Porn Superstar James Deen Accused Of "Rape" On Twitter Faces Ruin. Is This Fair?

NachoBusiness

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Considering the industry they're all in, it strikes me as more a stupid publicity stunt than anything I should be likely to get too worked up over is all.

Idiotic thing to say. A female porn star making an accusation of rape would be considered career suicide as no production company would want to work with them for fear that they might make a similar accusation about a male co-star while working on one of their films. A publicity stunt is the very last thing an accusation like this would be.

When I first heard these accusations I thought it was just residue from her relationship with him and her attempt at hurting him and perhaps bringing him down, given that he has even appeared in mainstream films (The Canyons) but reading some of the people that have come out to back Stoya up makes me wonder. Especially so in the case of Princess Donna, as she was a director at Kink (where some of these assaults / rapes were said to have occurred).

https://twitter.com/PrincessDonna/status/671508192191361024

James Franco made a docu about them awhile back. The reason I put credence in the fact that she has backed Stoya up is because she is more than au fait with the whole rape fantasy scenario based films, how girls choose their safe words, how they can stop filming at any time (should they choose to) how they get to choose which male talent they will work with and how they even get to come up with the ins and outs of the rape fantasy themselves. On that basis, it is pretty damning that she seems to be suggesting that Deen is guilty of what Stoya and others have accused him of.

Also, Kink have released the following statement:

For the Kink.com community, as well as the larger BDSM community, consent and respect are sacrosanct. Effective immediately, Kink.com will cease all ties with James Deen, both as a performer and a producer.

Our performers deserve not only safe sets, but the ability to work without fear of assault. Rape or sexual assault, with or without a safe-word, off-set or on, should never be accepted as a hazard of adult production. While many of the allegations against Deen are new, the pattern is alarming.

Been dropped/agreed to step down from an Adult Performers group which he sat on the board of also.

In short: No idea if he's is guilty of what's he's been accused of or not but it sure doesn't look good for the guy. One things for sure, he's about to become the Bill Cosby of the porn industry.

Turtwig

LoonyLovegood wrote: »

there's been rumours online for a while that Deen wasn't the nicest human being.

See, this is something that truly perplexes me. None of us here, I assume, know either of the parties involved in this. Yet this thread has many examples of presumption of character. Why do people on the internet even presume to believe any form of rumours about someone famous are true? If evidence comes to light then by all means, but just rumours? Nozz referred to the Shermer incident. That was a serious indictment of this internet age. People form opinions on things far too prematurely. Regardless of how all parties in this are behaviour wise, it doesn't actually mean the allegations made are true or false. Deen or his accuser could mostly be an angel or a scumbag but it doesn't actually mean very much. Certain events either occurred or they didn't.

Presumption of guilt based on perceived character is one of the weirdest things about the human race. Nobody wants it to ever happen to them, yet, just about every single time there's somebody else in the spotlight we make presumptions one way or the other. When people just makes those kind of presumptions I just pray to fck their right.

StewartGriffin

Turtwig wrote: »

See, this is something that truly perplexes me. None of us here, I assume, know either of the parties involved in this. Yet this thread has many examples of presumption of character. Why do people on the internet even presume to believe any form of rumours about someone famous are true? If evidence comes to light then by all means, but just rumours? Nozz referred to the Shermer incident. That was a serious indictment of this internet age. People form opinions on things far too prematurely. Regardless of how all parties in this are behaviour wise, it doesn't actually mean the allegations made are true or false. Deen or his accuser could mostly be an angel or a scumbag but it doesn't actually mean very much. Certain events either occurred or they didn't.

Presumption of guilt based on perceived character is one of the weirdest things about the human race. Nobody wants it to ever happen to them, yet, just about every single time there's somebody else in the spotlight we make presumptions one way or the other. When people just makes those kind of presumptions I just pray to fck their right.

Well put, but the inverse is also true. We can't just assume they're innocent either. Of course the old "innocent until proven guilty adage" tells us to do just that, but people can't be told what to think and nowadays everyone can publish their opinion.

Does this mean all the James Deen movies will now be removed from Xhamster? :eek::eek:

Is it fair?

No.

Of course, it's not.

I don't know anything about this guy or what he's like, but the way I see it is that he's innocent, until the allegations are proven or not, so to go on social media and essentially destroying his character just isn't on.

Could it not also possibly destroy their case? I mean, I know we're not allowed to discuss ongoing criminal cases here.

Boom_Bap

This thread is being closed.

There is so much wrong with what has been posted and there is no real direction in the discussion. There are multiple tangents of discussion now such as
- what constitues rape
- it's social medias fault
- they are porn starts, screw them
- law

This is going nowhere.