Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

Garyp88

Thought we did well given the pitch and new lads etc, faded a bit in the second half which is understandable. Thought Alan Murphy and wally missed some simple chances but hoping that's more rustiness, Buckleys injury stopped the momentum after 3 unanswered points. My big concern is because the backs lack any pace and movement they are getting either to tight and getting rolled on the turn or backing off and being done by the space. Hope we can learn and build on a decent performance and hopefully some of the cobwebs are blown away

Pigeon Chaser

A hell of a lot of positives to take from that. Buckley's injury is concerning.

Great performance from the team.

John Donnelly has trimmed down a fair bit.

Topcat32

Doltanian wrote: »

Surely its time for Cody to go?

Surely this time of the weekend is porn time for a lad like You?

Not a bad performance at all

blackcard

I thought we didn't track runners very well and were ball watching in the backs giving away goal chances. Surprised Conor Martin was taken off. I think Richie Reid has the potential to nail down a place. Joey Holden gave away a number of unnecessary frees. Overall a decent effort.

danganabu

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Come on lad you can do better

blackcard wrote: »

You are a sad little man

Topcat32 wrote: »

Surely this time of the weekend is porn time for a lad like You?

Have a look at his posting history, I dont even think he is trolling, just bat sh*t crazy!

Cornerback1

We were well in game up until Buckley got hurt. That changed it. Lads hurled well on a big pitch. Poor surface though. A Murphy inconsistent with the frees. Scruff should have hit a few more of them from out the field. His confidence was up. A goal was the difference.

danganabu

If I was a KK man I think the most pleasing thing was Padraic Walsh's point, I know Cody is stubborn but after that reminder there is no way he can leave him full back come championship, would be madness.

Garyp88

What happened to luke scanlon is he off the panel or injured. Also surprised at no bolger unless he's injured done well for clara. Thought conor Martin in and out the game alot time seemed to pass him by.

SteJer

Very disappointing to see us still have no puck out strategy and defenders just pumping high ball down on top of our forwards. I thought Cody might have come up with something new for this year. Different year but unfortunately the same style hurling from us. It wasn't good enough last year and won't be good enough this year. Also terrible to see us still not able to counteract a puck out strategy from the opposition.

Lyng is absolutely not a forward. Midfield or wing back his best positions.

Alan Murphy is sadly not good enough to play at the highest level.

Deegan & Holden wouldn't make it on the top 2 or 3 county teams. So frustrating to watch the basic errors they continue to make in every game they play.

Such a waste playing Padraig Walsh at full back. Nobody else putting their hand up for the number 3 jersey though. The full back line is bad enough as it is. If Walsh wasn't there it would be non existent.

Other than Walter no Kilkenny player is willing to or capable of taking on defenders and running towards goal. We have too many similar players like Blanchfield, Donnelly, Keoghan & Lyng. Big and strong but very little speed and natural goal scoring ability at this level.

No real goal chance this evening. Only for Eoin Murphy Cork would have won by a lot more.

Our work rate & heart will keep us competitive but unfortunately I can't see us winning anything if we keep playing like this.

JJs Left Hand

I actually think we tried to deliver better ball a lot of the time today. Definitely more diagonal play than the straight lines we've been guilty of the last while. I just think we need to take some of the height off it. Same with Murphys puck outs. Just take 5-10 yards off the height so she gets there a fraction quicker and puts the man behind at a bigger disadvantage. That's on the players not the manager in my opinion.

Agreed on Lyng. Murphy deserves chances. He's only 21 and I think he's an intelligent player. Loads of people in here seem to hold him to a higher standard - same with the U21 last year - and want to write him off very quick

brookville

A small thing could of won that match.We had a 15 minute period in the 2nd half where cork won the match.positive performance from the lads but the thing I will say bout lyng and mossy both are hard workers but won't trouble the score board enough.I thought maher tried hard.Our backs were ran a bit all over the place.
Bolger has niggles while scanlon is out for a few weeks with a hand injury.
Buckley going off definitely set us back as he was having a stormer.
Tj rusty was expected but overall we learn from this and move on to next week it's a winnable game at home

mullinr2

How did Blanchfield do when he came on? In all the games that I've seen him play for kk, he has offered very little. Very one dimensional and slow on the ball. We need goal getters in the team. That has been a big issue for us in the last few years. Hopefully Ger Alyward can regain his 2015 form when he comes back. Who else can provide us with goals?

Garyp88

Blanchfield didn't do alot, but to be fair didn't see alot of ball. Didn't get a point I dont think to be honest we had our chances could of had a couple of goals but Murphy missed some easy frees where lehane was deadly and Walsh worked hard won lots of balls pulled into space then either made the wrong choice or blew a straightforward chance

Topcat32

mullinr2 wrote: »

How did Blanchfield do when he came on? In all the games that I've seen him play for kk, he has offered very little. Very one dimensional and slow on the ball. We need goal getters in the team. That has been a big issue for us in the last few years. Hopefully Ger Alyward can regain his 2015 form when he comes back. Who else can provide us with goals?

