Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

smash

haveringchick wrote: »

But there's not one single reference in that article to the priest having referred to the deceased in "glowing terms" so maybe you posted the wrong article?

On Newstalk lunchtime yesterday he was being interviewed and referred to him as an innocent man who everyone liked, would always lend a hand and was always polite etc etc. He almost said he was a pillar of the community. You can listen back on the podcast.

haveringchick

smash wrote: »

On Newstalk lunchtime yesterday he was being interviewed and referred to him as an innocent man who everyone liked, would always lend a hand and was always polite etc etc. He almost said he was a pillar of the community. You can listen back on the podcast.

I was listening
The priest didn't know the man personally
This is now the case for the vast majority of funerals of young people
The priest is engaged to say a funeral mass for a person he doesn't know and the expectation is that the priest will eulogise the deceased during his homily
So he has to be briefed by the deceased nearest and dearest about different aspects of the dead mans character, personality etc
What do you think his heartbroken nearest and dearest said about him and what did you want the priest to say instead?
Also, why would the priest cause pandemonium in the church by saying what we all know is true? Why? What would that achieve?

blinding

I suppose the priest could have discussed his (the deceased) "Work" and remarked how successful he was and that his family could afford to be very Ostentatious with their funeral arrangements.

Its harder for a Rich Man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to go through the Eye of a Needle ! (You Know That Kind of Thing)

Ash.J.Williams

blinding wrote: »

I suppose the priest could have discussed his (the deceased) "Work" and remarked how successful he was and that his family could afford to be very Ostentatious with their funeral arrangements.

Its harder for a Rich Man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to go through the Eye of a Needle ! (You Know That Kind of Thing)

That sounds like a cnt of a priest! All passive aggressive...

shugy

smash wrote: »

On Newstalk lunchtime yesterday he was being interviewed and referred to him as an innocent man who everyone liked, would always lend a hand and was always polite etc etc. He almost said he was a pillar of the community. You can listen back on the podcast.

He probably was a polite, well liked and always lnt a hand. Just because he sold drugs and maybe did some other bad things doesnt mean he was rotten to the core. Theres good in all of us, it just depends on our circumstances and surroundings weve all been brought up in. i know people who have did time for murder and other terrible things during the troubles and now they are one of the best and decent people you will ever meet. I dont buy into all that paper talk about all these drug dealers and the wealth their supposed to have. They do this to shock society and also to sell papers. Fs i knew a guy in glasgow who was supposed to be rolling in money yet he hadnt 2d to rub together! Dont always believe what you read in the papers.

haveringchick

blinding wrote: »

I suppose the priest could have discussed his (the deceased) "Work" and remarked how successful he was and that his family could afford to be very Ostentatious with their funeral arrangements.

Its harder for a Rich Man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven than for a camel to go through the Eye of a Needle ! (You Know That Kind of Thing)

How would that go down with the assembled mourners I wonder?
The family couldn't get an undertaker and Gsrdai and everyone else IS paralysed with fear of these people but you want one unarmed man to stand up and speak out on his own
Makes sense.

shugy

allthedoyles wrote: »

not anywhere near the most expensive one , Andy Connors cost some money .
He was buried with €100,000 of his jewellery including a Rolex Presidential Diamond watch which is worth €40,000 alone.
As well as being buried in a gold-plated coffin worth €28,000

Do you people actually believe that!!! lol

blinding

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

That sounds like a cnt of a priest! All passive aggressive...

haveringchick wrote: »

How would that go down with the assembled mourners I wonder?
The family couldn't get an undertaker and Gsrdai and everyone else IS paralysed with fear of these people but you want one unarmed man to stand up and speak out on his own
Makes sense.

I thought this religious stuff was about making hard choices and not playing to the Gallery.

DEFTLEFTHAND

blinding wrote: »

I thought this religious stuff was about making hard choices and not playing to the Gallery.

Jesus forgave the criminal next to him on the cross. It's not the priest's place to condemn this man from the pulpit, in the priest's mind he believes that the Lord will decide his fate.

...And Justice

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Jesus forgave the criminal next to him on the cross. It's not the priest's place to condemn this man from the pulpit, in the priest's mind he believes that the Lord will decide his fate.

Correct, shoot them all and God will sort them out.

I still can't see them going Mexico, like some people believe, doing horrendous killings of rivals on video then posting it online.

blinding

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Jesus forgave the criminal next to him on the cross. It's not the priest's place to condemn this man from the pulpit, in the priest's mind he believes that the Lord will decide his fate.

