Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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Hawkeye6 wrote: »

Some amazing posts here over the past few weeks. Some good, some awful and some hilarious. The good, the bad and the ugly. This post could fall into all of those categories. Really interesting discussion for a while on underage hurling which I will return to in the future. The thing that strikes me is there are so many ill informed people posting. If they are Kilkenny GAA fans surely they regularly look at the official Kilkenny GAA website for information and still they ask questions like when is the British Junior Football final between Kilkenny and Warwickshire on. Come on, people must know how to surf and gather official information if they are on here. I would have thought.

Anyway, that is not the point of this post. I wanted to return to my post in the immediate aftermath of the Wexford game where I suggested, in my opinion, the root problem in the 2016 AI final was not in the backs and has not been since. In my opinion, the problem has been in midfield. Hence the loss of Michael Fennelly is really being felt and Michael Rice, Derek Lyng and Cha Fitz before that. I challenge anyone to identify what is the function and requirement of the current Kilkenny midfield setup. Are they attackers, are they defenders, are they both, are thy one of each and what should they be? Most other counties are now using their midfielders like rugby a scrum half and out half, winning breaking ball from the half lines and redistributing it productively. Half lines are no longer trying to catch balls. You will notice that they are spoiling and breaking. Galway and Cork used the tactic to great effect against the Tipperary half back line with Canning and the midfielders mopping up broken possession to feed mobile forwards. Lee Chin is doing something similar for Wexford as is Conor Lehane for Cork. I don’t recall a huge amount of scrimmaging these guys did either, but they certainly got lots of possession.

Do we in Kilkenny have midfielders capable of this role which knits your defensive and attacking units together? Do we have midfielders capable of an alternative game plan which will outwit the current opposition game plan. Over the last number of years, who have been the standout midfielders at club matches? They haven’t really been any. There have been good backs, good forwards and good goalkeepers but midfielders? Clubs have stopped developing midfielders because for a while they became almost redundant blending as a back or a forward. Half forwards were targeted and were winning clean possession. Kilkenny were very good at it. Now the spoiling tactics have stopped the success of that approach. I have watched so many matches lately where one midfielder is at one sideline and the other is at the opposite, with no hope of supporting each other in time and leaving a complete hole down the centre for a defence to be drawn apart and exploited. People are only noticing the last bit, it seems, the full back line. In my day midfielders were the winners of the puckout. That day is long gone, but they still exist on the field and their role needs to be defined. They have to have a purpose, don’t they? A young lad nowadays is either a back or a forward or maybe the odd goalkeeper. Very few lads are being defined as a midfielder in Kilkenny. Yes lads are put there because its tradition, but why???

Even in the U21 match last week how many times were the midfielders seen operating together as a tag team? Many counties have had great individuals, Kilkenny’s success was built on the whole team ethic. In the aftermath of the 2016 AI final, public opinion sent the Kilkenny backs to the slaughter. They wanted the forwards rearranged as well . Read all the posts, put this lad in the forwards, put that lad in the backs. Yet very few have looked at the midfield pairing or how that midfield pairing should work. This is the department that knits it all together.

Have a look at your own club and study the midfielders and the role they are playing and their own interaction. Is it productive or effective? Ask the club mentors who are the standout midfielders in the club, even at underage.

I thought about the Limerick game today ...only reading boards now and I came to the conclusion whoever wins midfield on Saturday evening will win the game.

dastardly00

blackcard wrote: »

Kilkenny have played 7 games in League and Championship this year. A repeat of their form against Clare, Waterford, Dublin, Cork or Wexford in the League or Wexford in the Championship could see Kilkenny struggle on Saturday. KK really needs the likes of Paul Murphy, Conor Fogarty, Walter Walsh, Richie Hogan to rediscover their form.

I'd add TJ Reid to your list of players that need to rediscover their form.

