Boards.ie PW Draft 2016 discussion thread!

Bounty Hunter

O yeah it's that time of year again, the most magical time of the year, otherwise known as....Draft time biatches.

a quick recap on last years draft.

This was Mr Nice Guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuogQ1InUcg

except MNG is actually a nice non douchie humble fellah

but...

The Streak was broken!

It only took me 8 attempts to finally win the thing. Haven't decided if I will go the distance with a Paul Heyman-esque spiel every single show about it but your reigning defending undisputed draft champion is actually going to be your draft commisioner this year also.

Gotta start by saying, massive props to our Lord (Teamshadowclan) who ran it the past two years. The lad did an awesome job and I must say I am very happy that he will not only be involved as a participant this year but he also said he'd help me out running it as D2D did the last time I ran it back in 2012 iirc. That said deciding on stips etc to mix things up this year will all fall on my head so if you got anyone to blame for anything I'm your guy, while TSC is the awesome guy who will be there when the time difference means I'm not and can post up the next round order etc or make a ruling on an iffy pick.

wait a sec... What the hell is the draft?

well here are last years threads for an example

Discussion Thread
Sign Up Thread
Roster Picks
Evaluation - Shows

Long term posters will know all about the draft, but for those with a bit less experience, each year, we run a competition known as the Pro-Wrestling Draft. The idea is simple enough; 20 people, over the course of around 2 months, draft a dream roster of superstars and divas, managers and announcers, modern and vintage wrestlers, in a bid to create the ultimate collection of characters. After everyone has chosen, each person is invited to explain how they would book their roster, detailing storylines, matches, characters, etc.

This is the discussion thread for the upcoming 2015 draft. There will be three other threads made over the following weeks in which people can participate.

The sign-up thread will be posted on January 2nd at around Midday. This thread will be where everyone signs up to participate. We have 20 slots, and we'll hold places for previous winners and organizers of the competition. Typically we have a few drop outs as well, so don't worry if you miss the first run of slots; we usually need a significant back up list as well

The Roster Picks Thread will open up once the sign-ups are done. We randomly pick the order for each round, some rounds will have special stipulations and bonuses. The rules will be in the roster thread to glance over.

The Evaluation thread will open during Round 10 of the drafting process, and we'll invite everyone to write up their shows. You can write up to 4/5 "TV Shows" and 1 "Pay Per View" show in which to book your roster but you only really have to post a PPV card. We typically give people 2-3 weeks following Round 15 to get their shows up. Different people put different levels of effort in, but I should stress, it doesn't need to be massively time intesive; first and foremost, the draft is about some community fun, and while this will take 3-4 months (We usually try and end round Mania time), it can be real fun and flexible for everyone.

Voting takes place once a deadline passes; we'll post the deadline near the end of the picks. And then we'll post the second deadline once everyone asks for it to be extended :P

Bounty Hunter

btw I already have stips in mind but if you wanna suggest any or any rule changes let me know.

On the topic of rule changes this will be the first year that the IWGP will be considered a world title so 1 pick of mine from the past few years will no longer be available (tag team). For those that know my previous picks there is a 2nd tag team of massive Japanese stars I always seem to get, they may still be eligable with this rule but I can let you know it won't be possible either this year but I don't wanna give up the planned stips etc just yet.

Also we generally don't name potential picks in this thread until they have been picked in the game and it is usually the case that everyone pms the person after them when tey have made a pick in the draft so they know its their go.

beakerjoe

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

btw I already have stips in mind but if you wanna suggest any or any rule changes let me know.

On the topic of rule changes this will be the first year that the IWGP will be considered a world title so 1 pick of mine from the past few years will no longer be available (tag team). For those that know my previous picks there is a 2nd tag team of massive Japanese stars I always seem to get, they may still be eligable with this rule but I can let you know it won't be possible either this year but I don't wanna give up the planned stips etc just yet.

Fully behind the IWGP title being eligible, it makes a huge positive difference to the picks available.

Lord TSC

Ah, it begins.

I know who I want. I know the theme of my shows this year, and the characters who would be amazing it in. Have been plotting it out for the last six months.