Blanchfield is just out of 21; let's give him a chance

mullinr2

Topcat32 wrote: »

Blanchfield is just out of 21; let's give him a chance

In all fairness he was the same at U21 level

davidx40

I agree with previous poster Alan Murphy will never be good enough for this level i cant for life of me understand what hes doing in on the panel .....were in serious trouble in full back line with no one bar Paul Murhy really to come back into it....Mossy Keoghan looks like a prospect

SteJer

Topcat32 wrote: »

Blanchfield is just out of 21; let's give him a chance

There are lads younger than Blanchfield with all stars and hurler of the year etc. It's a young mans game now.

Topcat32

SteJer wrote: »

There are lads younger than Blanchfield with all stars and hurler of the year etc. It's a young mans game now.

Lads younger than 22??? List them all then, I dont really care tho, how he is at 25 means much more to our future

brookville

mullinr2 wrote: »

How did Blanchfield do when he came on? In all the games that I've seen him play for kk, he has offered very little. Very one dimensional and slow on the ball. We need goal getters in the team. That has been a big issue for us in the last few years. Hopefully Ger Alyward can regain his 2015 form when he comes back. Who else can provide us with goals?

Lyng had a good chance should of done better..leahy done well he looks to be a good prospect.
That was a winnable match tonight but it's hard to be critical of few of they mew lads starting off.
The one thing I will say is how come we can't produce a goal getter maybe I'm being too critical and walsh and bolger need time

Charlie69

Happy enough with that performance... thought Deegan and O's
Shea were caught badly for pace and Pat Lyng struggled all evening.

We definitely had the chances to win the game but Cork probably just about shaded it overall, lots of positives going forward though.

Wish lads would give young Murphy and Blanchfield a break.. they're only chaps with time on their side and lots of potential.

Kkman00

SteJer wrote: »

There are lads younger than Blanchfield with all stars and hurler of the year etc. It's a young mans game now.

Jesus the lad was only on for less than 20 mins and ball hardly went into his corner. He also got 2 goals during the week for DIT so don't be writing lads off so easily

ceannmara

Happy with the win, but Walsh's point pipped Murphy's saves for moment of the night. You just had to applaud the combination of guts, desire and class he displayed. Plenty of useful fare for both managers to chew on and a fine turn out for January.

SteJer

Kkman00 wrote: »

Jesus the lad was only on for less than 20 mins and ball hardly went into his corner. He also got 2 goals during the week for DIT so don't be writing lads off so easily

On 20 mins today but this is his third year now and he hasn't really turned it on yet. Fitzgibbon level is slightly different to senior inter county hurling!!

Topcat32

SteJer wrote: »

On 20 mins today but this is his third year now and he hasn't really turned it on yet. Fitzgibbon level is slightly different to senior inter county hurling!!

Again he is 22, 20 minutes, have you played to any high legal at all? I think Not, 20 minutes in january is not where is judge him.

Kkman00

SteJer wrote: »

On 20 mins today but this is his third year now and he hasn't really turned it on yet. Fitzgibbon level is slightly different to senior inter county hurling!!

I agree he needs to step up it up but he's still quite young at 22 and we don't exactly have the same conveyer belt coming through you have to be patient with young lads it takes some lads a few years to really settle into teams including the likes of Michael fennellyand TJ Reid. The fitzgibbon is also not a competition to be underestimating it's probably the closest thing to senior level you can compete in

SteJer

Topcat32 wrote: »

Lads younger than 22??? List them all then, I dont really care tho, how he is at 25 means much more to our future

I don't have the time to list them all but the ones that come to mind are Conor Whelan and Mark Coleman from last year. Austin Gleeson and Ronan Maher the year before that. Gleeson also young and senior hurler of the year as was Tony Kelly, both when still playing U21. A few others from recent times are Cathal Mannion, Tadgh de Burca, Shane Dowling, David McInerney, Podge Collins and Colm Galvin.

A lot of hurlers these days are established senior hurlers by the age of 21. Gone are the days of waiting for a lad to hit 25 before reaching his full potential.

SteJer

Kkman00 wrote: »

I agree he needs to step up it up but he's still quite young at 22 and we don't exactly have the same conveyer belt coming through you have to be patient with young lads it takes some lads a few years to really settle into teams including the likes of Michael fennellyand TJ Reid. The fitzgibbon is also not a competition to be underestimating it's probably the closest thing to senior level you can compete in

Yes Fitz is the closest but absolutely nowhere near the same level.

SteJer

Topcat32 wrote: »

Again he is 22, 20 minutes, have you played to any high legal at all? I think Not, 20 minutes in january is not where is judge him.

Sorry I didn't know this forum was only open to ex inter county hurlers to comment on current inter county hurlers.

Topcat32

SteJer wrote: »

I don't have the time to list them all but the ones that come to mind are Conor Whelan and Mark Coleman from last year. Austin Gleeson and Ronan Maher the year before that. Gleeson also young and senior hurler of the year as was Tony Kelly, both when still playing U21. A few others from recent times are Cathal Mannion, Tadgh de Burca, Shane Dowling, David McInerney, Podge Collins and Colm Galvin.

A lot of hurlers these days are established senior hurlers by the age of 21. Gone are the days of waiting for a lad to hit 25 before reaching his full potential.

Shane Dowling?? At 21?? You List Conor Whelan last year was poor at under 21 and senior in 2015, we need to luck at what players will be like in the future, forwards in hurling take longer to mature

Slipperydodger

Eoin Murphy's incredible save from Alan Cadogan of Cork