Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi spoilers from Post 2857

Brief_Lives · 04-01-2016 3:07pm #1

Star Wars: Episode VIII will be released on May 26th, 2017.

http://bgr.com/2016/01/02/star-wars-episode-viii-script-jj-abrams/

‘Star Wars: Episode VIII’ script is so incredible that J.J. Abrams now regrets not directing it.

...Star Wars: Episode VIII may be a bit different than Episode VII because of an entirely new writing and directorial team. Whereas Episode VII was co-written and directed by J.J. Abrams, Episode VIII will be written and directed by Rian Johnson. Johnson’s previous film credits include Looper and Brick. Johnson, we should add, has also directed three Breaking Bad episodes, including the widely beloved episode Ozymandias and the widely criticized episode Fly.

While details surrounding the upcoming Star Wars film remain scarce, J.J. Abrams, for one, is incredibly excited about the film. In fact, Abrams found the script for the film so compelling that he recently expressed regret for not being on-board as the director.

http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars/248836/star-wars-episode-viii-news-release-date-casting-story-details-and-more

Principal photography for Rian Johnson's Episode VIII will begin in January

(If there is an existing thread, delete/merge this one mods, thanks)

04-01-2016 3:29pm

I'm not all that optimistic with Rian Johnson at the helm

Theboinkmaster · 04-01-2016 3:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not all that optimistic with Rian Johnson at the helm

I'd be the opposite tbh, I think it could be better than TFA.

Brief_Lives · 04-01-2016 3:52pm

Episode VII has set up a lot of threads very quickly...
the New big 3 of Rey, Poe and Finn will have much to do.
Chewy will be back.

Luke obviously
Leah and R2D2 + C3PO will have their bits...

Chewy and R2D2 were on the Falcon, on the planet Ahch-To, when Rey went to meet Luke.

I´m looking forward to seeing Kylo and Snoke in action and Luke and Rey on the skelligs...
I presume we will see more of Captain Phasma and maybe some memories of Max von Sydow (that can´t have been it for those 2)..

Brief_Lives · 04-01-2016 3:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not all that optimistic with Rian Johnson at the helm

I don´t know much about Johnson, i had a quick look at his IMDB stats..
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0426059/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

he directed Looper, and some breaking bad episodes..

Sad Professor · 04-01-2016 3:59pm

Johnson is the reason I am optimistic about Episode 8. I can’t think of a better person for the job.

04-01-2016 4:44pm

Brief_Lives wrote: »

I don´t know much about Johnson, i had a quick look at his IMDB stats..
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0426059/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

he directed Looper, and some breaking bad episodes..

I'm basing my opinion mostly on Looper, it didn't make a lick of sense

pixelburp · 04-01-2016 5:43pm

Having seen Looper and Brick I think Johnson has the chops & creative sensibility to put his own unique stamp on the sequel; I re-watched Looper the other week & it's still a slick, off-kilter & oddball thriller with equally excellent world-building in its foundation - a concept that in many ways is a prerequisite with the Star Wars universe.

By sheer numbers, his CV is slim, but he seems to have a visual flourish and identity that other 'newbie' directors thrust into a big Hollywood gig don't seem to possess (though one of those newbies, Colin Trevarrow, has the Episode IX job, and based on Jurassic World I have reduced expectations there)

S.M.B. · 04-01-2016 9:21pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Having seen Looper and Brick I think Johnson has the chops & creative sensibility to put his own unique stamp on the sequel; I re-watched Looper the other week & it's still a slick, off-kilter & oddball thriller with equally excellent world-building in its foundation - a concept that in many ways is a prerequisite with the Star Wars universe.

By sheer numbers, his CV is slim, but he seems to have a visual flourish and identity that other 'newbie' directors thrust into a big Hollywood gig don't seem to possess (though one of those newbies, Colin Trevarrow, has the Episode IX job, and based on Jurassic World I have reduced expectations there)

Thought Johnson was directing VIII and IX. That's disappointing to hear.

To be honest, what Johnson does with this installment will flavour my thoughts on The Force Awakens. If Johnson has the permission to be inventive and break away from the familiarity of Episode VII then I'll probably look at Abrams attempt more favourably.

Arne_Saknussem · 04-01-2016 9:28pm

S.M.B. wrote: »

Thought Johnson was directing VIII and IX. That's disappointing to hear.

To be honest, what Johnson does with this installment will flavour my thoughts on The Force Awakens. If Johnson has the permission to be inventive and break away from the familiarity of Episode VII then I'll probably look at Abrams attempt more favourably.

Johnson is writing both scripts for the next 2 films but is only directing the next one.

Also agree that ep VII can be looked on as a good bridge if ep VIII is a proper departure.

S.M.B. · 04-01-2016 9:43pm

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Johnson is writing both scripts for the next 2 films but is only directing the next one.