So now the nerves kick in as I realise I probably won't get any of the people I want :P

Be nice to participate this year not knowing what's coming though, or what draw I will be getting.

Bounty Hunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

Fully behind the IWGP title being eligible, it makes a huge positive difference to the picks available.

Yeah think I remember a few people suggesting this last year and tbh if the TNA title is considered one then the IWGP world title has to be considered one especially seing as we will probably have many of the same players as previous years and lets face it were a big bunch of smarks :pac: by which I mean we actually appreciate the Japanese wrestlers so it really is too much of a coup otherwise.

Lord TSC wrote: »

I know who I want. I know the theme of my shows this year, and the characters who would be amazing it in. Have been plotting it out for the last six months.

So now the nerves kick in as I realise I probably won't get any of the people I want :P
.

Always love your themed shows, def stand out from the crowd but 6 months dang, for the exact reason you state I could never do that. You almost never actually get who you planned to get but half the fun is making up plans on the fly as you realize who is still available I know I hadn't planned most of my picks last year and yet now I can't see how I could top that roster.

here are last years rules for peoples reference:

Draft Order
The order people make their picks is decided at random, via a completely unbiased List Randomizer website. There will be two rounds in which the drawing order will not be random. These will be made clear at the start of those two rounds.

Tag Teams:

Tag Teams come as a package so for example if you want the Dudleys then you don't have to pick Bubba one round and then D-Von the next. The rules for tag teams are as follows:

- Cannot have a world champion in them ie no DX or Hart Foundation
- Must have tagged together for at least 3 months
- Inter gender tag teams not allowed
- Members of factions, ie Saturn and Malenko, are not deemed valid picks as they are not classed as legit tag teams under the criteria for the game.
- 5 tag teams is the maximum amount of teams for each roster

World Titles:
World titles are considered as the following:
WWE, World Heavyweight Title/WCW, IWGP Heavyweight Championship, TNA and NWA

(Note: For the benefit of the game as a whole and to reflect the realistic loss in prestige of the NWA Title, only holders of the NWA Title up until the WCW World Championship came into use will be regarded as World Champions for the purposes of the game. )

Eligible Promotions:
WWE, TNA, ROH, anything historically going under the NWA banner.

Time Frame:
No professional debuts pre 1970 are eligible. There will be a round for pre 1970 picks. There will also be a celeb round where celebs who have appeared on wrestling TV are elibible for picks.

- To determine wrestler debuts we will use Wikipedia as in previous years. If you feel the Wikipedia entry is incorrect you can PM me or one of the mods to state your case.

- people who would be considerd Celebs more so than wrestlers are only eligable to be drafted in the special celeb round and not in any other round

- Dark matches and try out matches will not be valid cases this year for selecting a wrestler.

- Managers and female wrestlers are eligible if people wish to pick them. Commentators have not been included in recent years.

Trades:
Trades are allowed from rd6 onwards but you are limited it 5 trades each. When a trade occurs it's superstars your trading, not goes in the draft, so you must be able to make the draft pick before they are eligable to
be drafted, i.e all normal rules such as 5 tag team picks limit are still in effect.

Trades may be vetoed by those running the game in order to ensure a fair balance is maintained. However, this is extremely unlikely to occur for the vast majority of trades, and will only be discussed in situations where there is suspicion of other matters influencing the game.

Stip rounds:
We've got a few stipulation rounds lined up. Make sure to read each carefully, and if you're unsure what you're meant to do, ask in the discussion thread and verify your pick with an organiser.

Missed Picks
The draft runs under a 24 Hour rule. In other words, you have 24 hours to make your pick from the moment the person prior to you has made theirs. This will be enforced so as not to slow down the game. If you think you are going to miss your window, PM someone a list of who you'd like and they can make your pick for you. Should you miss your window, your pick will be pushed back to the end of that round.

