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GAA feeds 2016

  • 30-01-2016 7:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭


    There are unlikely to be many FTA Setanta or Sky feeds. But Dublin Kerry for Setanta is FTA tonight. Channel name Krry v Dbln Clean. Clean feeds do not have any screen captions. I can hear the RTE commentator in the background on the Setanta commentary on audio track One. Track 2 is stadium noise

    Not strong, only 8 dB.

    Eutelsat 10A (10.0°E)

    Frequency: 11144 - Pol: H - SR: 7120 - FEC: NC

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: Gaelic games/Hurling(s2/hdtv)


    I would suggest keeping all feeds for the year on this thread. During the Leagues, Sunday feeds for TG4 will sometimes allow us to see the deferred coverage game live. And sometimes there will be a feed with English commentary for RTE. It is probable however that TG4 will be using the H264 system which renders feeds incapable of being resolved by most receivers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Dbln v Krry Dirty. Only 7.6 dB.

    Eutelsat 10A (10.0°E)

    Frequency: 11135 - Pol: H - SR: 7120 - FEC: NC

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: Gaelic games/Hurling(s2/hdtv),more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Kav28


    Signalé par gir le 31/01/2016 à 14:30

    0 Commentaire


    Astra 3A-3B (23.5°E)

    Fréquence: 11625 - Pol: V - SR: 14249 - FEC: NC

    Catégorie: Sport - Rugby

    Transmis en: MPEG-4

    Infos: Id :Gaa Beo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I can't resolve that one, sound only with blotchy picture. It is Cork Mayo for TG4. It can be done on a computer with a good graphics card.

    Found the RTE feed in English on 23.5. There is probably another one somewhere for Roscommon Monaghan. The advantage of the feeds is that they are in HD. TG4 terrestrial is still SD.

    11648 V 7120. Channel name Cork v Mayo RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    IRL017 ROSCOMMON CLEAN. No commentary on this one.

    23.5 East 11479 V 7120.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Kav28


    Any sign of any feeds for todays games?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Wexford vs Clare

    Ch Name: Path 1

    23E 11588 H 7120 DVB-S2

    This is the live feed for the game that TG4 are showing deferred coverage of later.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Other Live Game on Tg4

    Kilkenny vs Tipperary

    23.5E 11510 H 14250 DVB-S2 4:2:2

    Ch Name: IRL017 Rugbai Beo

    378346.jpg

    I see TG4 has messed with their 422 encoder again. You'll need a fast processor to decode it and x264dfw installed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Other Feed Wexford vs Clare (with TG4 graphics)

    Ch Name:IRL27MAIN

    23E 11530 H 14250 DVB-S2 4:2:2

    378354.jpg

    The 4:2:2 profile being used for the on air encoder is Planar 422 YUV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    STB. wrote: »
    Other Feed Wexford vs Clare (with TG4 graphics)

    The 4:2:2 profile being used for the on air encoder is Planar 422 YUV.

    So are these only viewable on a pc now or does an Azbox still suffice?
    Thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    So are these only viewable on a pc now or does an Azbox still suffice?
    Thanks in advance

    AzBox will not work for those.

    Feed on tonight FTA Dublin Monaghan

    10 East 11127 H 7120.

    Channel name Croke Park TX. Not strong 8.4 dB.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Astra 3A-3B (23.5°E)
    Frequency: 11590 - Pol: H - SR: 7120 - FEC: NC
    Category: Sport - Autres
    Transmitted in: MPEG-4
    Comments: Gaelic games/Hurling(s2/hdtv)
    Down v Kerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Very unusual to have a TG4 feed on 4.9 East. I have the audio but as usual with the 14250 symbol rate, no video. Not strong 9dB. Channel name Corn Ui Chonchi. O'Connor Cup final, ladies colleges football. Not live on TG4 , but they have Peil na mBan at 6pm listed as live coverage in my TV listings?


    Astra 4A (4.9°E)

    Frequency: 12573 - Pol: V - SR: 14250 - FEC: 2/3

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: Ucd-Uil-Women/gaelic game/s2/8psk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    TG4 is using 4.9 East today for the Leagues. Link from yesterday has Donegal Roscommon, which will be the delayed coverage game. Throws in at 3pm.

    Two feeds for Tipperary Galway.

    Astra 4A (4.9°E)

    Frequency: 12558 - Pol: V - SR: 14250 - FEC: 2/3

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: ID: IRL017 GAA BEO GAILLMH (TG4: Galway v Tipperary) (8PSK S2/HD)


    Like the Donegal one, I get sound only. I did a blind scan and found one in the clear.