TJ has been solid from placed balls and particularly excellent from penalties, but he has played every minute of all of those 7 matches and has only scored 1-9 from play.

JimTreacy

Is it true that James Maher broke his jaw in training over the weekend.

JimTreacy

dastardly00 wrote: »

I'd add TJ Reid to your list of players that need to rediscover their form.

TJ has been solid from placed balls and particularly excellent from penalties, but he has played every minute of all of those 7 matches and has only scored 1-9 from play.

Our goalie would need to use possession better with the puckouts we need a vast improvement all around hopefully things will come together. The best of luck to all Kilkenny teams in action over the next week.

tbiggertycome

IT WAS SILENCE which greeted Kilkenny’s defeat in their Leinster semi-final at Wexford Park, so says Richie Hogan.


Instead they’ll visit a Kilkenny team desperate to inflict silence upon the rest of us.

............... APOLOGIES double post, see below post for full article and link.

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Gavan Casey

Richie Hogan article from the 42.ie our full-time hurler. Very interesting.

tbiggertycome

IT WAS SILENCE which greeted Kilkenny’s defeat in their Leinster semi-final at Wexford Park, so says Richie Hogan.

The Cats were ultimately outfought and outplayed on a day which, for their neighbours, will go down in folklore, but they needed no further reminder that they were sub-par that day than the thousands of jubilant Wexford supporters who took to the field to be serenaded by Davy Fitzgerald from his pulpit in the stands, or the scoreboard which read 1-20 to 3-11 in favour of the hosts.

Nobody knew that better than Brian Cody.

“He actually genuinely didn’t say anything,” Hogan says, recalling the evening when a plethora of armchair pundits finally sprouted the stones to definitively write Kilkenny off. It was a watershed moment, all right.

“Sometimes that’s worse, but he doesn’t really need to say anything when the players are hugely disappointed. It’s important to be able to let that linger so that it drives you on for the next day. And then we have a three week break, so there’s almost no need to get us going straight away, that minute. We could kind of feel sorry for ourselves for the day and then get up and get on with it afterwards.”

Hogan’s own lack of impact on his side’s defeat was brushed aside by many as merely a symptom that this crop of Cats was down to its last life, void of energy and fight, ready to wander out the back door only never to return.

It’s rarely if ever that simple with Kilkenny, of course. Hogan had been suffering with a back injury in the build-up which prevented him from preparing accordingly, and the four-time All Star readily admits he was blowing hard at crunch time as Kilkenny were sentenced to death by their rivals.

“I was very doubtful before the Wexford game, and I actually felt great going out into the warm-up, and I felt fine in the first half. But I tired quickly. I hadn’t done a huge amount of training. To be honest with you, I was just so relieved and happy to be on the pitch. I missed the first round last year with a broken hand. I missed half the Leinster final as well.

“It’s so devastating because the league matches are great and all, but Championship is what it’s all about. You train since November or whatever, training three or four nights a week and then a couple of nights in the gym, and then you get to the week before the game and you get an innocuous enough injury – it’s a killer. Especially with the way it is now, like. I mean, lose on Saturday and we’re gone, Championship is over. So a back injury for 10 days might as well be a cruciate injury for nine months because you don’t come back ’til next year.”

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Speaking at an event to promote Sure’s ‘Never More Sure’ series, which has been launched in celebration of the company’s second year as Official Statistics Partner of the GAA, Hogan declared with a degree of certainty that he was now fighting fit. A combination of epidurals and steroids – the legal kind, as per his own nervous interjection – have left the seven-time All-Ireland winner feeling “as good as new” ahead of the qualifiers.

It’s just as well. Here sits a man for whom the ability to hurl competitively is quite literally the be-all and end-all. Last Easter, the 28-year-old cleared his desk at Belgrove Jr Boys National School in Clontarf, Dublin, and left teaching in his rear-view indefinitely.