Note - Rules may be amended during the contest to help run the game smoother if it's felt this is necessary but we will aim to ensure everyone is kept up to date if this has to happen

hopefully some of the posters who have started posting less like TheBostonCrab or Waltersobchek (uncle Walt) return for the draft again this year as they have done so previously.

trying to think of who the former winners are too as an invite will be extended to them too. Off the top of my head we have RebelRockChick, MrNiceGuy x3 and myself but there are a few others.

btw I urge anyone looking in that has never taken part in the draft before to give it a shot (based on your comments elsewhere I'm looking at you stereo), it may look like a lot but its easy to get into and great addictive fun. We always have people saying aww I wish I signed up for this / didn't miss the sign up thread. hense why we are giving people a lot of notice about when it will be.

Mr.Nice Guy

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has spent time recently thinking, 'Ooh I'd love to draft so-and-so'.

With regards former winners if I'm not mistaken this is the total list of winners thus far:

2008 - RebelRockChick
2009 - flahavaj
2010 - Gerard.C
2011 - flahavaj
2012 - Mr.Nice Guy
2013 - Mr.Nice Guy
2014 - Mr.Nice Guy
2015 - Bounty Hunter


Amazing that it's been going nearly ten years now.

With regards ideas, I liked the reverse order concept that was brought in for the first two rounds of the game. I think that was from the most recent draft? I'd like to see it again since it gives those with low draws in the first round some help for the second round.

Bounty Hunter

Cheers for the previous winners although yeah I think me and you will be the only 2 previous winners entering.

Yeah intend on having reverse order first two rounds which at the moment I have planned as both being stip rounds.

beakerjoe

Stip Rounds - The lord can giveth and taketh away very easy with these rounds. Wonder whats instore come Jan 1st

I also agree with MNG on the reverse rounds. Good idea to keep things fair.

thebostoncrab

100% in favour of the IWGP title being brought in to the rule. At this stage there are so many 1 on 1 dream matches that haven't been done yet in the draft that no one will mind only getting one of the main Japanese guys at a time.

I'd also like to bring in extending the big Japanese companies (Ie, NJPW and NOAH) into the mix fully rather than just guys who appeared in ROH or TNA, since there is a wealth of talent that people are familiar with that I'm sure people would love to book.

LeeJM

I REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY wanna be a part of this this year! Like REAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

beakerjoe

thebostoncrab wrote: »

100% in favour of the IWGP title being brought in to the rule. At this stage there are so many 1 on 1 dream matches that haven't been done yet in the draft that no one will mind only getting one of the main Japanese guys at a time.

I'd also like to bring in extending the big Japanese companies (Ie, NJPW and NOAH) into the mix fully rather than just guys who appeared in ROH or TNA, since there is a wealth of talent that people are familiar with that I'm sure people would love to book.

Plus 1,

Bounty Hunter

beakerjoe wrote: »

Plus 1,

Seeing as I've said I'd include the IWGP heavyweight title I'll probably also include new Japan for eligibility and any Japanese wrestlers who didn't ever make a NJPW or NWA etc appearance will be available for selection in one of the stip rounds anyway.

brianregan09

RCW will come back !

beakerjoe

I'd say Brian and RCW will be one to watch after an impressive showing last year

Cheese Wagstaff

I think I'll have to throw my hat in the ring this year!

Bounty Hunter

As there is still over 2 weeks im sure this will drop off the first page but i'll make sure to bump it prior to the sign up thread going up too so people remember it's January 2nd that you can sign up for this.

Glad to see Cheese plans to and RCW hope to return this year and again I urge anyone on the fence to give it a try as there are always people half way through saying they wish they had signed up for it.

connemara man

A statement released today simply states:
Due to circumstances beyond its control the PCW will not be re joining the 2016 draft.

Insiders say:
The owner went and got a new job and won't be able to commit to such an endeavour

paulie21

I'd be interested if there's a slot available. Not 100% sure what's involved but will read over threads to give me an idea

Uncle Walt

I'd love to give this a go again this year especially since the real world got in the way of the Draft for me last year, but my interest in WWE is at an all time low, and knowledge of the current wrestling world is also at an all time low, guess i'll have to see if there's any spots left when the sign up thread opens! :cool:

mrkiscool2

I'm not sure about this to be honest. I really love it, and really want to do it. But exams during roster picks and then college during writing could hamper me. About 75% sure I'll commit but will have to give it a think!