    12718 V 7120. IRL017 GALWAY TIPP.

    All these are around 9 dB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Club finals feed in HD and in English for RTE.

    23.5 East 11479 V 7120. Channel name Club Finals RTE, no captions on screen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jolatacqce


    any feed from Thurles today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    23.5E 11465 V S/R 14250 DVB-S2 4:2:2

    Channel Name: IRL017 TG4 GAA BEO INIS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    23.5E 11485 V 7120 4:2:0

    Channel Name:
    IRL017 CLARE LIMERICK CLEAN

    RTE Feed. Cusack Park


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    And the Thurles one.

    23.5E 11625 14250 V DVB-S2 4:2:2

    Channel Name: TG4 GAA DEFERRED Thurles

    380817.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    And another Thurles one

    23.5E 11640 v 7120 DVB-S2 4:2:0

    Channel Name: RTE_Clean_TX

    English Commentary.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    What is the FEC on those?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jolatacqce


    Thank you to STB for those posts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    One from Kilkenny today on 1 West as well, according to Satlliweb. I wasn't around earlier.


    Intelsat 10-02 / Thor 5 - 6 (0.8°W)

    Frequency: 11462 - Pol: V - SR: 7120 - FEC: NC

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: Kilkenny-Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    According to satelliteweb, there was another feed on 11466 v 14250, that I didn't bother looking for, yet they didn't get 3 of the other 4 that I posted which is unusual for those guys, could be signal strength.

    I had to manually guess them, as the blind feed search on my gigablue is very hit and miss.

    Anyhow the key is they are usually 20megs away from each other, with that split 14250/7120 s/r going on. The EBU frequencies used by the OB on 23.5 are nearly always in the 11k bracket.

    @dxhound, I may have found a way around the 422 feeds using e2 boxes, using the internal HDD, streaming out and back in, but it needs more time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    I could only receive the following on a 90cm dish but azbox only gave audio :(

    23.5E 11465 V S/R 14250 DVB-S2 4:2:2

    Had ok signal strength on others but no or intermittent signal quality only on one. bigger dish i guess.

    Satelliweb is invaluable but would be nice if it listed signal strength.
    Modulation fec and pilot would be nice as well obviously:)
    Many thanks stb & dxhound2005 for sharing your knowledge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jolatacqce


    On the subject of FEEDS,which box would be recognised as the no.1 for searching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jolatacqce


    please ignore the above question,as I'v found the answer on another forum.Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    jolatacqce wrote: »
    please ignore the above question,as I'v found the answer on another forum.Thank you.

    So whats the answer ?

    The answer imo is that its not a commercially available box, especially if you want to open 10bit H264 4:2:2 feeds.

    Fast HTPC territory and a TBS PCI card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭jolatacqce


    this is what I found. The Top 4
    1/Spiderbox HD9900 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 99%
    Display includes: Frequency,Symbol Rate, Modulation type DVB-S QPSK DVB-S2 8PSK or DVB-S2 QPSK,
    8 MHz stepped blind finds all transponders with symbol rates
    1,800 to 45,000 S/R
    6 MHz stepped blind scan finds all transponders with symbol rates 1,500 to 45,000 S/R
    4 MHz blind scan finds all transponders 1,200 to 45,000 S/R

    2/Spiderbox HD9000 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability 99%
    Blind Scan Specification as Spiderbox HD 9900

    3/AZBox Premium HD+ (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
    + 4:2:2 capability on the AZBox
    The stepped Blind scan @ 5 MHz finds most transponders with symbol rates from 1,500 to 45,000

    4/TM6900HDSuper+ (Blind scan range of 2000 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
    Stepped Blind Scan @ 4 MHz finds most transponders 2,200 to 45,000 Thanks to William-1.btw,this was posted in 2013.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I could only receive the following on a 90cm dish but azbox only gave audio :(

    23.5E 11465 V S/R 14250 DVB-S2 4:2:2

    Had ok signal strength on others but no or intermittent signal quality only on one. bigger dish i guess.

    Satelliweb is invaluable but would be nice if it listed signal strength.
    Modulation fec and pilot would be nice as well obviously:)
    Many thanks stb & dxhound2005 for sharing your knowledge

    You are probably using Enigma 2? You can find the FEC very quickly by System, Service Finder, Satfinder (or Signal Finder or similar). That allows you to field through the FEC and Pilot options, which only takes a short time.