The toils of a 120-kilometer round-trip and an ungodly schedule eventually forced him to prioritise, but where for many this would see a career in Gaelic games reluctantly parked, Hogan is one of the few who has flipped the script.

“Since I stepped away from [teaching] it’s been absolutely brilliant. I like to be able to do hurling every day. So I used to do my gym sessions in the morning, I’d go to DCU at maybe quarter-past six. Then I’d go to work, and maybe do my hurling in the evening, and obviously on a training day travel home. Now I’m able to recover properly, so I don’t have to go to the gym at six o’clock in the morning. I can go to the gym at nine o’clock and take that break in the afternoon, and then do my hurling and do a bit of lower-body, a bit of core work. Look, I’m 28, so I have to look after myself properly, and that’s my highest priority.

It would depress you travelling home and you get out of the car, and you’re just so broken up after it. Now, I just love training; I can’t do the Michael Fennelly thing of, you know, take it easy and get yourself right at a slow pace. I can’t do that. In my own head I’m not able to do that. I drive down from Dublin, but I’d walk from Dublin to be able to train I just love it so much. I can’t do that thing that he does.
“I’m incredibly lucky that I’m very good with money. I worked for seven years, and I have a Masters in Business and Finance. I saved a huge amount of money, and then I do a bit with a recruitment company where we recruit teachers to go to the Middle East. I do a couple of hours a week at that. At the minute I’m going off savings alone, but I’ve seven years’ savings behind me where all my friends are going on holidays and that sort of stuff, buying new cars. I don’t have to worry about a car because I’ve sponsorship like a lot of other hurlers, so that’s one thing off the books. But it is mostly savings, and I’m just very careful with it.”

Somewhat incredibly, he intends to continue in a similar vain until his time in the black and amber elapses. He still lives in Dublin, however; his girlfriend, too, is a teacher, and her gig in Ballymun means Hogan continues to train a long way from Danesfort. And the life of an athlete in No Man’s Land is hardly a picnic.

“It’s great sometimes, but sometimes it can be difficult because you’re completely on your own. It’s alright going to training sessions and you’re around other people, but when you’re training as an individual… I have great sympathy for triathletes or runners or whatever. When you look at them they all try to train in groups of two, three or four, so it’s quite difficult when you’re on your own, especially when every club keeps kicking me off their hurling pitches! You name it, I’ve been kicked off it.”

All of this being said, Hogan doesn’t perceive his own endeavour as a call to action to his fellow players, many of whom might like to see the GAA go down the route of professionalism. Frankly speaking, he’s not overly fussed. His own pursuit is about the small ball and nothing else.

“Do I see it going like that [professional]? I honestly don’t know. I haven’t really thought about it. But for me it’s not about money at all. There’s some people who need money, who like to be able to live that lifestyle, who like to be able to focus on their career. That’s hugely important, and the GPA do a huge amount of work around that, but it’s just not that important to me.

I remember saying it to one of these life coaches that I was speaking to, I said: ‘If I play to the age of 35, and get everything out of myself, I will gladly sweep the streets for the next 50 years’.
“But I’m lucky in the sense that I’m a teacher, I’m fully qualified, so I can go get a job whenever I want. It shouldn’t be that difficult if I ever decide to go back to it.”

It might well prove to be the case that Hogan’s decision to focus solely on hurling couldn’t have arrived at a more crucial juncture for his county. For the first time in four years, Kilkenny are staring down the barrel in late June, and Hogan recalls only too well the slings and arrows of outrageous scheduling which await them in the qualifiers.

Mind you, he’s reveling in the challenge.

“It’s just such a difficult route to go through,” he says. “I know Tipperary went through that route, I think in 2010, but I’m just judging it on 2013 where we had so many games. We had Tipp in the Páirc, we had Waterford and won after extra time. We had Cork, we had two games with Dublin, we had a game with Offaly. It’s just game after game after game. If you talk to any of the lads that played on that team, they just loved the whole experience. We were devastated when we lost to Cork, but if we could have continued it just would have been an unbelievable way to win an All-Ireland.

