Bdgp

Hurling Hereford · 10-10-2017 9:01pm

Hurling Hereford wrote: »

As your reference figure is 33 you have to genotype 20 animals each year. Therefor once you have about 22 r 23 cows calvin down each year you'll have enough animals to cover the genotyping element of the BDgP

Sorry should read once you have 22/23 cows in calf, you'll be in business.

Future Farmer · 11-10-2017 9:43am

There is not a whole lot wrong with this bull, just farmers failing to understand BDGP general usage criteria no?

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/limousine-bull-28-months/16751824

Limousin Bull, good breeding Achile (CD 4.2% 99%), Hawk (CD 4.3% 99% rel, all round bull) & Gamin (CD 3.3% 99%), easy calving breeding.

Like he isn't setting the world alight but .... €1550

patsy_mccabe · 11-10-2017 10:04am

Future Farmer wrote: »

There is not a whole lot wrong with this bull, just farmers failing to understand BDGP general usage criteria no?

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/limousine-bull-28-months/16751824

Limousin Bull, good breeding Achile (CD 4.2% 99%), Hawk (CD 4.3% 99% rel, all round bull) & Gamin (CD 3.3% 99%), easy calving breeding.

Like he isn't setting the world alight but .... €1550

He does qualify for the BDGP, on terminal anyway. Nothing wrong with his heifers if the dams had milk, say first cross dairy. i honestly think he's cheap at €1550.

Future Farmer · 11-10-2017 10:15am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He does qualify for the BDGP, on terminal anyway. Nothing wrong with his heifers if the dams had milk, say first cross dairy. i honestly think he's cheap at €1550.

Plus on a high RI cow you're still grand to get replacements for the BDGP off of him....

He is good value for sure!

oneten · 11-10-2017 7:12pm

He does qualify for the BDGP, on terminal anyway. Nothing wrong with his heifers if the dams had milk, say first cross dairy. i honestly think he's cheap at €1550.

Born may 15
Only 4 calves registered by aug 17, yet he's keeping heifers ?

High bike · 11-10-2017 7:30pm

oneten wrote: »

He does qualify for the BDGP, on terminal anyway. Nothing wrong with his heifers if the dams had milk, say first cross dairy. i honestly think he's cheap at €1550.

Born may 15
Only 4 calves registered by aug 17, yet he's keeping heifers ?

if it sounds too good to be true it probably is,could be a fertility problem if that's the case????

Limestone Cowboy · 11-10-2017 7:56pm

Future Farmer wrote: »

There is not a whole lot wrong with this bull, just farmers failing to understand BDGP general usage criteria no?

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/limousine-bull-28-months/16751824

Limousin Bull, good breeding Achile (CD 4.2% 99%), Hawk (CD 4.3% 99% rel, all round bull) & Gamin (CD 3.3% 99%), easy calving breeding.

Like he isn't setting the world alight but .... €1550

No length, shape, bone or anything appealing really. He might not seem as cheap the day your selling his offspring.

White Clover · 11-10-2017 11:02pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

No length, shape, bone or anything appealing really. He might not seem as cheap the day your selling his offspring.

Couldn't agree more. Buying from figures and stars is a bit simplistic in my view.

Bellview · 12-10-2017 4:24pm

White Clover wrote:

Couldn't agree more. Buying from figures and stars is a bit simplistic in my view.

Agree .. stars are as wrong as they are right...I just ignore them . But heifers i have now are off a low star bull so may suffer but they have milk so over half my herd will be off him.. if I miss final 50 percent rule .. I will jump that fence when I come to it ..buy a few yokes with stars and isolate them on an out farm so avoid Ibr etc

Limestone Cowboy · 12-10-2017 6:18pm

White Clover wrote: »

Couldn't agree more. Buying from figures and stars is a bit simplistic in my view.

Buying solely from figures is definitely simplistic anyway. If an animal doesn't look the part than the stars are a bit irrelevant.

Grueller · 12-10-2017 7:07pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Buying solely from figures is definitely simplistic anyway. If an animal doesn't look the part than the stars are a bit irrelevant.

I agree 100%. But, there are plenty bulls out there that look the part and tick the BDGP box.

Future Farmer · 13-10-2017 9:21am

The figures are the figures, he has a easy calving pedigree and is General Use BDGP applicable.

The pictures are poorly taken of a bellyish bull. But that said I have seen bulls that look poor breeding really well and others that look super breeding like crap.

His Linears with ok reliability place him in the middle for muscle, function and docilty and he is in the bottom 30% for skeletal, not particularly dissimilar to FTY....

That said I have no intention of even making a phone call.

This fella looks like a screw and he is asking €2,100

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/bull/16292728

Edit: Not meaning to sound like a grumpy old fart of a keyboard warrior by the way, happy Friday

Grueller · 17-11-2017 11:53pm

When should payment for this scheme land?

tanko · 18-11-2017 12:08am

Grueller wrote: »

When should payment for this scheme land?

Was Dec 15th last year.

sonnybill · 18-11-2017 7:46pm

Bdgp II tags coming out this week to be back by December 07th, tight window ... Will suit 90% of people in sheds etc.. Disaster as ones I've to do for the neighbour are dosed, bulleted and pour on just done and nicely settled on commonage .. Fecker to have to bring them down again to tag 3 animals

tanko · 18-11-2017 8:41pm

Is that for the BDGP 2?

Oh, i see it is.

sonnybill · 18-11-2017 9:43pm

tanko wrote: »

Is that for the BDGP 2?