Also agree that ep VII can be looked on as a good bridge if ep VIII is a proper departure.

That explains my confusion. Trevarrow could do an adequate job directing a script written by Johnson.

Sad Professor · 04-01-2016 10:01pm

Johnson is only providing a treatment for Episode 9, not the whole script. I'd imagine this will mainly amount to having a few story meetings. Trevorrow – and I assume his writing partner Derek Connolly – will write the film as they see fit.

Turtyturd · 05-01-2016 1:49pm

If it can have half the tension of the 'Fly' episode of Breaking Bad it'll be a good movie. Really don't get the hate for that episode.

Also really enjoyed Looper so have high hopes for this personally.

Penn · 05-01-2016 2:17pm

Turtyturd wrote: »

If it can have half the tension of the 'Fly' episode of Breaking Bad it'll be a good movie. Really don't get the hate for that episode.

Also really enjoyed Looper so have high hopes for this personally.

I know he didn't write it, but he did direct Ozymandias, the best episode of Breaking Bad. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for anything now.

Sad Professor · 05-01-2016 2:58pm

Even if he hadn’t directed Looper or Breaking Bad, I’d still be optimistic. I re-watched Brick and The Brothers Bloom recently and they are both excellent films. Johnson is a student of cinema who draws on a diverse pool of influences for every film. From populist to avant-garde, there’s a bit of everything in his work. And he’s not afraid to mix and match genres. Looper goes from an homage to ‘80s time travel movies to Witness in its second half and somehow he makes it work.

homerun_homer · 05-01-2016 2:59pm

I'm looking forward to what Rhian does with VIII. I really liked Brick, Looper was enjoyable but didn't live up to the hype for me. I found it too easy to pick apart but it is a good sci-fi yarn if you forget about trying to make the logic work.

Trevorrow has always troubled me with being on board for Ep IX. I worry he'll make a mess of it. He hasn't a good track record outside of making a mint off the back of a pre-existing franchise. I hated Jurassic World, I don't even rate it higher than Jurassic Park 3!! I'm hoping with Rhian's influence, the practical effects already brought on board that if he can then competently direct it, it could be salvaged.

Brief_Lives · 05-01-2016 3:32pm

Some possible comments referring to the amount of screen time the Skellig has in Episode VIII here..

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/12/a-star-wars-the-force-awakens-set-returns-for-star-wars-episode-viii/

eviltimeban · 06-01-2016 5:19pm

I wonder will Luke and Rey be on Skellig for most of the movie, a la Luke on Dagobah in Empire?

I hope we see a bit more of Poe Dameron, seemed like he was going to be the cocky smart arse replacement Han Solo, but then he sort of disappeared in TFA and reappeared in just "awesome pilot" mode.

Couldn't care less about C3PO, I hope he won't be in it that much. Not much more that character can bring to the series.

Falthyron · 06-01-2016 7:36pm

eviltimeban wrote: »

I hope we see a bit more of Poe Dameron, seemed like he was going to be the cocky smart arse replacement Han Solo, but then he sort of disappeared in TFA and reappeared in just "awesome pilot" mode.

I believe he was originally supposed to be killed off when the TIE-Fighter crashes on Jakku. Then J.J. was tinkering with the script and found a way to bring him back into it. J.J. has a habit of doing these sorts of things. In LOST, Matthew Fox died in the pilot episode but test audiences hated it, saying you couldn't kill the leading actor the story follows. :P

Ridley · 07-01-2016 12:44am

As one of the few not so keen on VII, I hope with all the characters in place VIII will be more its own thing rather than a remix of the original trilogy.

jaykhunter · 08-01-2016 12:09am

Ridley wrote: »

As one of the few not so keen on VII, I hope with all the characters in place VIII will be more its own thing rather than a remix of the original trilogy.

Agreed. But worst case scenario, they rip off Empire, and it'll be great

Ridley · 08-01-2016 4:03am

jaykhunter wrote: »

Agreed. But worst case scenario, they rip off Empire, and it'll be great

If they're doing the dark middle chapter/good guys lose thang,

Kylo Ren's MO of being all Vader without any Anakin

could be amazing.

Chain Smoker · 08-01-2016 12:36pm

I'm not a huge Rian Johnson fan, he seems like someone who has built up a rep a bit bigger than he deserves by being quite pally with film critics. That being said, he's a far more interesting choice than I'd've expected for such an important Disney franchise's key film (in comparison to JJ Abrams and Colin Trevorrow the guy who directed Jurassic World), coupled with how TFA, to me, was a really well executed setup for the next film (I honestly expect VIII to be released to a bigger wave of hype than VII now, that's an amazing achievement ), I'm definitely eagerly anticipating it, both as a potentially really good film and for how it will outline what the format of all upcoming Star Wars sequels will be (and there's going to be absolutely tons of them, in fairness).