“There’s just no thinking: you go out and just play the game, and the best man wins. There’s not enough time to analyse other teams, there’s not enough time to prepare, because you don’t even know who you’re playing until a couple of days beforehand. It’s just a great, natural way of playing the game.”

On a day in which he’s promoting Sure, the GAA’s official Statistics Partner, the decorated all-rounder readily admits he ‘loves’ doing his own video analysis on fellow greats, “the likes of Austin Gleeson, Tony Kelly and Séamus Callanan.” A few of them might well cross his path not only in the coming weeks, but with more regularity in the coming years, too.

Then the reigning Hurler of the Year, Hogan was vocal in his dissatisfaction with the hurling championship structure back in 2015, calling for more games after Kilkenny again reached the All-Ireland final after just three outings. Fast forward a couple of years, and it seems he’ll be granted his wish from next season.

“Look what I ****ing started!” he laughs.

I genuinely don’t even know. We want more games – yes we do. The new Championship that’s going to come in, and I think it more than likely will come in, and everyone’s in favour of it. And then in my own head I’m kind of thinking, if you have four group games in Leinster, us going down to Wexford and the joy [after Wexford's win]…will that exist? Or Tipperary beat Cork in Semple Stadium, and it’s just a group game, does it take away a little bit from that?
“I don’t really know. But I think what’s great is that you have the Munster final and the Leinster final. If it was just a group thing and the top team wins it, it probably wouldn’t be a good idea. But I think I like it.

“Teams will have a lot of players who are incredibly talented and don’t get a chance to play and prove themselves because they might be number 16 or 17, so it gives a team the chance to use the whole panel. In Kilkenny we’re very much about the panel. The panel is everything for us. You’re going to need your whole panel if you’re going to play that many games in that short space of time. I think I am in favour of it. I’m not 100% sure.”

His doubts don’t necessarily concern Kilkenny’s position within a new format, but rather the ‘neither a hurling stronghold’ counties, and as to whether they would still play a role in their own provincial championships.

“The qualifier group, I don’t know what it’s even called – is it Leinster 2? What do you do with that? What happens if Kerry win that? Do they go into the Munster Championship and a Munster team goes out? Or if Kerry win, and beat Waterford in the quarter-final, do Waterford go into the group and Kerry go into the Munster Championship? They beat them before, in ’92.

Leinster and Munster are fine, but I would be more in favour of coming up with two groups, and just join all the teams together. Mix Leinster and Munster teams in a group, and then the top Leinster team on either side can play in a Leinster final, the top Munster teams can play in a Munster final, and your top two or three teams on each side go into quarter-finals.”

Of one thing Hogan is certain: the provincial championships must be maintained in some form or another. And he has a sharp response to anyone doubting the gravitas of a Leinster championship over which his own county has reigned superior for almost two decades.

It aggravates me sometimes when you talk about, ‘oh, the Leinster Championship is not worth anything’. You’re going to have about 65,000 people in Croke Park next week, and they’ll tell you what a Leinster Championship is worth.
“I hate that comparison between Leinster and Munster. Our championship is just as important. You often see great Munster Championships and then you see a Leinster team winning the All-Ireland. The Leinster Championship is huge to us. Wexford are back, Dublin are back – let’s say compared to where they were 20 years ago. If we can get Offaly up there again now, and obviously you have Galway in there, it just makes for an unbelievable championship.

“You’re going to have lean years here. Of course you are. But that doesn’t mean you scrap the whole thing.”

That last line could also be applied to the supposed crisis facing Brian Cody’s Kilkenny. On Saturday, they host a youthful Limerick outfit unburdened by the same expectation, and on this occasion Hogan doesn’t need to go back to the early ’90s to search for an example of why such a proposition might be problematic.

