Boards.ie PW Draft 2016 discussion thread!

LeeJM

WOOOO im 20th ah well I'll still be left with numerous options for my storylines

Necro

Pick up and PM sent. Glad to have got X-Pac. Ended up being crucial to my plans so was sweating a bit this round on getting him!!!

LeeJM

Great pick. I was hoping he would slip to me in the next round but when i saw I got 20th I knew there was no chance Id get him. Very versatile pick.

Necro

LeeJM wrote: »

Great pick. I was hoping he would slip to me in the next round but when i saw I got 20th I knew there was no chance Id get him. Very versatile pick.

I took a chance in leaving him to get T&A in last round, but delighted I ended up with both. One piece of the puzzle left and that's my main matches set....

LeeJM

Anybody interested in Dr Death let me know. Have plans for Gordy so Doc is at a loose end.

beakerjoe

LeeJM wrote: »

Anybody interested in Dr Death let me know. Have plans for Gordy so Doc is at a loose end.

If this was reversed (gordy not williams) I might be interested

Mr.Nice Guy

Had some issues logging in the last few days but it's working for me now, thankfully. Thanks to DM_7 for making my pick for me.

Some great picks the last while. A lot of names crossed off my wishlist.

ShagNastii

Lord TSC: Dean Ambrose & Solomon Crowe, Umaga, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rey Mysterio, The Great Muta, Jeff Jarrett, Lucha Dragons, Asuka

Like everyone, completely chewing at the bit to see Austin and Ambrose cross paths in some way or another. Third round Austin-Fifth round Muta really really shows how the restrictive stips made for some juicy selections late on (which is great)

Mr.Nice Guy: Finn Balor, Nick Bockwinkel & Ray Stevens, Edge , Stan Hansen, Ted Dibiase & IRS, Vader, Ryback & Curtis Axel, James Storm

Balor is white hot property this year. Be really interesting to see how you play him. He is very like Edge in terms of gimmick changeup. Edge has had a few tweaks over the years. Will they feud? Won't they feud? Will it be Rock N Rolla VS Rated R Edge or Gazoo Edge VS The Demon? You are always a must watch in the draft. Interested to see where Money INC fit in (they are one of my fav teams ever)

Bounty Hunter: Brock Lesnar, Killer Kowalski & Gorilla Monsoon, Daniel Bryan, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Chris Benoit (Trade), Ken Shamrock & Steve Blackman, American Alpha

I'm guessing we will be getting the wonderful prospect of Brock/Bryan. Brainbusters are a tag team that make for great writing/reading. Looks like your Tag Team division could be front runner for the best of the draft. Fingers crossed American Alpha are central to it all

SlickRic: Samoa Joe, Misawa, HHH, Bam Bam Bigelow, the Road Warriors, Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards, Bruiser Brody, Magnum TA

I'd easily argue HHH has never been written badly in any year of the draft. A major character that can be played in many many ways. Could we get an American's greatest VS Japan's greatest? How does Joe fit within your feuds-wise. It is tough writing the actually matches but I could see Road Warriors VS The Wolves as a possible whopper.

A Brad Maddox Guy: Kazuchika Okada, Brian Pillman, Batista, RVD, Kota Ibushi & Kenny Omega, The Miz, Damien Sandow & Titus O'Neil

As I said above about HHH, Pillman is a standout year in year out every year. Be interesting seeing him in the mix with Batista and Okada. We better be getting douche-tista. Could see him and Pillman clashing with great results. The always underrated RVD is a great pick. A dream to have once it gets to writing PPV matches.

LeeJM: AJ Styles, Terry Gordy and Steve Williams, CM Punk, Sabu & Tazz, Matt Sydal and Riochet, James Mitchell, Diamond Dallas Page

CM Punk has to be one of the most complex superstars in wrestling history. He will be a pleasure to write. Can't wait to see who is will be mixed with. Could see him butchering Tazz, Sabu, AJ on the mic making for a super fued. James Mitchell pricks my ears. You selected him early so have big plans for him. Who will he be taking the reins of. Can't wait to see.