Bounty Hunter

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

I'm not sure about this to be honest. I really love it, and really want to do it. But exams during roster picks and then college during writing could hamper me. About 75% sure I'll commit but will have to give it a think!

I've always found it a good distraction from work etc this year for instance I'm back as a student (learning Chinese) and I know this will be a much needed way to switch off when I'm not in uni or studying.

beakerjoe

What date shall the sign up thread be springing up BH?

Sorry to hear Lord TSC is stepping down, he did a stellar job in recent years, esp last year when he was clearly snowed under with other stuff.

Stereomaniac

January 2nd?

Bounty Hunter

yep Stero spotted it in the OP but better to say again here where it can more easily be spotted:

Sign up thread will go up Jan 2nd probably around lunch time. I'll probably have the thread up but locked prior to that so everyone can see it in advance

with regards TSC

Gotta start by saying, massive props to our Lord (Teamshadowclan) who ran it the past two years. The lad did an awesome job and I must say I am very happy that he will not only be involved as a participant this year but he also said he'd help me out running it as D2D did the last time I ran it back in 2012 iirc. That said deciding on stips etc to mix things up this year will all fall on my head so if you got anyone to blame for anything I'm your guy, while TSC is the awesome guy who will be there when the time difference means I'm not and can post up the next round order etc or make a ruling on an iffy pick.

planning on getting involved this time Maniac?

Moneymaker

Hopefully this is the year Oldschool Championship Wrestling shows its full potential...

Stereomaniac

If there's still room by the time I get home from work that evening I'll sign up. I'll wait & see.

JP Liz V1

TBC I hope I can participate again have a few things in January which may cause some delays

Stereomaniac

Maybe a thread with each roster listed that gets edited with each pick would be a good idea?

Bounty Hunter

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Maybe a thread with each roster listed that gets edited with each pick would be a good idea?

That's usually edited into the op of the picks thread by myself.

A few people tend to update the list and post it in this discussion thread which I then copy and paste into said op. Very handy when checking if your planned pick is still available.

A Brad Maddox Guy

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

That's usually edited into the op of the picks thread by myself.

A few people tend to update the list and post it in this discussion thread which I then copy and paste into said op. Very handy when checking if your planned pick is still available.

I don't think I ever use CTRL + F as much as I do during the Draft

Bounty Hunter

I usually have a list of potential picks written up so will delete them from my list as I go before making my pick. Hasn't stopped me making mistakes and trying to pick someone who has already gone before

Lord TSC

The worst is when you want (for example) Val Venus, and search for him and see he's free, only to find out after you've picked him that "El Steele" was picked

Anyway, I've got a list of 25 names I want. Please be kind, Gods of the Random Draws.

LeeJM

I already have a main title and tag title storyline worked out and a list of about 20 names I think would be gettable. Hopefully I can get my name in early to participate

thebostoncrab

I have three themed rosters (Dunno if I'm going to do an all women's roster again, want to keep things fresh rather than repeat the past) that Id like to do, all depends on first pick to decide the whole thing.

Bounty Hunter

tbh I don't think any regular should have an issue, we usually only have about 2 people on the backup list and considering the 2nd is a Saturday this year, the time when people are usually a bit busier (oddly you'll see weekdays things move faster as maybe people make picks when they should be working ha) or offline so if you know in advance when the thread will go up (which all regulars will), you can make sure to at least pop onto boards on your phone and just leave the simple message "count me in" on the sign up thread

Bounty Hunter

thebostoncrab wrote: »

I have three themed rosters (Dunno if I'm going to do an all women's roster again, want to keep things fresh rather than repeat the past) that Id like to do, all depends on first pick to decide the whole thing.

I always like the idea of themed rosters and loved yours last year (though yeah It may not seem as special if anyone did that this year) but I wouldn't put too much stock in plans like that, for instance atm the first two rounds are planned to be stip rounds. In fact most rounds are planned to be sip rounds but there aren't really any stips that should mess people around too much and a lot of the later ones will just give you more options when drafting.