“There’s that element of no fear about them,” he says, eyes widened. “I know it’s in Nowlan Park, which is great, but if you break it down they have fantastic players all over the pitch who would make teams on other counties easily, and just ’cause they didn’t get it right last year or the year before…look at Wexford last year and the year before. So just because they didn’t get it right then doesn’t mean that they’re gone. They’re going to be a really huge challenge for us.”

And with that it’s a wrap, but when you’re speaking with a full-time hurler of Richie Hogan’s ilk, you should know better than to hastily hit ‘stop’ on your recording device. For him, there’s no off switch, not least three days before a do-or-die clash in his homeland.

“And they were there or thereabouts against Clare!” he adds rapidly. “Clare play the kind of game where it can look like a bad game, but it’s just a style of play. And Limerick cut them open a few times, and if a couple of those goal chances that they got had gone in, and they got their tails up, they’d be in a Munster final.”

Instead they’ll visit a Kilkenny team desperate to inflict silence upon the rest of us.


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http://www.the42.ie/richie-hogan-3468268-Jun2017/
Richie Hogan article from the 42.ie our full-time hurler. Very interesting.

dastardly00

^^^ absolutely fascinating article. I just logged on to post it as well.

Ceist_Beag

Village87 wrote: »

Are the footballers playing before hand too ?

Highlights of the semi final last weekend where Kilkenny won 2-11 to 1-13. Final is against Warwickshire this Saturday

Village87

Great read by Richie, top class pro. The benefits of a playing for a top county like Kilkenny allows players to do this, as the rewards are there, Cars, Holidays, Promotion money high profile Etc.. But weaker counties are getting weaker as there top players have little access to any of this and there dedication leads to little reward.

usualstripes

Amy news from anyone yet in relation to training, form or injuries?
For the 1st time in many years there are so many variables here.
Are we going to see buckley and padraig out on the half back line?
Are we going to see bolger, donnelly or billy ryan make the team/ panel?
Is leahy ok to start?
Are injuries to padraig and hogan cleared or regressed enough to allow them to play a full part?
How has alyward, walter and bolgers form been since wexford?

Is there a possibility of a few surprises? One of maybe bolger, donnelly, ryan, delaney or joe lyng?

Looking forward to it big time. We have a chance Saturday to wipe the slate clean for everything that has gone already this year and take a big leap forward. Otherwise it's curtains.
Structured the right way and having the attitude hopping we can drive on. A few early scores from aylward, tj, Colin or richie will do us the power of good.

minty81

Johnjo is still on the panel, rumours to state otherwise untrue.

danganabu

JimTreacy wrote: »

Our goalie would need to use possession better with the puckouts we need a vast improvement all around hopefully things will come together. The best of luck to all Kilkenny teams in action over the next week.

The goalkeeper is always the easy target here, if you pardon the pun, the reality is that when the outfield players are either been out fought or out hurled then there is very little the keeper can do, the same accusations have been levied at Darren Gleeson re the Cork game, but the reality is the outfield players were static and Cork were simply hungrier and working harder.

Eoin Murphy is one of the handful of top top class players that KK still have and is possibly the only one of the current team that would 100% have made the four in a row team, Paul Murphy, Ritchie Hogan and TJ Reid would have obvious strong claims but he is the only one that there is no debate or doubt about, he is the best keeper in the country and by quite a distance.

dastardly00

usualstripes wrote: »

Amy news from anyone yet in relation to training, form or injuries?
For the 1st time in many years there are so many variables here.
Are we going to see buckley and padraig out on the half back line?
Are we going to see bolger, donnelly or billy ryan make the team/ panel?
Is leahy ok to start?
Are injuries to padraig and hogan cleared or regressed enough to allow them to play a full part?
How has alyward, walter and bolgers form been since wexford?

Is there a possibility of a few surprises? One of maybe bolger, donnelly, ryan, delaney or joe lyng?