The priest could have said that which would have been something !

flanna01

Sure wasn't the poor ould priest affiliated to the worlds biggest gang of kiddie fiddlers....???

The Catholic church may not have worn cut suits and shades, but they too, brought terror too many innocents in Dublin too...

Just saying....

JosDel

Shame on the Indo for printing the address of the house where Neddy Hutch is getting waked..

Stheno

JosDel wrote: »

Shame on the Indo for printing the address of the house where Neddy Hutch is getting waked..

Probably the safest street in Ireland this evening.

They did the same with the other guy who was buried the other day

haveringchick

blinding wrote: »

I thought this religious stuff was about making hard choices and not playing to the Gallery.

If someone comes to the church to request a Christian burial then the cleric must do his best
I don't think you know very much about funerals or humans in general

JosDel

Stheno wrote:

Probably the safest street in Ireland this evening.

Stheno wrote:

They did the same with the other guy who was buried the other day

The Indo removed the online pic with the house number printed underneath, good

Agree, a very safe house while the Gardai are present.

Don't recall seeing any photos of the hearse being carried into DBs family home or the Indo printing the actual house number?

Seriously?

People expect that the priest would do what no one here would do, stand up in front of a gathering of a criminals close family and friends and analyse their crimes and media allegations?

Midnight Sundance

Honestly, what did you expect Fr Martin to say?!! If the guards couldn't put that scumbag behind bars , what exactly was fr Martin gonna say/do?!
He's a priest, he's not meant to judge. His job was to bury a man. The guards job was to find evidence n put svumbags like him behind jail. At least the priest did his job!

haveringchick

Midnight Sundance wrote: »

Honestly, what did you expect Fr Martin to say?!! If the guards couldn't put that scumbag behind bars , what exactly was fr Martin gonna say/do?!
He's a priest, he's not meant to judge. His job was to bury a man. The guards job was to find evidence n put svumbags like him behind jail. At least the priest did his job!

There are posters here who have never been to a funeral and have no concept of the priests role in the death of a parishioner
It's staggering really

ghostfacekilla

haveringchick wrote: »

There are posters here who have never been to a funeral and have no concept of the priests role in the death of a parishioner

I thought his parish was Puerto Banus.

haveringchick

ghostfacekilla wrote: »

I thought his parish was Puerto Banus.

Died in Dublin though

blinding

So people are saying that religion is a Farce/Pantomine. It doesn't stand for anything except a fancy dress event and in this case many of the mourners also got into fancy dress.

Larsso30

totally off them point, but the Catholic Church in America have refused well known Mafioso church funerals in the past!

weldoninhio

I read in the Herald that the Gardai have warned 2 of the shooters from the Regency that their lives are in imminent danger. Ridiculous!!!

DEFTLEFTHAND

weldoninhio wrote: »

I read in the Herald that the Gardai have warned 2 of the shooters from the Regency that their lives are in imminent danger. Ridiculous!!!

I wonder why they haven't been arrested yet? The man dressed up as a woman and the fella with the cap fleeing the scene must be clearly indentifiable in the pictures the guards have.

Surely that's enough evidence to arrest and charge them.

stoplooklisten

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I wonder why they haven't been arrested yet? The man dressed up as a woman and the fella with the cap fleeing the scene must be clearly indentifiable in the pictures the guards have.

Surely that's enough evidence to arrest and charge them.

sure ya couldn't arrest them on the day of a funeral

Sunnyisland

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

I wonder why they haven't been arrested yet? The man dressed up as a woman and the fella with the cap fleeing the scene must be clearly indentifiable in the pictures the guards have.

Surely that's enough evidence to arrest and charge them.

Would they not have to find them first ?? I doubt if there sitting down in there local looking at repeats of love/hate...

JosDel

Paul Williams onThe Late Late 2moro night...

Edit typo 

refusetolose

JosDel wrote: »

Paul Williams on The Late Late tonight...

talking to the wall is it?

blinding

blinding wrote: »

So people are saying that religion is a Farce/Pantomine. It doesn't stand for anything except a fancy dress event and in this case many of the mourners also got into fancy dress.

Not at all, people are merely correcting those who think the eulogy at a funeral mass should be like a review of someone's rap sheet or an assessment of their crimes. Just because it is correctly pointed out that that is a function of the Courts does not mean every other forum is a "farce/pantomime", the Mass is not a trial and the Priest does not hand down a decision.