Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

unrealtime

Cody saw nothing there. O'Loughlins were slow and unfit. Cuala not up to much; got away with much reckless use of the hurl. Won't get away with that next round.

brookville

unrealtime wrote: »

Cody saw nothing there. O'Loughlins were slow and unfit. Cuala not up to much; got away with much reckless use of the hurl. Won't get away with that next round.

Bit harsh if not for some heroic saves from murphy they could of scored 5 goals.O'loughlins looked sluggish alright and con o'callaghan was electric they had no1 to contain him,i agree cody didn't c a whole lot today I expected more from the two marks.congrats to cuala much deserved.

Topcat32

I see Kierans won the junior All Ireland today helped by a goal from Ciaran Brennan who is also an Irish soccer international, looks like a serious hurler.

Cornerback1

Cuala were the better team no doubt. Better all over the pitch. OLG's were second to every ball and they could never close that 3 point gap at different periods in the game.

Hammer Archer

dubcat51 wrote: »

Well said hammer.my own club here in dublin played you in a friendly a couple of weeks ago.

Which club if you don't mind me asking? There was three weeks between our quarter and semi final so it was probably to keep the match fitness up.

dubcat51

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Which club if you don't mind me asking? There was three weeks between our quarter and semi final so it was probably to keep the match fitness up.

St pats of palmerstown.

randd1

Bad result for OLG, well played off the park for the majority of the game and just about the right score difference.

Have to say it's a little bit unsettling to see how poor the Kilkenny senior clubs have played the last few years, Ballyhale apart. Most of the problems are up front where we don't see our clubs getting much change, or being inventive enough, in an attacking sense. It's a problem in the senior county championship as well, very few top quality forwards.

I hope I'm sincerely wrong, but it looks like in putting such an emphasis on hard work and closing down at underage, we're over-coaching the attacking instinct Kilkenny teams are famous for and taking away a bit of the maverick in our players. There's been more than a fair few instances at underage, schools and club in the last few years of Kilkenny sides not killing off teams when well in control or losing tight games. It's a bad habit we're developing.

Cornerback1

Anyone know when the National League fixtures come out?

windy shepard henderson

Cornerback1 wrote: »

Anyone know when the National League fixtures come out?

they are out as far as i know , this is next years master fixture list

http://www.hoganstand.com/Fixtures.aspx

JJs Left Hand

randd1 wrote: »

Bad result for OLG, well played off the park for the majority of the game and just about the right score difference.

Have to say it's a little bit unsettling to see how poor the Kilkenny senior clubs have played the last few years, Ballyhale apart. Most of the problems are up front where we don't see our clubs getting much change, or being inventive enough, in an attacking sense. It's a problem in the senior county championship as well, very few top quality forwards.

I hope I'm sincerely wrong, but it looks like in putting such an emphasis on hard work and closing down at underage, we're over-coaching the attacking instinct Kilkenny teams are famous for and taking away a bit of the maverick in our players. There's been more than a fair few instances at underage, schools and club in the last few years of Kilkenny sides not killing off teams when well in control or losing tight games. It's a bad habit we're developing.

I can't speak to other clubs but within my own I've had repeated arguments with lads who coach with me over moving the stronger hurlers backwards instead of forwards. Its something I'd noticed when I was growing up but really hit home this year at U12. There's a kid who I've been coaching to be a forward for about 3 years now - great ability in the air, can strike off both sides, good free taker and a sponge to take in advice. Only negative is a lack of raw pace which means he has to work harder to win his own ball than he should although that should stand to him in future. The best thing though is the raw instinct when he gets the ball to go straight for the black spot. No fear, gets the ball on the half forward line and as soon as he's past his man he's thinking goal.

However those same abilities above make him a great back at that age group and when I'm not there he invariably ends up half back against a strong team. The instinct of the other coaches is a fear of losing rather than having the confidence to go for the win. Then you throw in the fact that he was playing corner back for the U14s and I can only see him ending up in the backs now that I'm not going to be involved anymore.

dzer2

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

I can't speak to other clubs but within my own I've had repeated arguments with lads who coach with me over moving the stronger hurlers backwards instead of forwards. Its something I'd noticed when I was growing up but really hit home this year at U12. There's a kid who I've been coaching to be a forward for about 3 years now - great ability in the air, can strike off both sides, good free taker and a sponge to take in advice. Only negative is a lack of raw pace which means he has to work harder to win his own ball than he should although that should stand to him in future. The best thing though is the raw instinct when he gets the ball to go straight for the black spot. No fear, gets the ball on the half forward line and as soon as he's past his man he's thinking goal.

However those same abilities above make him a great back at that age group and when I'm not there he invariably ends up half back against a strong team. The instinct of the other coaches is a fear of losing rather than having the confidence to go for the win. Then you throw in the fact that he was playing corner back for the U14s and I can only see him ending up in the backs now that I'm not going to be involved anymore.

The club dont have a winning mentality at any age

dastardly00

Eoin Larkin was on Newstalk's Off the Ball last week to discuss his retirement. It's not the most insightful interview in the world, but it is interesting to hear that Larkin didn't spend too long thinking about retirement before making the decision.

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/804792620069298176

Cornerback1

dastardly00 wrote: »

Eoin Larkin was on Newstalk's Off the Ball last week to discuss his retirement. It's not the most insightful interview in the world, but it is interesting to hear that Larkin didn't spend too long thinking about retirement before making the decision.

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/804792620069298176

I think after he spent time away earlier in the year with the army that he thought maybe county hurling, and at his stage, was down the list a bit.

He has a young family and maybe wanted to spend time with them. Only natural i think. Fair play to him. Life goes on. He owes nobody anything.

