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Xtravision liquidation

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    I just think its another deathknell for rural towns and so on. Post offices closing, garda stations, pubs, factories and so on as well as hopeless broadband. Now the local video rental shops closing, for many the only place to rent DVDs due to crap broadband. Not everyone in Ireland has superfast broadband at their fingertips. Once you go outside cities, its patchy at best and in many places non existent. You are talking mobile broadband and the like with monthly limits and very slow speed. Another example or urban-rural divide. I for one will miss Xtravision. We buy too much stuff online from retailers many of whom are based abroad, often to the detriment of local shops and businesses.

    There's no such thing as rural towns. Towns are urban areas and they usually have good broadband in Ireland because they're large enough. A town is classified as an urban area with a population of at least 7,500 people - that's plenty of customers for Eircom to profit from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭s8n


    they have no one to blame but themselves, business model was outdated. They had a habit of advertising incredible offers on games but they were constantly "out of stock"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    s8n wrote: »
    they have no one to blame but themselves, business model was outdated. They had a habit of advertising incredible offers on games but they were constantly "out of stock"

    Good riddance to it, too. CDs and DVDs are easily damaged, I've lost many games that I can't play anymore. Digital download is the way forward.

    I have a custom build computer and I didn't even put a CD/DVD drive in it because you just don't need them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    I'm enjoying people being conservative about the medium in which they store files. I can just imagine people doing similar when indoor plumbing became a thing. "What? You **** in it and then flush? OK clever clogs and what happens when I fall in? **** that. In ****ting in the garden."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭arrianalexander


    s8n wrote: »
    they have no one to blame but themselves, business model was outdated. They had a habit of advertising incredible offers on games but they were constantly "out of stock"

    Hilco their parent company liquided the company, to say they have no one to blame but themselves, who you refer to?

    Hilco aren't blaming themselves, they have already moved on, they haven't the decency to pay the workers. Even though they own hmv Ireland and the company running xtra vision vending machines. And they will go back in to reopen some of the profit making stores

    Xtra vision headoffice bar two people didn't know anything about the liquidation and them two people are still running hmv Ireland. So I doubt they are blaming themselves since they still have a job.

    So rather us saying they have no one to blame but themselves , lets blame hilco for making the taxpayer pay the redundancy if all the workers.

    Blame the government for letting this happen over and over again. They can't protect businesses that are in decline but they can protect employees and stop people like hilco washing their hands of their responsibilities

    How do I know all of this I worked for xtra vision , yes I knew it was in decline but I thought if we closed I'd get what I deserved. I don't want my money from the state I want it from Hilco.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    511 wrote: »
    Good riddance to it, too. CDs and DVDs are easily damaged, I've lost many games that I can't play anymore. Digital download is the way forward.

    I have a custom build computer and I didn't even put a CD/DVD drive in it because you just don't need them.

    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    I'm enjoying people being conservative about the medium in which they store files. I can just imagine people doing similar when indoor plumbing became a thing. "What? You **** in it and then flush? OK clever clogs and what happens when I fall in? **** that. In ****ting in the garden."

    Thats a very short sighted viewpoint.

    Someone can have a large library of cheap CD/DVDs. The cost of getting that delivered and stored digitally,the retail infrastructure (and that of the local consumer) is vastly more expensive.

    Even on a more simplistic level. If you were on holidays in a place with no BB. There is a big difference in cost between bringing a cheap DVD player and a few DVDs, and having a laptop or tablet, and digitising movies.

    People with good BB, seem to forget that not everyone has it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    Outside of major towns and cities especially for people living rurally (yes they exist) streaming movies is not an option. ...

    Its not just rural areas. many places in cities can't get BB because of cabling problems, or exchange problems. I'm in Dublin, and can get UPC. But I can't get any telephone based BB because no one (ISP) will fix the line.

    People do the same blinked thinking with things like instant messaging. Not everyone has constant access to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Hilco their parent company liquided the company, to say they have no one to blame but themselves, who you refer to?

    Hilco aren't blaming themselves, they have already moved on, they haven't the decency to pay the workers. Even though they own hmv Ireland and the company running xtra vision vending machines. And they will go back in to reopen some of the profit making stores

    Xtra vision headoffice bar two people didn't know anything about the liquidation and them two people are still running hmv Ireland. So I doubt they are blaming themselves since they still have a job.

    So rather us saying they have no one to blame but themselves , lets blame hilco for making the taxpayer pay the redundancy if all the workers.

    Blame the government for letting this happen over and over again. They can't protect businesses that are in decline but they can protect employees and stop people like hilco washing their hands of their responsibilities

    How do I know all of this I worked for xtra vision , yes I knew it was in decline but I thought if we closed I'd get what I deserved. I don't want my money from the state I want it from Hilco.


    You say you knew it was decline, had you any idea it would just close shop? In the post I wrote above. People were told not to worry only 29 stores closing and the rest are combined with hmv, so your jobs are save. Were you told this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭stanley1


    Passed the shop in Ashleaf this morning, everything packed in boxes ready to be shipped out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭arrianalexander


    You say you knew it was decline, had you any idea it would just close shop? In the post I wrote above. People were told not to worry only 29 stores closing and the rest are combined with hmv, so your jobs are save. Were you told this?


    We were always told we were same company. Whether we thought our stores would stay open or close is irrelevant now. The angry amongst employees isn't that we closed (obviously we are upset and sad to lose our jobs) it is we have to wait for the state to pay us while hilco still take profits from hmv , hmv who we were told all along were same company as us

    We used same systems, same warehouse, sane hr department etc

    Hilco created separate companies in order to walk away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭LDN_Irish


    beauf wrote: »
    Thats a very short sighted viewpoint.