The impression I'm getting is that there'll be one major film every two years or so and all the spin-offs will be not so tightly related to those to avoid watering down the core brand any more than they must do. If they instead decide to go the Marvel route of everything tying together quite a lot, I'll be completely done with the franchise before IX comes out for sure.

Oafley Jones · 08-01-2016 12:36pm

Falthyron wrote: »

I believe he was originally supposed to be killed off when the TIE-Fighter crashes on Jakku. Then J.J. was tinkering with the script and found a way to bring him back into it. J.J. has a habit of doing these sorts of things. In LOST, Matthew Fox died in the pilot episode but test audiences hated it, saying you couldn't kill the leading actor the story follows. :P

Jack was only supposed to be killed off when they were gunning for Michael Keaton to play him for the opening. They toyed with the idea after, but decided that once Fox was cast it was better to retain him for the run of the series. Jack being killed was never filmed. The only test audiences these things see is executives and their families.

I think that most of the hate for Fly comes from the fact that it's a Bottle episode.

Wedwood · 08-01-2016 9:27pm

Looking forward to seeing Mark Hamill actually do something in the new movie. Question is will Kylo make it 'strike 2' &#55357;&#56880;

RoadhouseBlues · 09-01-2016 12:36am

Wedwood wrote: »

Looking forward to seeing Mark Hamill actually do something in the new movie. Question is will Kylo make it 'strike 2' ��

I was talking about this last week. I think Luke will be killed off in the next one, and it will be set up then for the third one where Rey and Kylo go head to head again. Of course I am probably completely wrong:). All I know is I can't wait for the next one:)

B.A._Baracus · 09-01-2016 1:10am

RoadhouseBlues wrote: »

I was talking about this last week. I think Luke will be killed off in the next one, and it will be set up then for the third one where Rey and Kylo go head to head again. Of course I am probably completely wrong:). All I know is I can't wait for the next one:)

I fear you might be right. Kill off luke so it adds more to the final Rey vs Ren battle

It is about the new cast.

Personally I think Luke shouldn't die in the new trilogy. While it's of course still early days to tell what will happen. It does appear that it's Rey vs Ren while Finn and Poe vs the first order. Mirroring the originals. However someone has to stop Snoke. So it does make sense to have the only master jedi in the universe go against the biggest sith/evil dude/whatever he may be named Snoke.

RoadhouseBlues · 09-01-2016 1:16am

Its going to be a long feckin' wait. I'm excited though. Its brought the old feelings back again. I will have to hunt out my ROTJ annual and go through it some night. While the wind is howling outside and the rain hammering the windows.....ahhhhhhhh:-)

11-01-2016 3:55pm

I just hope Mark Hamill isn't ****. He's not great in the originals.

eviltimeban · 11-01-2016 4:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I just hope Mark Hamill isn't ****. He's not great in the originals.

He's freakin' Luke Skywalker, man. He'll be alright.

SpaceCowb0y · 11-01-2016 4:04pm

jaykhunter wrote: »

Agreed. But worst case scenario, they rip off Empire, and it'll be great

Oh God... i hadn't even thought of that possibility but after the way TFA went nothing will surprise me! :pac:

kirk buttercup · 11-01-2016 4:14pm

tbh I think the next one will go off in a completely new direction Disney are in this for the long Haul, "if" they were just to remake the original trilogy interest would be lost from the fans and there is no way disney would risk that they need to keep people guessing.
TFA was in a way a meeting up with old friends while introducing a new generation to old favourites while bringing in new characters now they will push on with new ideas.

TerrorFirmer · 11-01-2016 4:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I just hope Mark Hamill isn't ****. He's not great in the originals.

I know he doesn't really act anymore, but he does a lot of voice work and he's incredible. I'm not worried about him at all.

11-01-2016 4:51pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I know he doesn't really act anymore, but he does a lot of voice work and he's incredible. I'm not worried about him at all.

His Joker stuff is great

Kirby · 12-01-2016 9:14pm

He has been in a few episodes of the Flash recently so he does still act. The character is the Trickster, but he's using his Joker voice and its filled with joker insanity. He's had fun with it.

david75 · 12-01-2016 11:46pm

Oooh. Goodie goodie

Colin Trevorrow Promises "Satisfying" Resolution to Rey's Parentage Mystery

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2016/01/colin-trevorrow-promises-satisfying.html?m=1

homerun_homer · 13-01-2016 11:32am

He was also in Kingsmen. I look forward to seeing what he'll be like in the next episode.