Looking forward to it big time. We have a chance Saturday to wipe the slate clean for everything that has gone already this year and take a big leap forward. Otherwise it's curtains.
Structured the right way and having the attitude hopping we can drive on. A few early scores from aylward, tj, Colin or richie will do us the power of good.

Well based on what Richie said in the article that was published today, he now feels “like a new man” after the epidural he received last week.

tbiggertycome

danganabu wrote: »

The goalkeeper is always the easy target here, if you pardon the pun, the reality is that when the outfield players are either been out fought or out hurled then there is very little the keeper can do, the same accusations have been levied at Darren Gleeson re the Cork game, but the reality is the outfield players were static and Cork were simply hungrier and working harder.

Eoin Murphy is one of the handful of top top class players that KK still have and is possibly the only one of the current team that would 100% have made the four in a row team, Paul Murphy, Ritchie Hogan and TJ Reid would have obvious strong claims but he is the only one that there is no debate or doubt about, he is the best keeper in the country and by quite a distance.

While I agree with you that the keeper is an easy target and Murphy is a phenomenal keeper, the highlighted bit above to me is the key. If the players are just standing their waiting for it, the keeper has little option but to lump it down on the forwards or a short one to an uncovered corner back. However where I would question Murphy is why hasn't he taken the bull by the horns and instructed the half forwards to make runs for him to either create space or to double up on where the puck out will land. This is what Cork are doing and it works perfectly, now I'm sure their management are involved in this highly effective tactic but we all know Cody doesn't do that kind of stuff but doesn't mind if the players figure it out themselves.

There was a great interview on Newstalk I think, with David Herity and Michael Rice. Herity was asked "if Cody doesn't do tactics, what would he call the puckout strategy on the day?" (i think they were talking about the '12 AI replay) Herity replied that it didn't come from Cody that a few of the lads were leaving training one evening with Herity and they and quick chat about it and then they just did it for the replay, worked a treat. As Herity said Codys opinion on short puckouts was were no problem, as long as they were a 120 yards short.

Village87

minty81 wrote: »

Johnjo is still on the panel, rumours to state otherwise untrue.

If Jonjo Farrell is still on the panel he should be demanding his place on the starting team Saturday to make to for what they did to him v Wexford

Village87

JimTreacy wrote: »

Our goalie would need to use possession better with the puckouts we need a vast improvement all around hopefully things will come together. The best of luck to all Kilkenny teams in action over the next week.

Ah here,how can you blame Eoin Murphy as stated in a few previous posts he is top class in every department. Whats his short option puck outs?? give it to Paul Murphy or Conor O Shea, there first touch wouldn't fill you with confidence, could end up back in the net as quick. Padraig Walsh amd Buckley are the only real options for short puck out unless Richie Hogan is Midfield, other backs and midfield are capable of anything

greenspurs

Village87 wrote: »

If Jonjo Farrell is still on the panel he should be demanding his place on the starting team Saturday to make to for what they did to him v Wexford

I dont think it works like that ................... :rolleyes:

Realt Dearg Sec

greenspurs wrote: »

Village87 wrote: »

If Jonjo Farrell is still on the panel he should be demanding his place on the starting team Saturday to make to for what they did to him v Wexford

I dont think it works like that ................... :rolleyes:

I certainly hope it doesn't.

JimTreacy

Village87 wrote: »

Ah here,how can you blame Eoin Murphy as stated in a few previous posts he is top class in every department. Whats his short option puck outs?? give it to Paul Murphy or Conor O Shea, there first touch wouldn't fill you with confidence, could end up back in the net as quick. Padraig Walsh amd Buckley are the only real options for short puck out unless Richie Hogan is Midfield, other backs and midfield are capable of anything

We all know murphy is a good goalie but I was thinking like a man said a couple of posts up you don't seem to have confidence in anybody, to me in all honesty I think he should be the kilkenny captain this year instead of the situation we have.