Beakerjoe: Chris Hero & Cesaro, Ric Flair, Shinuke Nakamura, Young Bucks, Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch, Kerry Von Erich (Texas Tornado), Ethan Carter III

I had Ric Flair two years ago and he was one of my favorites ever to use in the draft. I can not see clearly who he will feud with or what it will be about. Cesaro surely has to be top dog or there abouts. EC3 certainly a fantastic pick so late on. TNA is in the toilet but everything I have seen him do since his jump has been stellar.

Thebostoncrab: Kurt Angle, Rick Rude, Kenta & Kenta Kobashi, Bully Ray, Scott Steiner, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows, Low Ki and THE Brian Kendrick, Bobby Roode

What jumps out at me here is the pure heeldom in your roster. Hell you could be a clan of bad guys. Kurt Angle is fantastic and can be used in so many ways. Kenta/Angle is a real dream match but I'm unsure if Rude will be in your main event. I'd love to see it.

PTH2009: Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn, Big Bossman, Sheamus, Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge, Rhyno, JBL, Neville, Bobby Lashley

Some major heavyweights here. I'd love to see Bossman going face to face with Shemo or Owens or Rhyno. JBL has the potential to be main event. Him and Owens could created some fireworks. Zayn/Owens with each other or against each other will always be money.

Paulie21: John Cena, Lou Thesz, Mick Foley, Mr Kennedy, Honkey Tonk Man & Greg Valentine, Kevin Nash aka Diesel, Sgt. Slaughter

Phenomenal pick getting Cena. Not a complete standout feud if we look at it quite cookie cutter but seeing him fued with Foley, Kennedy or Lou Thesz will be intriguing. Don't want to preempteda anything but since IRL it has been so long come Cena Heel could be a goer (Sure didn't I do it last year). I wonder how HTM will fit in. Fingers crossed he is intercontinental champ.

BrianRegan09: Hiroshi Tanahashi, Mr Perfect, Goldberg, Raven & Perry Saturn, Paul Heyman, Christopher Daniels & Frank Kazarian (Suicide), Apollo Crews

Surprised you were a bit puzzled with where Mr.Perfect fits into your fed. Him and Tanahashi are a super match. Might sound stupid but Goldberg is Goldberg. Give me plenty of spears, jackhammers and general ass whipping and it'll be five star. Heyman is a gigantic pick. Could is he annoying or advocating for? Whomever it is. It'll be top notch.

JP Liz: Roman Reigns, Owen Hart & Davey Boy Smith, Dolph Ziggler, Christian, Tyson Kidd & David Hart Smith, Drew Galloway and Wade Barrett, Nigel McGuinness

Have always been a fan of the brits that have made it in the WWE. If you are going with them some many guys could lead the way in terms of skills and mouthpiece. Barrett, McGuinness or DBS. Be interesting if they get onto Roman Reigns. He is a beast but I've enjoyed his up against it storyline he has been a part of at the minute. Genius getting British Bulldog AND Hart together.

Cheese Wagstaff: Seth Rollins, Sean O' Haire, Ricky Dragon Steamboat, Shelton Benjamin & MVP, Mercury & Morrison, Jay Lethal & Xavier Woods, Mark Henry

Rollin has been a super heel and if it is to happen there is no finer babyface than Ricky Streamboat. Mark Henry is serious value for money and will make for an interesting character provided he bring the Hall of Pain.

Shagnastii: Sting, Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura, Demolition (Ax & Smash), Santino & Carlito

F'n Hulkamania era Mark. Crap roster:D

Stere

omaniac: Kofi Kingston & Big E, Yokozuna, Bret Hart, The Big Show, Iron shiek, Charlotte, Strong-Will Wrestling Group

A cracking roster that is packed with top notch legends. First pick being The New Day you must really have big plans for them. Has a trade been suggested to get the full set? Yoko is one that I always look for in the draft. Being interesting to see does he fight Bret again?

