Gameweek 15 Match Day Thread

FutureGuy

stephenl15 wrote: »

29 points captain played. I genuinely don't remember feeling this bad about fantasy football. All my good work over the past weeks has just been undone simply by benching Mahrez and captaining Mané, literally can't get it off my mind. I had my reasons but it just backfired outrageously spectacularly. Literally all I had to do was play Mahrez and it would've been a decent week. I'm an absolute addict letting it get to me this much.

FWIW.

I totally understand captaining Mane. I brought him in myself as my transfer. Villa have conceded most chances over the last 4-5 games AND most of them were where Mane plays. I also went to put a tenner on him to score two or more but missed the 3pm.

I totally understand benching Mahrez. After the above transfer, I had a straight swap between him and De Bruyne for first sub. Felt Stoke would beat City and would keep it tight so started Mahrez. So that was a close call.

That's FPL. I benched Mahrez earlier in the year when he scored 15-16 points.

2nd Row Donkey

59 with Barkley left to go

I only seem to do well when everyone else has had a below average week. Don't know why that is when I have a very much template team.

Boskowski

67 with Coutinho (Mane as sub) still to come. Going pretty good lately. I'm on top or near in my league since three weeks ago with an average of 56 until then. Since then I averaged just under 70. Ighalo as captain was a decent choice, he could have had three goals easily.

AdMMM

50 points with Mignolet, Lukaku and Barkley to come. Another green arrow on the way!

stephenl15

FutureGuy wrote: »

FWIW.

I totally understand captaining Mane. I brought him in myself as my transfer. Villa have conceded most chances over the last 4-5 games AND most of them were where Mane plays. I also went to put a tenner on him to score two or more but missed the 3pm.

I totally understand benching Mahrez. After the above transfer, I had a straight swap between him and De Bruyne for first sub. Felt Stoke would beat City and would keep it tight so started Mahrez. So that was a close call.

That's FPL. I benched Mahrez earlier in the year when he scored 15-16 points.

FHFC wrote: »

It could be worse.

Trust me.

For example. Among all the 2 pointers you could have captained the only 1 pointer to completely rub it in.

Thanks guys. you're a decent bunch :P

Swiper the fox

IsMiseMyself wrote: »

Guess that means it's 25 games since Hazard scored... :pac:

The classy thing would be to say nothing, we've got long memories;)

stephenl15 wrote: »

29 points captain played. I genuinely don't remember feeling this bad about fantasy football. All my good work over the past weeks has just been undone simply by benching Mahrez and captaining Mané, literally can't get it off my mind. I had my reasons but it just backfired outrageously spectacularly. Literally all I had to do was play Mahrez and it would've been a decent week. I'm an absolute addict letting it get to me this much.

This game is a killer, benching Mahrez was understandable no matter what anybody says, I did it for his previous big haul and I stand by my decision, Mane had a brilliant fixture and despite the inevitable 'never again' talk and the guffaws that will follow his every mention he's an explosive player who always looks like scoring, even yesterday it seems he was involved in quite a lot and missed a sitter, it happens to them all. Last season he took dogs abuse on here but had everyone eating out of his hand towards the end of the season.

KizzyMonster

53 with Howard, Barkley and Lukaku (c) still to play.
I think I'm doing well this week :)
Best thing is I was sneaky and left Yaya Toure on the pitch and Mahrez first on the bench.
So, although I dropped a few places in the tables yesterday, on Monday I'm going to shoot upwards!!!

I really hope Countinho comes on today... My biggest rival also has Mahrez first sub but with Coutinho on the pitch

Ziegler1988

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I understand the 100%+ theory for Lukaku, Ozil, Vardy.
But on the other hand having two or preferably three of them overrides the 100%.
i.e., They may each be losers on an individual basis for non-captainers, but if all three score well then you likely beat a notable percentage of those people who beat you on just one or two of those players.
So once more than one player goes above 100% in a gw then the maths of it changes.

With the three players this GW it's not that much over 100% so we're talking about say a player you don't own like Deulofeu doing well. It's only when a player owned by 90% of the top 10k and captained by over 50% that you are actually punished by their points. I won't be cheering against Lukaku personally and anything he does with Barkley involvement certainly helps me

Lemlin

KizzyMonster wrote: »

53 with Howard, Barkley and Lukaku (c) still to play.
I think I'm doing well this week :)
Best thing is I was sneaky and left Yaya Toure on the pitch and Mahrez first on the bench.
So, although I dropped a few places in the tables yesterday, on Monday I'm going to shoot upwards!!!