    Someone can have a large library of cheap CD/DVDs. The cost of getting that delivered and stored digitally,the retail infrastructure (and that of the local consumer) is vastly more expensive.

    Even on a more simplistic level. If you were on holidays in a place with no BB. There is a big difference in cost between bringing a cheap DVD player and a few DVDs, and having a laptop or tablet, and digitising movies.

    People with good BB, seem to forget that not everyone has it.

    Have you read the thread? There's a minority among us who won't use digital file not because they live in hell or Connaught where there no decent broadband, but because it's inferior to holding files on a disc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,561 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    We were always told we were same company. Whether we thought our stores would stay open or close is irrelevant now. The angry amongst employees isn't that we closed (obviously we are upset and sad to lose our jobs) it is we have to wait for the state to pay us while hilco still take profits from hmv , hmv who we were told all along were same company as us

    We used same systems, same warehouse, sane hr department etc

    Hilco created separate companies in order to walk away


    I can understand your anger, best of luck with the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,604 ✭✭✭Testament1


    You say you knew it was decline, had you any idea it would just close shop? In the post I wrote above. People were told not to worry only 29 stores closing and the rest are combined with hmv, so your jobs are save. Were you told this?

    I walked past the Xtra Vision in Ennis a week or 2 ago and there was a sign in the window saying Now Hiring. Walked past it yesterday and there was stock being brought out in cardboard boxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,461 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    LDN_Irish wrote: »
    Have you read the thread? There's a minority among us who won't use digital file not because they live in hell or Connaught where there no decent broadband, but because it's inferior to holding files on a disc.

    I think you misinterpreted my comment before quoting it.

    Maybe you could elaborate, on what your point is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Was never a great fan of Xtravison, but it's a pity these rental shops are closing.

    I'm still crying over Laser shutting down. :( They had a selection that you will NEVER see replicated on the likes of Netflix.

    It used to be great going into a video shop and getting a few vids to watch for a quiet weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Ascendant


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Was never a great fan of Xtravison, but it's a pity these rental shops are closing.

    I'm still crying over Laser shutting down. :( They had a selection that you will NEVER see replicated on the likes of Netflix.

    It used to be great going into a video shop and getting a few vids to watch for a quiet weekend.

    Indeed, there was always something new and interesting on Laser's shelves.

    Some of their selection has made their way to Dublin City Libraries, who haven't even removed the Laser stickers on some. For which I'm glad - Laser: gone but not forgotten.


  • Posts: 305 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just read a piece in local paper this evening that some Xtravision stores may now reopen as HMV.

    Hilco Capital, the company that owns both Xtravision and HMV apparently told last week's High Court hearing that it may seek to rehire some Xtravision staff and reopen some stores under the HMV brand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,403 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Just read a piece in local paper this evening that some Xtravision stores may now reopen as HMV.

    Hilco Capital, the company that owns both Xtravision and HMV apparently told last week's High Court hearing that it may seek to rehire some Xtravision staff and reopen some stores under the HMV brand.

    us in Waterford City only have golden discs store so we need a big name store to come in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,143 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    That's great news. Do we know how many jobs will be added back when some of these stores are re-opened.


  • Posts: 305 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That's great news. Do we know how many jobs will be added back when some of these stores are re-opened.


    There was no mention of how many jobs or when exactly some of the stores might re-open; will have to wait for further news to emerge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Dunno how they lasted this long even . Cant understand how they would have made a profit any of the years since netflix was released. Im sure they were spending more keeping the stores open than they were making in profit since the end of the celtic tiger


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭philstar


    how about the vending machines are they still in use??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,787 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    That's great news. Do we know how many jobs will be added back when some of these stores are re-opened.

    No doubt, they'll take back the cheaper workers, or new immigrant workers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,179 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    philstar wrote: »
    how about the vending machines are they still in use??

    It's been mentioned before in this thread that they're run by a separate company to the Xtra-Vision chain of shops.


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tony EH wrote: »
    I'm still crying over Laser shutting down. :( They had a selection that you will NEVER see replicated on the likes of Netflix.

    It used to be great going into a video shop and getting a few vids to watch for a quiet weekend.
    Ascendant wrote: »
    Indeed, there was always something new and interesting on Laser's shelves.

    Some of their selection has made their way to Dublin City Libraries, who haven't even removed the Laser stickers on some. For which I'm glad - Laser: gone but not forgotten.

    Laser was brilliant but I just want to confirm that if you want world cinema, there is nowhere better now than your local library. If they don't have it they can see if it's in any of the other libraries in the state and order it in. You can also find rare cds this way. The local library is a fantastic, hugely underused resource. (you can even download ebooks and audiobooks now, for example if you join Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown library check out this page)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The Library is something I've never tried for a film.

    I'll have to give it a swing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭eamondunphy


    Does anyone know if there are any vending machines near Tallaght or walkinstown in dublin?

    I used Xtra vision every week, will miss it big time :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭cowboyBuilder


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Was never a great fan of Xtravison, but it's a pity these rental shops are closing.

    I'm still crying over Laser shutting down. :( They had a selection that you will NEVER see replicated on the likes of Netflix.

    It used to be great going into a video shop and getting a few vids to watch for a quiet weekend.

    :( was that the place near Wicklow street ?

    Pity, they were awesome ...


  • Posts: 5,250 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If people are saying that they will miss Xtra-Vision and that they won't be able to rent or download movies - there will be a business opportunity to plug this gap.

    I feel sorry for those who are being left behind - but I don't see a sustainable business arising from the ashes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,500 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    :( was that the place near Wicklow street ?

    Pity, they were awesome ...

    There was one on George's Street (near Wicklow Street) and one in Renelagh.

    Was a customer of theirs since the early 90's. A great source of hard to find films.


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