Mrkiscool: The Undertaker, Fabulous Moolah, Jake The Snake Roberts, Sandman, Trish Stratus and Lita, Kyle O'Reilly and Bobby Fish, The Vaudevillains

I mentioned as I PMed early to say you were drafting Taker VS Jake has my mouthwatering. It originally happening in the 90s but with Jake being tragically one of the true dark character in wrestling you will be able to turn it up to 11. Strongest women picks by far. You have a serious plan for Moolah which shall be great. She always seemed like a bit of a badass.

ImnottheHulk: Bray Wyatt, Dusty Rhodes, Booker T (trade), Dan Spivey (chosen as part of a tag team), Goldust & Stardust, Eric Rowan and Luke Harper, The Acsension : Konnor and Viktor, Nikitta Koloff

I'm an enormous Wyatt mark. Loved that you've drafted the family and linking them in with Dan Spivey will add serious spice to any already wholly interesting angle. Was made to draft Goldust. I think all the Rhodes family have so much prestige and believably.

Uncle Walt: Chris Jericho, Randy Savage, HBK, Jerry "The King" Lawler, Dynamite Kid, William Regal & Lance Storm, The Great Sasuke and Jushin Liger

I'd agree with what many have said, your roster is overflowing with HOF level talent. As could any member of your roster could credibly be placed in your main event and kick ass. Haven't a clue who you're gonna match with who but guaranteed something exciting.

DM_7: Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Roddy Piper (trade), Alberto Del Rio, Mark & Jay the Briscoes, Austin Aries, Shane McMahon, Rusev

Some major talent again here. So many guys in your fed seem to link so perfectly. Eddie-Del Rio and Orton has that solid link with Roddy. I draft Vince and it is only now I'm setting up idea I notice how big of a personality he is. Shane is not far behind him. He has had a few amazing matches through the years. I hope he gets put into the mix re: a fight and feud.

Necrominus: Kane, Scott Hall, The Rock, Jeff Hardy, New Age Outlaws, Muhammad Hassan, Test & Albert

Those first four are unreal to nab in the draft. But who are the two that are gonna fight for your world title? One thing is for sure, there is an almighty amount of scope for The Rock tearing somebody a new one in terms of pisstake. Genuinely intrigued to see how you write all your roster.

ShagNastii

Given the feel of my roster I think I'm gonna set it in the late 80s early 90s.

Going to call my fed WWF just for authenticity if everyone thinks that's OK.

paulie21

Was finally able to do that Funk pick ha

LeeJM

Shag Id have been disappointed if it wasnt called the WWF and based in 89/90

LeeJM

paulie21 wrote: »

Was finally able to do that Funk pick ha

Great pick! Funk is one of the best ever and if not for the pre 1970 rule I would have went for him early.

Mr.Nice Guy

ShagNastii wrote: »

Given the feel of my roster I think I'm gonna set it in the late 80s early 90s.

Going to call my fed WWF just for authenticity if everyone thinks that's OK.

As long as no one on here works for the World Wildlife Fund you should be grand. :pac:

Necro

I think I speak for most people when commenting on the recent trade.....

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Mr.Nice Guy

CM Punk has main-evented the past two Draft-winning rosters. Will he make it three in a row? Imo a definite possibility with walt's roster and writing ability.

Lee did get two top talents in his trade though as well.

Exciting stuff!

Uncle Walt

Stereomaniac

Bounty Hunter

Very very happy to have gotten Bobby Heenan on board but that trade is the news of the day! I'd assume its the biggest trade weve had in any draft on boards.

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Necro

Great picks, BH. Was absolutely on tenterhooks there terrified you were going to pick Andre, boy am I glad you didn't! Delighted to get the big man on board, an early draw made him simply too good to pass up!