I really hope Countinho comes on today... My biggest rival also has Mahrez first sub but with Coutinho on the pitch

Coutinho won't play. He hasn't even travelled.

ItsChecoTime

I've had Mahrez since the start (one of my few good calls this season) but I've benched him twice, his returns those weeks were 15 and 21. Wasn't a huge fan in seeing the 'no sympathy for Mahrez benchers' posts here, for me it was a 50/50 decision between him and Ayew, I thought the Swans were going to be pushing hard for a win for Monk at home and didn't think they'd be so poor, with Mahrez off penalties with Vardy's run I sided with Ayew.

Anyway 20 (-4) with 3 to play, down about 350k to 617k, here's hoping this will be the lowpoint this year!

FHFC

FutureGuy wrote: »

FWIW.

I totally understand captaining Mane. I brought him in myself as my transfer. Villa have conceded most chances over the last 4-5 games AND most of them were where Mane plays. I also went to put a tenner on him to score two or more but missed the 3pm.

I totally understand benching Mahrez. After the above transfer, I had a straight swap between him and De Bruyne for first sub. Felt Stoke would beat City and would keep it tight so started Mahrez. So that was a close call.

That's FPL. I benched Mahrez earlier in the year when he scored 15-16 points.

Its good to read most of the comments on this thread (compared the "LOL at" after timing stuff you'd get on most of the rest of the internet).

I know it wasn't a ridiculous decision to bemch Mahrez. I know several other experienced posters who considered it. My weakness was Sterling who has really hurt me since I got him in by his usual flattering to deceive. I felt he'd been unlucky not to score more and feared no City attack cover when KdB was everywhere. (Massive fair play FG for having the foresight and balls to bench him)

I benched Mahrez for Sterling last week and it worked. Pushed my luck this week but felt the likely variance between them was likely to be 5 to 7 points or so.

I also gave serious consideration to playing Mahrez and benching Vardy, i went to post a "which would you bench?" question here but discarded it as i knew what everyone would say.. penalties, record, etc.

Its tough to take the damage its done. In a low scoring week, with most of the rest of my team blanking it basically puts me (and Stephen) 20 points behind what is a low average. I dropped from 292k to 530k and will drop further with only Moreno and Lukaku (not captained) left.

As i mentioned above the fact that I made a late captain switch from Hazard to Kane and it actually cost me a point as Harry was the worst scorer on my car crash of a team is actually the biggest sickner of all. That 1 point stings nearly as much as the 21 on the bench.

Few steps back will be taken. No more football this weekend. (Although I'll probably end up checking the price rise predictions come bed time )

Dempsey

Benching Mahrez was ridiculous. He's one of the most consistent point scorers all season and proven he could get double digits. I can understand the punt on Mane against villa but after the humping by Liverpool and their general poor for several weeks which has everyone dropping their players. It was 2 needless risks taken.

Some people are still waiting for last season to break out it seems to me

Lemlin

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

stephenl15

Lemlin wrote: »

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

Nope. This was going to be my last week with the strong front 8 it's more of a hindrance than anything. Probably would never have had one in the first place if it weren't for the AOA chip :P

FHFC

Lemlin wrote: »

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

Nope.

But we're probably biased.

spock.

Lemlin wrote:

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

Yes definitely

ItsChecoTime

Lemlin wrote: »

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

At the moment, probably not, but come the busy Christmas time with all the rotation it could potentially be beneficial.

DarraghF197

Lemlin wrote: »

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

I like having a front eight. For this weekend, I had to bench both Coutinho and Aguero, but still had six great attacking options to play with. When so few top dollar players are performing, it's good to have a rotation of smaller players. I can bench Deulofeu when he's playing Man Utd, then Ighalo when he plays City, and rest Ramsey when they play City as I'd already have Özil etc. It's a problem when they've all got good fixtures (like this weekend, except injuries got in the way), but it's a good problem to have!

Iused2likebusts

Lemlin wrote: »

People with a strong front 8. Do you think the points you are gaining are outweighing those you have benched?

I've benefitted from it. However it's complicated to come to a conclusion on it. Even this week the people that benched mahrez may actually have sold him for the player they wanted to play over him this week. I was very close to playing ayew over mahrez it would have been a disaster that I avoided luckily. However if I didn't have a strong front 8 I'm almost certain I'd have sold mahrez before the utd game. The positive way to look at it is that those that benched mahrez still have him and can use him in the future. Chances are without strong front 8 they would be transferring him back in this week. His 1st goal came off his backside and 2nd goal was offside they were punished very harshly imo.