Oh, i see it is.

It is indeed, I'm in the first one and find it great as all done n dusted in summer early when dosing calves etc and update few bits on icbf.

I put this mans herd into it as I herd them but ball ache bringing those ones in now again

Never wrestle with pigs · 22-11-2017 12:21am

Got my tags yesterday. Good timeing as I was doing the cows for rota virus and boules and clipping today. Handy job but you wouldn't want to drop the sample pot. It's tiny and would be like a needle in a hay stack if dropped.

When would I expect payment? I'm in trench two.

Grueller · 13-12-2017 12:18am

13th December tomorrow. This landed for some last year on 15 December. I had an issue last year and didn't get it til March. Has there been any announcement from the dept?

High bike · 13-12-2017 8:19pm

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whelan2 · 13-12-2017 8:26pm

High bike wrote: »

Showing in amounts due today��

Everyone goes to check now

tanko · 13-12-2017 9:11pm

Mine is there too.

Grueller · 14-12-2017 12:08am

No sign for me.

KatyMac · 14-12-2017 9:50am

Grueller wrote: »

No sign for me.

Nor me

whelan2 · 14-12-2017 10:10am

KatyMac wrote: »

Nor me

Have all animals needed been genotyped, is everything being shown as done on icbf screen?

KatyMac · 14-12-2017 10:20am

Everything is done:)

annubis · 14-12-2017 11:17am

me neither :mad:

croot · 14-12-2017 11:59am

Its in amount due for me as well and then if you go to amount owed they have a lump taken back. It just seems kind of silly doing it that way.

It reminds me of primary school when the teacher used to say if I give you 10 apples and take two back how many apples have you now?

sonnybill · 14-12-2017 12:31pm

No sign of mine! I got it on time other years, all tasks done

sonnybill · 14-12-2017 12:53pm

sonnybill wrote: »

No sign of mine! I got it on time other years, all tasks done

Rang them there.. All showing on icbf as 100% complete .. Except 2 bottom columns not included but hold payment are "calf size " and "vigour" ... Poor site that it telling you you are 100% complete and then hold payment .. Took 5 mins to put in a score for 2017 and 2016

KatyMac · 15-12-2017 1:24pm

Woohoo! It's in today!

wiggy123 · 15-12-2017 4:20pm

no sign of it yet... from me, all is compleete

Grueller · 15-12-2017 6:50pm

Mine is in.

sonnybill · 15-12-2017 11:13pm

wiggy123 wrote: »

no sign of it yet... from me, all is compleete

Tip off, mine was saying 100% complete on icbf as it appears on iPhone . They now telling me not paid as calf size and calf vigour not appearing and I need to update these on laptop not iPhone .

Thought I gave that info on Agfood when registering calves

tanko · 15-12-2017 11:36pm

If you switch to desktop version you can do it all on your phone.

wiggy123 · 18-12-2017 10:55am

got today.. santa sorted so :-)

Sami23 · 18-12-2017 11:55am

Has anyone in BDGP 2 got paid yet ?

annubis · 18-12-2017 12:18pm

im in BDGP 1 and still havent been paid, anyone else in that boat?
rang last week and they told me everything in order and ICBF site tells me im 100% up to date

Durrus Boy · 18-12-2017 12:38pm

annubis wrote: »

im in BDGP 1 and still havent been paid, anyone else in that boat?
rang last week and they told me everything in order and ICBF site tells me im 100% up to date

There was another payment run today and thankfully after checking agfood I'm on it as I thought I might have a problem, so maybe check again.
One thing I noticed is that there is a new deduction this year called ' survey completion reductions' What the hell is that??!!

josephsoap · 18-12-2017 12:43pm

Still showing in ‘amonts due’ for me

annubis · 18-12-2017 12:54pm

josephsoap wrote: »

Still showing in ‘amonts due’ for me

at least you know its on its way, amounts due empty for me

sonnybill · 21-12-2017 12:35am

annubis wrote: »

im in BDGP 1 and still havent been paid, anyone else in that boat?
rang last week and they told me everything in order and ICBF site tells me im 100% up to date

They told me the same but make sure all white boxes underneath are filled as it were holding payment on me

oneten · 21-12-2017 8:25pm

Durrus Boy wrote: »

There was another payment run today and thankfully after checking agfood I'm on it as I thought I might have a problem, so maybe check again.
One thing I noticed is that there is a new deduction this year called ' survey completion reductions' What the hell is that??!!

I had the same thing,, I sold a half twin under five months old

whelan2 · 25-01-2018 9:00pm

Many signing up to the whpr?

jfh · 25-01-2018 9:35pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Many signing up to the whpr?

Is this for pedigree breeders?

whelan2 · 25-01-2018 10:13pm

jfh wrote: »

Is this for pedigree breeders?

Might be. My dad got a letter weeks ago but only mentioned it this evening

sea12 · 25-01-2018 10:16pm

What's that stand for Whelan

charolais0153 · 25-01-2018 10:25pm

sea12 wrote: »

What's that stand for Whelan

Whole herd performance recording

whelan2 · 25-01-2018 10:25pm

sea12 wrote: »

What's that stand for Whelan

Whole herd performance recording

Bellview · 26-01-2018 12:06am

whelan2 wrote:

Many signing up to the whpr?

Not bothering ss worth nothing. Sure a few limo lads were kicked out and are back in again...so proves icbf more interested in cash than providing any value

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