a gun being recovered at any other of the major gangland hits. To me the smart thing to do would be to take it with you and get rid of it somewhere that it's very unlikely to be found.

    taking the gun with you afterwards would be asking for trouble if there stopped after a hit with the gun there getting done for murder, most leave the gun in the getaway car and set it on fire no dna no case. the gun the guards found in the bin the other day more than likely will have no prints or dna on it and the guards wont be able to link it to anybody


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    the herald are claiming today that the gunman who killed martin orourke by mistake is actually good friends with the main players in the hutch mob, he grew up in the area and would have known murtagh and the rest of the main players since he was a kid.They are claiming he took up a 100 grand contract from a close associate of david byrne to kill murtagh the associate more than likely been liam byrne. they say the hitman is closely connected to a gang of young thugs from the darndale coolock area and a key member of that crew was arrested in a major operation by the organised crime unit. tipperary raid ring any bells people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    the herald are claiming today that the gunman who killed martin orourke by mistake is actually good friends with the main players in the hutch mob, he grew up in the area and would have known murtagh and the rest of the main players since he was a kid.They are claiming he took up a 100 grand contract from a close associate of david byrne to kill murtagh the associate more than likely been liam byrne. they say the hitman is closely connected to a gang of young thugs from the darndale coolock area and a key member of that crew was arrested in a major operation by the organised crime unit. tipperary raid ring any bells people

    That doesn't make sense. If he knew Murtagh so well, how did he shoot the wrong guy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    Guards are being being brought to Dublin from around the country (on overtime) for the next 5 days. Not sure if its a show of presence or to prevent something more sinister.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭gangstergossip


    pablo128 wrote: »
    That doesn't make sense. If he knew Murtagh so well, how did he shoot the wrong guy?

    i was thinking the same but apparently according to some media they were wearing the same jacket and both went to run when they seen the gun man and martin orourke ended up inbetween murtagh and the gunman when he opened fire. makes sense they knew each other though the gunman was didnt have a car he was on a bike and dumped it near by and made his escape on foot had to have been from the area


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