Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Village87

mrbango wrote: »

So who will win it?

City clubs should dominate and if the Shamrocks put in this year, some of the attitude from the Kilkenny players with Ballyhale and the Mullens last year was tragic from a club like the Shamrocks

mrbango

Village87 wrote:

City clubs should dominate and if the Shamrocks put in this year, some of the attitude from the Kilkenny players with Ballyhale and the Mullens last year was tragic from a club like the Shamrocks

Boro won't repeat it again. Village to reliant on larks up front. Louglins to reliant on gorta. Don't see any of the city teams winning it. Outside shock I'd pick the rower or Clara. Don't see anyone else doing the business.

robwen

mrbango wrote: »

Ok. They lost to the village by 3 points in what I think was the best game of the championship. They actually bet Vegas in the group stage so how is it any more random than your pick? I expect john power to dominate the club scene this year. Add to that a back bone of Dalton Martins tennyson and rice and Kevin Farrell they will take beating. Manager is not that important , sure didn't balyhale win loads with a cowboy at the helm. Talent on the pitch will be the difference.

P.s I havent seen much of john walsh or mullinavat but from what I've seen he is way over rated on boards. Pacy and good finished but not good enough for intercounty.

I wasn't saying mullinavat will win it but I think there a good outside bet, my reference to Walsh is about club hurling where he is mvat main scoring forward & has racked up big scores for them, senior grade has really levelled off last few years so few clubs will believe with a bit of luck & few things falling there way they'll be in with a chance.
Talking to shocks lads they thought last year was a big chance to win a senior off the back of the momentum the intermediate all Ireland win gave them & since there hasn't been a lot of enthusiasm for the hurling among lads so I wondered if getting a new trainer in had given them a lift. I think your being very optimistic on John Power, but I'd love if u were right, would be great to see tenno, richie, rice, Dalton finally win a senior but looks unlikely to me given age & injuries.

P.S. which ballyhale trainer are u referring to there's been a few who have all won things?

robwen

Village87 wrote: »

City clubs should dominate and if the Shamrocks put in this year, some of the attitude from the Kilkenny players with Ballyhale and the Mullens last year was tragic from a club like the Shamrocks

The Shefflins have there work cut out sorting things out alright but still a lot of talent in ballyhale they'll be there or thereabouts

v3ttel

Village87 wrote: »

I was in Cork last week and in the Park Sunday and for the Walsh Cup, Cork should have scored 3-27-28 easily Clare scored 2-18 and drove roughly 20 wides. Wexford had half a team out and hit loads of wides near the end of normal time and extra time and still scored 1-24 in freezing conditions on a wet pitch in Januray,playing with a sweeper . Kilkenny CANNOT have a back line with Deegan, Holden & O,Shea,they would get ripped apart in the summer on drying ground. Shane Kingston who is probably not renown for his speed ran at O'Shea during the second half of the Cork match, around the 40 and had nearly 15 yards on him by the time he reached the 14, i think Buckley or Walsh got to him. Kilkenny might get away with one of them

I agree with most of that. I would only have O'Shea in the mix for a serious possibility of a start. I think Deegan needs more time, and Joey should be an option in case of injury.

I'd like to see

E. Murphy
P. Murphy
One of C.Delaney, T.Alyward at full back
One of J. Lyng, C. Doheny, R. Bergin

P.Walsh
C. Buckley
J. Cleere

C. Fogarty
L. Ryan

TJ Reid
R. Hogan
W. Walsh

K. Kelly
C. Fennelly
R. Leahy

Plenty of good options on the bench if lads continue to step up: R.Reid, J. Walsh, M. Keoghan, B. Sheehan, J. Donnelly, C.Doheny, R. Bergin, T. Alyward, E.Morrissey, C. O'Shea, J. Maher, R. Lennon

The real question mark is the full back line and if we can get our best 18 or 19 players into the 15 starting spots on a regular basis. If Alyward or Delaney can't make the step up, I think Forgarty is a better option to try at full back rather than Walsh.

droppingball wrote: »

Happy we are trying lads, hope he keeps trying a few more and we shouldn't worry about relegation as it is not the the end of the world anymore.

Hurling-wise, you are probably right but it would be a disaster for anyone living abroad as no 1B matches are broadcast. It'd be a real pain not to be able to keep up with things.

dubcat51

Cant have paddy deegan o shea and conor martin.all to slow to play inter county imo.alot of small skillfull forwards to select from(bolger awlyard kelly sheehan walsh)any 2 who step up alongside colin richie tj and walter gives us a good 6.midfield fogarty and leahy for me.padraif and cillian at wing backs 2 murphys leaves full back centre back and left corner back.3 spots to fill.

Garyp88

Would like to see Murphy, bolger and sheehan get a game together like the sheehan with his pace and then both the Reids and Walsh behind especially to win the Puck outs

brookville

It'd be great if we could sort out the full back line and release walsh out to hb but we still have to fill 3 and 6.tom aylward has being very steady for vegas the last few years while delaney had a good u21 campaign.
Buckley and richie Reid were both very good at club level hb thats why I would of liked to have seen reid hb.
I think leahy could be mf in the summer but I agree that sheehan or John Walsh could florish around hogan and reid they give us pace something we lack.
Firstly I'd like to try see the defence tightening up and delaney or aylward tried soon

Cornerback1

I'd like to see James Maher given a bit more time in mid-field. In there I'd like to see him and Fogarty or Leahy and Fogarty. Need a good blend of one sitting and one pushing on.