Mr.Nice Guy

I'm very interested to see how the women do in the game this year as there are more quality women wrestlers available now than ever before.

beakerjoe

Id say a lot of them will go early and with the addition of the IWGP Belt as a world title, this years rosters will be vastly different to last years.

brianregan09

Can't wait to get started

Bounty Hunter

brianregan09 wrote: »

Can't wait to get started

Well almost ready now, all the threads are up just gotta wait till Saturday when I unlock the sign up thread and then when we have 20 people random.org will provide us for the rd1 order for the stickied picks thread.

That said I honestly don't know if i'd prefer a good draw in round 1 or 2 considering the stips and I honestly think as the rd order will be reversed the order you are drawn probably won't make that much of a difference to how good a roster you cna have and star power should be evenly distributed.

oh and yeah why San Jose? cos I was just too lazy to edit that out and try and think of anything else.

beakerjoe

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Well almost ready now, all the threads are up just gotta wait till Saturday when I unlock the sign up thread and then when we have 20 people random.org will provide us for the rd1 order for the stickied picks thread.

That said I honestly don't know if i'd prefer a good draw in round 1 or 2 considering the stips and I honestly think as the rd order will be reversed the order you are drawn probably won't make that much of a difference to how good a roster you cna have and star power should be evenly distributed.

oh and yeah why San Jose? cos I was just too lazy to edit that out and try and think of anything else.

Ill pop on Saturday and sign up and let the chips fall where they may, Ive no initial plan for my roster, just a few random ideas. Ive learnt that over the last 2 years that I can plan all I want but plans can easily go out the window very quickly.

thebostoncrab

Every year I panic that I'll miss the sign ups. It has yet to happen but the fear is always there!

A Brad Maddox Guy

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Every year I panic that I'll miss the sign ups. It has yet to happen but the fear is always there!

January 2nd will see the most consecutive F5's since Brock Lesnar met 3MB

Stereomaniac

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

That's usually edited into the op of the picks thread by myself.

A few people tend to update the list and post it in this discussion thread which I then copy and paste into said op. Very handy when checking if your planned pick is still available.

Yeah that's what I was wondering about, an easier way to know who's been picked.

Bounty Hunter

Stereomaniac wrote: »

Yeah that's what I was wondering about, an easier way to know who's been picked.

if you check the op of previous years picks threads (last years is in the OP of this thread) you will see everyones entire rosters from previous years as an example.

Really is a group effort though if anyone adds the recent picks to the picked wrestlers list and posts it in here as said I will copy and paste it into the other threads OP once I see it.

Mr.Nice Guy

I'm really excited for this. Can't wait to see how the rosters shape up.

Bounty Hunter

Glad to welcome slickric back to the draft, been a few years I think but he used to have quality rosters with iirc an old school feel to em generally

a BMG is also back and a draft newbie in Lee starts off the pack.

14 places remain... Make that 13 as beyond chaos wrestling returns

And 12 as crabman makes the cut.

Now 11 as Mr Moneymaker joins the group

Lord TSC

Super excited now. Not running it has actually made me super enthusiastic about participating

LeeJM

Today I am pleased to announce the arrival of





ALL EUROPE PRO WRESTLING


AEPW strives to deliver real Pro Wrestling to all the fans across Europe and we will endeavor to bring to you, our fans the greatest roster ever assembled in PW Boards fantasy draft history.

Who will be the inaugural WWGC Tag Team Champions?
Who will be the inaugural AEPW European Champion?
And finally who will be crowned the first WWGC Champion?

Be warned PWBoards, this Easter there will be a Rising! 2016 will become known as the year of the AEPW Easter Rising

Signed,
AEPW Owner LeeJM


*WWGC stands for World Wrestling Grand Champion, and is my version of IWGP

Bounty Hunter

People usually involved yet to sign up include:

Uncle Walt, JP Liz, Shagnasti, Campo, RAF32 (is he now Alfred Bordain or something similar), Spongey, Lithuim93_, D2D, DM Ice, BrianRegan, Mrkiscool, Jester

actually won't mention them all but it'll be interesting to see if there are any other new entries like LeeJM above. Stereomaniac suggested he would give it a shot if he can. Paulie21 and Cheesewagstaff also said something similar in this thread already too. Unfortunately Con Man sas he won't be back.

Cheese Wagstaff

Is it here we officially sign up?