#oneofthemostunderrated

kkclubhurling

Just back from the u21 final which the Rower won 2.12 to 1.13 against the Boro.

Pat Lyng was excellent for the Rower and won a mountain of dirty ball, they're centre back Jack Walsh was brilliant too. Richie Leahy scored two wonder points and got a goal after a class save from the Boro goalie, his talent is amazing but he can tend to come in and out of games, he probably will need that consistency to be in real contention for Kilkenny.

For the Boro their half backs Conor Doheny and Aidan Nolan were both excellent and Doheny in particular is a massive talent, Evan Cody is also hugely talented hurler and i'd say we could see him in the league for KK next year

citykat

Congrats to the Rower on today. On a heavy pitch in a low scoring game it was going to come down to goals scored when deciding the winner. The Rower clinched it when a speculative ball over the top caught the Boro full back line flatfooted. The corner forward still had a bit of work to do but finished well scoring Richie Hogan style. The Boro had a chance immediately prior but was bravely blocked by the corner back.
The Rower seemed better balanced overall while the Boro strong at the back lacked a little in the forwards. Along with those already mentioned I'd add Murphy at midfield for the Boro.

dubcat51

Thanks for the report citykat.hopefully look forward to some of those mentioned getting a run in the walsh cup or league.we should have a good 21s this year.

Village87

How good is Tullogher/Rosbercons Thomas O' Connor at hurling?.Scored an outrageous goal in Old Trafford last night against Manchester United. Probably a future loss for Kilkenny. Minor next year again going by his age. Is he anything to the 2 O'Connors who were outstanding in this years Intermediate semi final for Tullogher in Nowlan Park ?

kilkennyboy

Village87 wrote: »

How good is Tullogher/Rosbercons Thomas O' Connor at hurling?.Scored an outrageous goal in Old Trafford last night against Manchester United. Probably a future loss for Kilkenny. Minor next year again going by his age. Is he anything to the 2 O'Connors who were outstanding in this years Intermediate semi final for Tullogher in Nowlan Park ?

the chap who got the winner in that game.his mother is Kevin farrells aunt from carrickshock.
so two kilkenny chaps on the score sheet in old traford

dubcat51

Thomas o connor is a super hurler.played on the new ross team that won the schools junior all ireland at midfield.definite loss to kk
.

unrealtime

The Indo transferred him to a Wexford native - all journalists are bone lazy

dubcat51

See the walsh cup fixtures are out.kk to play antrim in abbotstown 2nd game on the 15/1/17.first game on the 5/1/17 at home to dcu

brookville

dubcat51 wrote: »

See the walsh cup fixtures are out.kk to play antrim in abbotstown 2nd game on the 15/1/17.first game on the 5/1/17 at home to dcu

I think there going away on holidays the 27th of december so it will probaly be something like last years walsh cup panel

cul beag

I believe Peter Queally will be training the Rower next year. Won a county in Waterford with Passage but get used to the sweeper system he seems to favour that.

Cornerback1

I see Eoin Murphy came on (outfield) for Leinster in this evening's Inter-Pro Final in Thurles. He did ok but didn't see much ball in fairness.

halfforward

Senior A
O Loughlins
St Martins
Carrickshock
Rower
Erin's own
Mullinavat

B
Clara
Danesfort
Bridge
Village
Boro
Balyhale

Intermediate
A
Dunnamaggin
Glenmore
Ballycallan
Fenians
Tullaroan
Tullagher
B
Ballyragget
Freshford
Thomastown
Mooncoin
Lisdowney
Gowran

wingbacknr5

halfforward wrote: »

Senior A
O Loughlins
St Martins
Carrickshock
Rower
Erin's own
Mullinavat

B
Clara
Danesfort
Bridge
Village
Boro
Balyhale

Intermediate
A
Dunnamaggin
Glenmore
Ballycallan
Fenians
Tullaroan
Tullagher
B
Ballyragget
Freshford
Thomastown
Mooncoin
Lisdowney
Gowran

Link?

Seems very early for these draws to be made.

Noddy33

wingbacknr5 wrote: »

halfforward wrote: »

Senior A
O Loughlins
St Martins
Carrickshock
Rower
Erin's own
Mullinavat

B
Clara
Danesfort
Bridge
Village
Boro
Balyhale

Intermediate
A
Dunnamaggin
Glenmore
Ballycallan
Fenians
Tullaroan
Tullagher
B
Ballyragget
Freshford
Thomastown
Mooncoin
Lisdowney
Gowran

Link?

Seems very early for these draws to be made.

Draws were made last night on the County Convention in OLG halls. The groups listed above are correct

Noddy33

wingbacknr5 wrote: »

halfforward wrote: »

Senior A
O Loughlins
St Martins
Carrickshock
Rower
Erin's own
Mullinavat

B
Clara
Danesfort
Bridge
Village
Boro
Balyhale

Intermediate
A
Dunnamaggin
Glenmore
Ballycallan
Fenians
Tullaroan
Tullagher
B
Ballyragget
Freshford
Thomastown
Mooncoin
Lisdowney
Gowran

Link?

Seems very early for these draws to be made.

Draws were made last night at the County Convention in OLG hall. The groups listed above are correct

wingbacknr5

Noddy33 wrote: »

Draws were made last night at the County Convention in OLG hall. The groups listed above are correct

Thanks.

Were the junior draws made?

barneygumble99

Were the junior draws made?[/quote]

Group A

Barrow Rangers
Windgap
Conahy
Piltown
Kilmacow
Emeralds


Group B

Slieverue
Blacks and Whites
John Lockes
Graignamanagh
Galmoy
Cloneen