In terms of the forwards, no such thing as a half forward line and full forward line. Lads play all other the place and are switched throughout the game. Good aerial options up front in Wally and T.J. Richie will hopefully be back and get on sliotar in the middle third. One thing we need up front is pace.

Cornerback1

I'd like to see James Maher given a bit more time in mid-field. In there I'd like to see him and Fogarty or Leahy and Fogarty. Need a good blend of one sitting and one pushing on.

In terms of the forwards, no such thing as a half forward line and full forward line. Lads play all other the place and are switched throughout the game. Good aerial options up front in Wally and T.J. Richie will hopefully be back and get on sliotar in the middle third. One thing we need up front is pace.

Cornerback1

Cornerback1 wrote: »

I'd like to see James Maher given a bit more time in mid-field. In there I'd like to see him and Fogarty or Leahy and Fogarty. Need a good blend of one sitting and one pushing on.

In terms of the forwards, no such thing as a half forward line and full forward line. Lads play all other the place and are switched throughout the game. Good aerial options up front in Wally and T.J. Richie will hopefully be back and get on sliotar in the middle third. One thing we need up front is pace.

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Village87

http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/280943

Thats Incredible.. Many south Kilkenny players i wonder as the article states Kilkenny

PeterCasey

I would expect a lot of lads from Tullogher, Glenmore, Rower inistioge, Graignamanagh , would go to school in New ross so there should be a few lads involved with Good Council. St kierans, Cbs are not the only schools that lads from Kilkenny are participating in gaa.

barneygumble99

IT Carlow 1-19
Limerick 0-18
Result

babyjesus14

barneygumble99 wrote: »

IT Carlow 1-19
Limerick 0-18
Result

Also good to see DCU (Conor Delaney, Darren Mullen, John Donnelly) beating 3-in-a-row seeking Mary I.

brookville

I see delaney and mullen scoring a point each.delaney was cb and mullen mf,mullen has potential but donnelly was taking off after 20 mins you'd imagine his first start last sunday could contribute to that.Well done to cw they might fancy their chances now

usualstripes

brookville wrote: »

I see delaney and mullen scoring a point each.delaney was cb and mullen mf,mullen has potential but donnelly was taking off after 20 mins you'd imagine his first start last sunday could contribute to that.Well done to cw they might fancy their chances now

Any report on how Delaney and Mullen did. I think Delaney has a good inter county future ahead of him

BORO BILL

usualstripes wrote: »

Any report on how Delaney and Mullen did. I think Delaney has a good inter county future ahead of him

Great win for Carlow and dcu.good too see Kilkenny lads going well. Would love to see Delaney either full or centre back with Kilkenny. Heard John Donnelly was subbed after 20 mins he had been ill the last few days and was a doubt before the game

brookville

usualstripes wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

I see delaney and mullen scoring a point each.delaney was cb and mullen mf,mullen has potential but donnelly was taking off after 20 mins you'd imagine his first start last sunday could contribute to that.Well done to cw they might fancy their chances now

Any report on how Delaney and Mullen did. I think Delaney has a good inter county future ahead of him

No but leahy got 3 points for cw and 4 kk lads starting for dcu which can only be a good things

JJs Left Hand

Great stuff from Carlow when you consider they're doing it with lads from Carlow, Kerry and Laois making up a large portion of the team. That sounds really condescending but it's not meant to be. It wouldn't be the traditional profile of a strong Fitzgibbon team. Great to see and great for these lads to get the chance to showcase their talent.

WhatsGoingOn2

Reports from gaa.ie

http://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/dcu-dethrone-reigning-fitzgibbon-cup-champions-mary/

http://www.gaa.ie/hurling/news/carlow-edge-out-limerick-fitzgibbon-cup-quarter-final/

kilkennyboy

BORO BILL wrote: »

Great win for Carlow and dcu.good too see Kilkenny lads going well. Would love to see Delaney either full or centre back with Kilkenny. Heard John Donnelly was subbed after 20 mins he had been ill the last few days and was a doubt before the game

Darragh brennan last year's intermediate captain corner back

kilkennyboy

BORO BILL wrote: »

Great win for Carlow and dcu.good too see Kilkenny lads going well. Would love to see Delaney either full or centre back with Kilkenny. Heard John Donnelly was subbed after 20 mins he had been ill the last few days and was a doubt before the game

Darragh brennan last year's intermediate captain corner back

robwen

kilkennyboy wrote: »

Darragh brennan last year's intermediate captain corner back

Usually plays corner forward for club

kilkennyboy

robwen wrote: »

Usually plays corner forward for club

U21 last year .pace and great tackler.
One that has been overlooked would have him inside

robwen

kilkennyboy wrote: »

U21 last year .pace and great tackler.
One that has been overlooked would have him inside

He's been on off the shocks team as a forward prob needs a good year for them in the backs to be getting near a Cody call

jeff bingham

Always in the forwards for shocks as that was were they were lacking. Size against him but he is a serious hurler

Village87

robwen wrote: »

He's been on off the shocks team as a forward prob needs a good year for them in the backs to be getting near a Cody call

Anyone showing a bit of form at Fitzgibbon level should be inside i reckon if there carrying 60 lads. Be as good as our corner backs at present

JJs Left Hand

So we're now calling for a player who can't regularly make his club team to be in with the county because he's in a Fitzgibbon Cup semi final?

Village87

Plays well for his club at senior level.
Playing well at Fitzgibbon, his team in the Semi final.
Captain the Kilkenny intermediate team last year
Kilkenny have 60 on the panel and severely lack good backs with pace.

Why not try him