Bounty Hunter

Yeah Andre is hard to pass up but (I wanted Heenan) it'll be very interesting to see who you pair him up with. Will it be the Rock or someone else I wonder.

Nice to see Funk going to the same person who tried to pick him several rounds earlier too.

I've a feeling there might be some big names who slip till later in the round as many usually opt out of this round as older folk aren't as easy to write if your not familiar with them but their history / backstory can add a lot to a storyline or angle in the draft.

Imnotthehulk

Now .... here is a question .... and it's because I'm a bit unsure. Why does the tag team of Perry Saturn and Dean Malenko not count ... but Bobby Heenan and this guy does .... I would have expected that Heenan and this guy is the very definition of a tag team that only exists because the two were part of the Heenan stable at the time.... The Heenan family was made up of Rick Rude, Mr Perfect (who Heenan also tagged with in 1990), another guy, and this guy.

As for the three months rule.... I would have thought the idea of the three months rule was for two guys to have wrestled together for three months in a row not any three months throughout their careers?

Bounty Hunter

Imnotthehulk wrote: »

Now .... here is a question .... and it's because I'm a bit unsure. Why does the tag team of Perry Saturn and Dean Malenko not count ... but Bobby Heenan and that guy does .... I would have expected that Heenan and that guy is the very definition of a tag team that only exists because the two were part of the Heenan stable at the time.... The Heenan family was made up of Rick Rude, Mr Perfect (who Heenan also tagged with in 1990), and 2 others inc him.

As for the three months rule.... I would have thought the idea of the three months rule was for two guys to have wrestled together for three months in a row not any three months throughout their careers?

Well Heenan when he was teaming with this guy didn't team with anyone else from that stable (atleast not during the I think 6 month period I mentioned) and iirc only had one match that wasn't teaming with this guy during that time.

The stable rule is more so that stables usually have it so that 1 week its 2 guys from that stable then the next week its another 2 guys from that stable so they aren't a set tag team working together for a sustained period of time. However if it is 2 guys from a stable who are tagging together for a sustained period of time they can be picked together as we say this year with the very first pick of Big E and Kofi despite the New Day being a 3 man stable or in previous years with Rollins and Reigns as 2/3rds of the shield.

If people think this one doesn't fit the rule I guess I'd be happy to just take Heenan although I do have a plan in place for this guy.

With regards Perry & Dean, maybe it should be allowed based on other tag teams that have been picked before and I think was just used in the rules as an example of a team in a faction who didn't actually team continually because it was in a faction (tbh the rules could be updated they are just copied and pasted from year to year) and one week it might be Dean and Eddy instead but if you go into detaila and look at it they would probably meet the criteria, but mostly cos they had a run together in WCW before making the jump to WWF where they would only have a few matches in a row together before teaming with Benoit/Eddie instead or as part of a trio

Imnotthehulk

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Well Heenan when he was teaming with this guy didn't team with anyone else from that stable (atleast not during the I think 6 month period I mentioned) and iirc only had one match that wasn't teaming with this guy during that time.

The stable rule is more so that stables usually have it so that 1 week its 2 guys from that stable then the next week its another 2 guys from that stable so they aren't a set tag team working together for a sustained period of time. However if it is 2 guys from a stable who are tagging together for a sustained period of time they can be picked together as we say this year with the very first pick of Big E and Kofi despite the New Day being a 3 man stable or in previous years with Rollins and Reigns as 2/3rds of the shield.

If people think this one doesn't fit the rule I guess I'd be happy to just take Heenan although I do have a plan in place for this guy.