    Nearly all feeds are DVB-S2 and 8PSK. Most common FEC is 3/4 and usually Pilot ON.

    Signal strength reports would not be much help, unless you knew the location and the size of the dish. Sometimes you see a comment No Signal, which is meaningless without this information. Also different receivers give different readings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Delta Lima


    "Updated here this month."

    https://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/...-2#post-963685


    So which of these boxes will do the modern 422 feeds?

    Or can any of them be used with VLC to get them?

    Thanks in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    jolatacqce wrote: »
    this is what I found. The Top 4
    1/Spiderbox HD9900 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 99%
    Display includes: Frequency,Symbol Rate, Modulation type DVB-S QPSK DVB-S2 8PSK or DVB-S2 QPSK,
    8 MHz stepped blind finds all transponders with symbol rates
    1,800 to 45,000 S/R
    6 MHz stepped blind scan finds all transponders with symbol rates 1,500 to 45,000 S/R
    4 MHz blind scan finds all transponders 1,200 to 45,000 S/R

    2/Spiderbox HD9000 (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability 99%
    Blind Scan Specification as Spiderbox HD 9900

    3/AZBox Premium HD+ (Blind scan range of 500 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
    + 4:2:2 capability on the AZBox
    The stepped Blind scan @ 5 MHz finds most transponders with symbol rates from 1,500 to 45,000

    4/TM6900HDSuper+ (Blind scan range of 2000 to 45.000 symbol rate) reliability scores 90%
    Stepped Blind Scan @ 4 MHz finds most transponders 2,200 to 45,000 Thanks to William-1.btw,this was posted in 2013.

    Wow....All at least 7 year old boxes.

    I have a CTech5000 and a Technomate 6900+ much the same box made by the same manufacturer Hubtech in Korea. Excellent boxes and highly sensitive. They now brand as Xtrend (among others).

    None of those boxes will handle H264 4.2.2 10 bit feeds (like Tg4's OB's)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    You are probably using Enigma 2? You can find the FEC very quickly by System, Service Finder, Satfinder (or Signal Finder or similar). That allows you to field through the FEC and Pilot options, which only takes a short time.

    Nearly all feeds are DVB-S2 and 8PSK. Most common FEC is 3/4 and usually Pilot ON.

    Signal strength reports would not be much help, unless you knew the location and the size of the dish. Sometimes you see a comment No Signal, which is meaningless without this information. Also different receivers give different readings.

    I cant understand the FEC question if people are using E2 receivers and just manual using the signal finder to scan the dvb-s2 channel. You dont need to change it. Also pilot doesn't need to be touched either once set to auto. The only thing you might need to change is the modulation if its QPSK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 956 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    You are probably using Enigma 2? You can find the FEC very quickly by System, Service Finder, Satfinder (or Signal Finder or similar). That allows you to field through the FEC and Pilot options, which only takes a short time.

    Nearly all feeds are DVB-S2 and 8PSK. Most common FEC is 3/4 and usually Pilot ON.

    Signal strength reports would not be much help, unless you knew the location and the size of the dish. Sometimes you see a comment No Signal, which is meaningless without this information. Also different receivers give different readings.

    Thanks dx
    I am still on original fw and am used to scrolling through the Fec and pilot options, i have noticed that most are s2 8psk 3/4 and pilot on.
    Main issue is that my dish is only 90cm so can only tune some feeds.
    As they say size only matters to those that dont have it :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    23.5E 11515 H 7120 QPSK 9/10

    Eng Audio/Crowd Noise audio feeds

    IRL017 KERRY CORK CLEAN


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    2pm Kerry vs Roscommon

    4pm Donegal vs Dublin

    23.5E 11515 V S/R 7120 DVB-S2

    No station name yet, possibly the RTE clean offair feed.

    and the second RTE feed which is the high behind/crowd camera.

    23.5E 11525 H 7120 DVB-S2

    Ch Name: League Semis RTE
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    and the TG4 4:2:2 feed

    23.5 11510 H 14250 DVB-S2 (H264 4:2:2)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    STB. wrote: »
    2pm Kerry vs Roscommon

    4pm Donegal vs Dublin

    23.5E 11515 V S/R 7120 DVB-S2

    No station name yet, possibly the RTE clean offair feed.

    and the second RTE feed which is the high behind/crowd camera.