usualstripes

Village87 wrote: »

If Jonjo Farrell is still on the panel he should be demanding his place on the starting team Saturday to make to for what they did to him v Wexford

Are you ok in the head or just trolling?

brookville

tbiggertycome wrote: »

While I agree with you that the keeper is an easy target and Murphy is a phenomenal keeper, the highlighted bit above to me is the key. If the players are just standing their waiting for it, the keeper has little option but to lump it down on the forwards or a short one to an uncovered corner back. However where I would question Murphy is why hasn't he taken the bull by the horns and instructed the half forwards to make runs for him to either create space or to double up on where the puck out will land. This is what Cork are doing and it works perfectly, now I'm sure their management are involved in this highly effective tactic but we all know Cody doesn't do that kind of stuff but doesn't mind if the players figure it out themselves.

There was a great interview on Newstalk I think, with David Herity and Michael Rice. Herity was asked "if Cody doesn't do tactics, what would he call the puckout strategy on the day?" (i think they were talking about the '12 AI replay) Herity replied that it didn't come from Cody that a few of the lads were leaving training one evening with Herity and they and quick chat about it and then they just did it for the replay, worked a treat. As Herity said Codys opinion on short puckouts was were no problem, as long as they were a 120 yards short.

I remember a few years ago the sunday game highlighted Murphy bout to take a puck out pointing to larking at lhf,Ger alyward sprinted from right corner forward into space and pointed it because all the defenders were drawn to larkin

danganabu

usualstripes wrote: »

Are you ok in the head or just trolling?

Have a read of his other 100 odd posts and this will become very clear and also either one or both of Paul Murphy and a member of the Cody clan beat the crap out of him or are shagging Mrs. Village87

Village87

usualstripes wrote: »

Are you ok in the head or just trolling?

Well I'm sure he said something to Cody and he is still there so I expect he will play a prominent role Saturday, Jonjo is not a pup on the panel anymore he has nothing to lose about venting his frustrations at management.

Twiceasnice97

Village87 wrote: »

If Jonjo Farrell is still on the panel he should be demanding his place on the starting team Saturday to make to for what they did to him v Wexford

Farrell is not a senior intercounty hurler.

greenspurs

Twiceasnice97 wrote: »

Farrell is not a senior intercounty hurler.

Even though hes on the panel since 2014 ??

tbiggertycome

Village87 wrote: »

Well I'm sure he said something to Cody and he is still there so I expect he will play a prominent role Saturday, Jonjo is not a pup on the panel anymore he has nothing to lose about venting his frustrations at management.

Jonjo can vent his frustrations all he want but that won't make a blind bit of difference to Cody. If he isn't hurling up to the standard he won't get a game simple as. If he is shooting the lights out he will play, it's not rocket science and I would think anyone that knows anything about the Kilkenny set up and or Brian Cody would tell you venting your frustrations too Brian will only achieve the opposite to what you want. I'd be very doubtful Jonjo will be taking your advice on this matter anytime soon.

Realt Dearg Sec

Village87 wrote: »

Well I'm sure he said something to Cody

Why are you sure of that?

The last lad who said something to Cody about not being on the team was probably Charlie Carter.

And Jonjo is no Charlie Carter.

JimTreacy

Would it be possible to find out here if season tickets are been scanned at the turnstile Saturday night or do they have to be printed, somebody called me they thought I had one there computer is after going down.

dastardly00

JimTreacy wrote: »

Would it be possible to find out here if season tickets are been scanned at the turnstile Saturday night or do they have to be printed, somebody called me they thought I had one there computer is after going down.

This is from the Kilkenny GAA website:

Season Ticket Holders will be contacted directly by Croke Park this week regarding arrangements for this fixture. Season Ticket Cards can be used to access the Ground via Stiles 14 to 17 on Hebron Road.

So it sounds like you don't have to print anything.
I don't have a Season Ticket, so please don't take my word for it!