With regards Perry & Dean, maybe it should be allowed based on other tag teams that have been picked before and I think was just used in the rules as an example of a team in a faction who didn't actually team continually because it was in a faction (tbh the rules could be updated they are just copied and pasted from year to year) and one week it might be Dean and Eddy instead but if you go into detaila and look at it they would probably meet the criteria, but mostly cos they had a run together in WCW before making the jump to WWF where they would only have a few matches in a row together before teaming with Benoit/Eddie instead or as part of a trio

I understand what you're saying, but I can't see how it applies to this guy and Heenan. First of all, for the first time period you mention, I don't think you could say Heenan and this guy wrestled for a sustained period of time. They wrestled on house shows, once in December 89, and the three times in February 1990. During this time this guy was in a proper tag team as the other guy.

Three and a half months later, Heenan wrestled with this guy on another House Show circuit, in 6 Two on One matches against the Ultimate over a ten day period.

That said, I ain't gonna go on about it after this post! If it stands it stands and that's fair enough!

Bounty Hunter

Imnotthehulk wrote: »

I understand what you're saying, but I can't see how it applies to Haku and Heenan. First of all, for the first time period you mention, I don't think you could say Heenan and Haku wrestled for a sustained period of time. They wrestled on house shows, once in December 89, and the three times in February 1990. During this time Haku was in a proper tag team as the Colossal Connection with Andre.

Three and a half months later, Heenan wrestled with Haku on another House Show circuit, in 6 Two on One matches against the Ultimate over a ten day period.

That said, I ain't gonna go on about it after this post! If it stands it stands and that's fair enough!

tbh I think you might be right! I've been looking into it more while on the train (once I had the chance) and it would appear that when I noted them down as a potential pick I was only looking from the Heenan perspective (basing everything off sites like cagematch.net can do that to you) and while Heenan was not tagging with anyone else and 10 out of his 11 matches during that period were with that guy. He was in another more established tag team as you mentioned.

I guess I will edit it out and just go with Heenan but dang that sucks I had actually written a good bit for The other guy as I'm trying to get some done now while I have the chance as I'll be travelling for Chinese new year (which starts a few days after I expect to open the Evaluation thread) and not be able to write then.

Who knows maybe someone else will draft him and I'll trade them Blackman who I still don't have a plan for but outside of that scenario I'll need a serious re-write now.

Will also go back and edit out as many references to the now undrafted wrestler I had picked when I get the time in a little bit too

Bounty Hunter

good edit job I'm not the Hulk. Pity I almost drafted that guy

Lord TSC

Torn between two legends. Didn't think either would be available to me at 6th in the pre70s round.miust gotta figure which suits plans more. Leaning towards one, but just when I think I have all of the answers....

Necro

Updated Rosters

Lord TSC: Dean Ambrose & Solomon Crowe, Umaga, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Rey Mysterio, The Great Muta, Jeff Jarrett, Lucha Dragons, Asuka, AJ Lee & Kaitlyn

Mr.Nice Guy: Finn Balor, Nick Bockwinkel & Ray Stevens, Edge , Stan Hansen, Ted Dibiase & IRS, Vader, Ryback & Curtis Axel, James Storm

Bounty Hunter: Brock Lesnar, Killer Kowalski & Gorilla Monsoon, Daniel Bryan, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Chris Benoit (Trade), Ken Shamrock & Steve Blackman, American Alpha, Double Kong, Bobby Heenan

SlickRic: Samoa Joe, Misawa, HHH, Bam Bam Bigelow, the Road Warriors, Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards, Bruiser Brody, Magnum TA

A Brad Maddox Guy: Kazuchika Okada, Brian Pillman, Batista, RVD, Kota Ibushi & Kenny Omega, The Miz, Damien Sandow & Titus O'Neil, Chris Sabin

LeeJM: AJ Styles, Terry Gordy and Steve Williams, Chris Jericho(Trade), Jerry Lawler (Trade), Sabu & Tazz, Matt Sydal and Riochet, James Mitchell, Diamond Dallas Page, Barry Windham

Beakerjoe: Chris Hero & Cesaro, Ric Flair, Shinuke Nakamura, Young Bucks, Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch, Kerry Von Erich (Texas Tornado), Ethan Carter III, Emma and Bayley