    23.5E 11525 H 7120 DVB-S2

    Ch Name: League Semis RTE
    382816.jpg
    382817.jpg

    11515 V is not GAA. Channel name NT Live, encrypted. NT Live is used by the National Theatre in London for cinema feeds, but always FTA and never on 23.5 East before, so it must be something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    11515 V is not GAA. Channel name NT Live, encrypted. NT Live is used by the National Theatre in London for cinema feeds, but always FTA and never on 23.5 East before, so it must be something else.

    So I see. RTE normally have a high behind camera which is stationary TP frequency and used for crowd zoomed shots/head on and thats what they had on 11525 H initially. But they are now vision mixing live on that frequency!

    BTW. You may know this, but as you use one, you might be interested to know that the TBS 5925 can now be added on to E2 boxes as a tuner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭tapfit2004


    STB. wrote: »
    BTW. You may know this, but as you use one, you might be interested to know that the TBS 5925 can now be added on to E2 boxes as a tuner.

    What does this tuner have on the standard tuners in enigma boxes.

    Would it let you view 4.2.2 feeds directly on your tv?

    I bought an azbox for this a few years back but it was very badly supported by the original manufacturer and the enigma2 software developed for it wasn't really stable enough for everyday use.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    tapfit2004 wrote: »
    What does this tuner have on the standard tuners in enigma boxes.

    Would it let you view 4.2.2 feeds directly on your tv?

    I bought an azbox for this a few years back but it was very badly supported by the original manufacturer and the enigma2 software developed for it wasn't really stable enough for everyday use.

    Scanning of Multistream channels and ACM/VCM 16APSK/32APSK.

    4:2:2 feeds. No, not the H264 10bit ones. Unless the software/hardware on the main unit supports it. Like any tuner it will find them, the decoding is done by the software/CPU/Drivers on the main board though.....software decoding would require high CPU and the right FFMEG compiled for E2, which must be out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    RTE Feed

    23.5E 11545 V 7120 DVB-S2

    Ch Name: League Semis RTE

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    I am not getting anything on 11545. I get the RTE feed on 11638 but very weak today, 8 dB and breakup.


    Astra 3A-3B (23.5°E)

    Frequency: 11638 - Pol: V - SR: 7120 - FEC: NC

    Category: Sport - Autres

    Transmitted in: MPEG-4

    Comments: Gaelic games/Hurling(s2/hdtv)


    GAA Beo feed on 11625 V is also weak 8.8 dB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    @DXhound.

    There is a 10 meg spread between 11635 to 11645 with equal power according to my tune earlier. TVM's gear must be off with the bandwidth so wide.

    Perfectly watchable, despite being down 20% in strength.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,302 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    You had a typo 11545 instead of 11645.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Well spotted. 100 meg sidebands would be something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭tapfit2004


    STB. wrote: »
    Scanning of Multistream channels and ACM/VCM 16APSK/32APSK.

    4:2:2 feeds. No, not the H264 10bit ones. Unless the software/hardware on the main unit supports it. Like any tuner it will find them, the decoding is done by the software/CPU/Drivers on the main board though.....software decoding would require high CPU and the right FFMEG compiled for E2, which must be out there.

    Thanks for the reply. I presume the azbox did it through hardware decoding as the CPU's weren't really fast.

    Are many feeds gone 16/32ASPK?

    I presume there is the right FFMPG for linux but would a 1.3ghz enigma box be up to the decoding if it was compiled to run in enigma?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    tapfit2004 wrote: »
    Thanks for the reply. I presume the azbox did it through hardware decoding as the CPU's weren't really fast.

    Are many feeds gone 16/32ASPK?

    I presume there is the right FFMPG for linux but would a 1.3ghz enigma box be up to the decoding if it was compiled to run in enigma?

    Yes hardware, but the Azbox had limitations when it came to H264 422 transport streams.

    There are a few APSK feeds, but the TBS cards also handle PLS/Multistream channels like the Mediaset channels which normal tuners don't. There is a good discussion going on on the OpenPLI forum with tuner gurus and coders, with plenty of gratuitous screen shots etc (some are in the Vu 4K thread).

    http://forums.openpli.org/topic/30113-tbs-5925/

    PLS Options
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    23.5E 11640 v 7120 dvb-s2

    Channel Name: RTE CLEAN TX


    13:30 Div 2 League Final Cavan vs Tyrone

    15:30 Div 1 League Final Dublin vs Kerry

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    and ladies beforehand

    23.5E 11480 V S/R 7120 DVB-S2

    Ch Name: RTE League Finals

    1920 x 1080

    384793.jpg


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