Red King · 13-01-2016 12:03pm

John Boyega has said that Episode 8 will be much darker. Rian Johnson has also described it as weird

Beicio del Toro confirmed as a villain

Mitch Connor · 13-01-2016 1:31pm

Kirby wrote: »

He has been in a few episodes of the Flash recently so he does still act. The character is the Trickster, but he's using his Joker voice and its filled with joker insanity. He's had fun with it.

From what I read - it is a similar to the performance he gave as Trickster in the TV show years ago; and it was those performances that got him the Joker gig. So Joker copied Trickster!

Penn · 13-01-2016 1:46pm

Red King wrote: »

Beicio del Toro confirmed as a villain

Another of the Knights of Ren, perhaps, while Kylo Ren licks his wounds?

homerun_homer · 13-01-2016 2:33pm

Penn wrote: »

Another of the Knights of Ren, perhaps, while Kylo Ren licks his wounds?

I'd find it hard to imagine Beniccio as someone who reports to Kylo as Master of the Knights of Ren.

weemcd · 13-01-2016 5:02pm

Gonna throw my hat in here and say that Beniccio is gonna be the one to train Kylo.

Red King · 13-01-2016 5:55pm

weemcd wrote: »

Gonna throw my hat in here and say that Beniccio is gonna be the one to train Kylo.

Doubt it. Snoke said he wanted to complete Rens training and he is played by Andy Serkis.

I reckon Del Toro will be a third party independent villain of the criminal type like Jabba

Falthyron · 13-01-2016 6:16pm

Red King wrote: »

I reckon Del Toro will be a third party independent villain of the criminal type like Jabba

I would agree with this. I think Finn will have some ridiculous bounty on his head and Del Toro might be the one pursuing him, a new Boba Fett perhaps.

Sad Professor · 13-01-2016 6:22pm

Falthyron wrote: »

I would agree with this. I think Finn will have some ridiculous bounty on his head and Del Toro might be the one pursuing him, a new Boba Fett perhaps.

Phasma would be the natural choice for this.

Del Toro might be playing a Lando-type character. Someone with ambiguous motives.

david75 · 13-01-2016 9:48pm

Falthyron wrote: »

I would agree with this. I think Finn will have some ridiculous bounty on his head and Del Toro might be the one pursuing him, a new Boba Fett perhaps.

I love this idea. You don't hire del toro to be a good guy. Just as you don't hire Johnson to make a happy film.

Mitch Connor · 14-01-2016 9:02am

david75 wrote: »

I love this idea. You don't hire del toro to be a good guy. Just as you don't hire Johnson to make a happy film.

My mate reckons the two directors for 8 and 9 have been chosen because they have name recognition, but Disney still feel they can control them because they aren't at the level of Nolan, for example, in terms of being able to demand autonomy. I countered that surely JJ doesn't fit that criteria (small enough to control) and he said they needed a proper big name director for the first movie to get the series back on track in the creditability stakes.

Falthyron · 20-01-2016 8:00pm

Star Wars Episode VIII delayed until Christmas 2017.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-episode-8-delayed/1100-6433994/

A re-write of the script is currently being undertaken by Rian Johnson.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2016/01/20/star-wars-rumor-episode-8-shooting-delayed-for-a-script-rewrite

Don't know what to make of that. Could be good to ensure an excellent script is written, but now we have to wait almost two years to see it.

Falthyron · 20-01-2016 8:01pm

Star Wars Episode VIII delayed until Christmas 2017.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-episode-8-delayed/1100-6433994/

A re-write of the script is currently being undertaken by Rian Johnson.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2016/01/20/star-wars-rumor-episode-8-shooting-delayed-for-a-script-rewrite

Don't know what to make of that. Could be good to ensure an excellent script is written, but now we have to wait almost two years to see it.

david75 · 20-01-2016 11:39pm

Two years.

Two f*ckin years.

Creatively all you will end up doing on a project over two years is wind yourself up into impossible undoable knots.

But fine. He has two years.
But cut to production and filming. Then you'll see more and more rewrites.

'The first idea you have is usually the best one'

He should just follow that one.

Mitch Connor · 21-01-2016 10:24am

Falthyron wrote: »

Star Wars Episode VIII delayed until Christmas 2017.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-wars-episode-8-delayed/1100-6433994/

A re-write of the script is currently being undertaken by Rian Johnson.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2016/01/20/star-wars-rumor-episode-8-shooting-delayed-for-a-script-rewrite

Don't know what to make of that. Could be good to ensure an excellent script is written, but now we have to wait almost two years to see it.

NOt overly bothered myself - December 2017 seems like the right amount of wait time for such a big movie. Would actually like a big star wars movie to become a christmas tradition.

Glad they are taking their time and not rushing to meet an arbitrary deadline i they feel there are aspects that could be improved upon.

I wonder if they will subsequently push out Episode 9 as a result of this too.

We'll have Rogue One to tide us over in the mean time.

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