Thebostoncrab: Kurt Angle, Rick Rude, Kenta & Kenta Kobashi, Bully Ray, Scott Steiner, Karl Anderson and Doc Gallows, Low Ki and THE Brian Kendrick, Bobby Roode

PTH2009: Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn, Big Bossman, Sheamus, Rocco Rock & Johnny Grunge, Rhyno, JBL, Neville, Bobby Lashley

Paulie21: John Cena, Lou Thesz, Mick Foley, Mr Kennedy, Honkey Tonk Man & Greg Valentine, Kevin Nash aka Diesel, Sgt. Slaughter, The Bella Twins, Terry Funk

BrianRegan09: Hiroshi Tanahashi, Mr Perfect, Goldberg, Raven & Perry Saturn, Paul Heyman, Christopher Daniels & Frank Kazarian (Suicide), Apollo Crews, James Gibson(Jamie Noble)

JP Liz: Roman Reigns, Owen Hart & Davey Boy Smith, Dolph Ziggler, Christian, Tyson Kidd & David Hart Smith, Drew Galloway and Wade Barrett, Nigel McGuinness, Natalya & Beth Phoenix

Cheese Wagstaff: Seth Rollins, Sean O' Haire, Ricky Dragon Steamboat, Shelton Benjamin & MVP, Mercury & Morrison, Jay Lethal & Xavier Woods, Mark Henry, Tatsumi Fujinami

Shagnastii: Sting, Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan, Vince McMahon, Jesse Ventura, Demolition (Ax & Smash), Santino & Carlito, Val Venis

Stereomaniac: Kofi Kingston & Big E, Yokozuna, Bret Hart, The Big Show, Iron shiek, Charlotte, Dash & Dawson, Paige & Sweet Saraya

Mrkiscool: The Undertaker, Fabulous Moolah, Jake The Snake Roberts, Sandman, Trish Stratus and Lita, Kyle O'Reilly and Bobby Fish, The Vaudevillains, Zack Sabre Jr, Harley Race

ImnottheHulk: Bray Wyatt, Dusty Rhodes, Booker T (trade), Dan Spivey (chosen as part of a tag team), Goldust & Stardust, Eric Rowan and Luke Harper, The Ascension : Konnor and Viktor, Nikitta Koloff, Bob Backlund, Enzo Amore & Colin Cassady

Uncle Walt: CM Punk(Trade), Randy Savage, HBK, Dynamite Kid, William Regal & Lance Storm, The Great Sasuke and Jushin Liger, Dean Malenko

DM_7: Randy Orton, Eddie Guerrero, Roddy Piper (trade), Alberto Del Rio, Mark & Jay the Briscoes, Austin Aries, Shane McMahon, Rusev

Necrominus: Kane, Scott Hall(Trade), The Rock, Jeff Hardy, New Age Outlaws: Road Dogg & Billy Gunn, Muhammad Hassan, Test & Albert, X-Pac, Andre The Giant

Lord TSC

Ah, wait. Piper is already gone? I thought he was a pre-70s pick?

Ah well.....onto my next choice :P

Necro

Lord TSC wrote: »

Ah, wait. Piper is already gone? I thought he was a pre-70s pick?

Ah well.....onto my next choice :P

aaaaahhhh picked him first in round 2. Death stip countered pre-1970s rule I believe. He was then traded twice!

Lord TSC

Necrominus wrote: »

aaaaahhhh picked him first in round 2. Death stip countered pre-1970s rule I believe. He was then traded twice!

AH that's right! I forgot that the stip meant he could be picked earlier.

**** it, my second pick was Iron Shiek who I thought was a pre-70s guy too, but noticed he went in Round 5, and Wiki has his debut as 1972. :mad: Right, thats both my plans gone. I'll try and get a pick up soon, but I need to figure out whose available...