FutureGuy

Dempsey wrote: »

Benching Mahrez was ridiculous. He's one of the most consistent point scorers all season and proven he could get double digits. I can understand the punt on Mane against villa but after the humping by Liverpool and their general poor for several weeks which has everyone dropping their players. It was 2 needless risks taken.

Some people are still waiting for last season to break out it seems to me

Hmm. Quite a few people would have seen your decision to captain Kane vs Tony Pulis' WBA as being ridiculous when there were far better options. However, it wasn't ridiculous and neither was benching Mahrez. It just didn't work out.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I've benefitted from it. However it's complicated to come to a conclusion on it. Even this week the people that benched mahrez may actually have sold him for the player they wanted to play over him this week. I was very close to playing ayew over mahrez it would have been a disaster that I avoided luckily. However if I didn't have a strong front 8 I'm almost certain I'd have sold mahrez before the utd game. The positive way to look at it is that those that benched mahrez still have him and can use him in the future. Chances are without strong front 8 they would be transferring him back in this week. His 1st goal came off his backside and 2nd goal was offside they were punished very harshly imo.

I was never selling Mahrez. If i wasn't keeping the strong front 8 going id have sold sterling either this week ir last week.

Strong front 8 can lead you to keep a dud you'd otherwise sell. Then you can be tempted to play them in a given week rather than having the likes of Mahrez who just default plays every week. A failed experiment for me. The only week i gained significantlywas when i played my AOA. I gained 3 or 4 points from Sterling over Mahrez last week prompting me to keep him another week and this week is the result.

Pick the players you want and have them for 4 or 5 games rather than flipping back and fourth between players is my game and I'll be going back to is asap.

siblers

Finished on 73 with Barkley left, back in the top 1000 in the world. Sickened that Azpa didn't play yesterday, him coming on as a sub would have been beautiful. A sneaky Newcastle 1-0 win today would do quite nice.

siblers

siblers wrote: »

A sneaky Newcastle 1-0 win today would do quite nice.

GLaDOS

Mahrez is the top scorer in the game (though he might have been 2nd highest before yesterdays haul). You don't bench him. Leicester are scoring goals against everyone, nevermind against Swansea who are struggling at the moment.

Ziegler1988

Liverpool XI vs. Newcastle: Mignolet; Clyne, Skrtel, Lovren, Moreno; Lucas, Allen, Milner, Ibe; Firmino, Benteke.
Confirmed #LFC subs v @NUFC: Bogdan, Toure, Henderson, Sturridge, Lallana, Origi, Randall

Newcastle XI vs. Liverpool: Elliot; Janmaat, Mbemba, Coloccini, Dummett; Anita, Colback, Sissoko, Wijnaldum; De Jong, Cisse.

sheroman01

****e, Sturridge on bench Will score when he comes on though, live in hope

ShaneU

No Coutinho

ElTel

We have discussed this before (TV building, injury coverage etc.) and it's basically the same game. One must accept it.
The Fr8 is mostly due to the non-performance/injuries of the premium priced players so instead of the usual 2 or 3pts left on the bench it is likely to be higher. Statistically dropping 1 from 8 is more likely to be wrong EVERY week. We still pick our starting 11 from 15 as usual using the same processes and that's the agony and ecstasy of the game and the reason we play.
The poster who is angry about his captain pick instead of his benched points has the right attitude
We make these decisions every week wrt our GKs (I've been wrong 6 out of 14 and would actually have scored more playing my benched one) and our defence but don't get as frustrated.
I do take Stephen's point re. the new chips and the "lucidity factor" (That's just my general term I coined having read the chips thread and Lucid life's posts) but the form and injuries to the pricey attackers is the main reason for the Fr8. The stress associated with the new chips is best left 'till season's end.
So players keep making moves and management calls and this Mane captainer we leave it there.


(I feel like deleting the above as you all know there's nothing new or insightful in it.)

dahat

ItsChecoTime wrote: »

At the moment, probably not, but come the busy Christmas time with all the rotation it could potentially be beneficial.

Well then maybe you have gone in far too early with the strong 8 strategy? Points lost up to Christmas will likely not be made back.

El Horseboxo

Ah crap. Would have loved to see Coutinho on the bench just to troll those with Mahrez as first sub.