Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

brookville

Well done to both local clubs today.carrickshock got over a tricky hurdle today and they along with mooncoin should win leinster.hopefully o loughlins do the business tommorow but it will be a tough assignment in wexford park.

brookville

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

Looks like Kiltale, as expected, put it up to the Shocks earlier. Third year in a row to go down to KK opposition by 3 points I think.

According to KK twitter Mooncoin finished with 13.

Any reports on either game?

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2016/11/19/4130409-cynical-carrickshock-too-streetwise-for-kiltale/

dastardly00

brookville wrote: »

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2016/11/19/4130409-cynical-carrickshock-too-streetwise-for-kiltale/

Yet another game where Carrickshock don't finish with 15 players on the pitch. Jaysus.

robwen

brookville wrote: »

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2016/11/19/4130409-cynical-carrickshock-too-streetwise-for-kiltale/

Thats a joke of a match report, talk about bitterness

Topcat32

Sounds like a typical hurling match between a Kilkenny and Meath team, always a struggle to keep 15 players on the pitch against them and then you have to listen to them whinge about fair play.

paulie gaultieri

Are Lismore due to play the Galway clamps in the IHC semi-final?

KevIRL

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

Are Lismore due to play the Galway clamps in the IHC semi-final?

Yep

paulie gaultieri

http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/gaa/articles/2016/11/20/4130414-carrickshock-response-to-report/

Realt Dearg Sec

I wouldn't have responded at all that article if I was carrickshock. It's loser talk of the highest order, not worth responding to. Shock won the match, they don't need to win the popularity contest as well.

allthedoyles

After today I would think Mark Bergin will easily qualify for KK captaincy . And he scored 1-8 .

brookville

Congrats to the city men with an impressive win over the current leinster champions and finish off a good weekend for kilkenny clubs.Paddy deegan and Huw lawlor continuing their good form which is a positive.Did anyone hear of any newcomers called up to the senior panel?

blackcard

brookville wrote: »

Congrats to the city men with an impressive win over the current leinster champions and finish off a good weekend for kilkenny clubs.Paddy deegan and Huw lawlor continuing their good form which is a positive.Did anyone hear of any newcomers called up to the senior panel?

Young Comerford should get a shot. Scored 4 great points today

Butterbeans

Some interesting stats from under Codys reign.

http://takeoffthecornerforward.com/the-cody-era-the-numbers-part-1/

Noddy33

brookville wrote: »

Congrats to the city men with an impressive win over the current leinster champions and finish off a good weekend for kilkenny clubs.Paddy deegan and Huw lawlor continuing their good form which is a positive.Did anyone hear of any newcomers called up to the senior panel?

Cody and backroom team had a meeting with players last Friday to just give details of agenda and pre-season intentions. The new players brought into this meeting were Ollie Walsh, Luke Scanlon, Richie Leahy,Pat Lyng and John Walsh.Some of these players would have been brought in to for training matches at some stages in the last while. The current panel size is around 43 players and doesnt take into consideration the likelihood of some O'Loughlin Gaels players being called up. Id imagine it will be a open panel until after Walsh cup with a cull of players just before league commences depending on injury numbers within panel

dastardly00

Butterbeans wrote: »

Some interesting stats from under Codys reign.

http://takeoffthecornerforward.com/the-cody-era-the-numbers-part-1/

Some very interesting stats there, well worth a look. I'd say that took a hell of a lot or work as well to compile. Fair play to the chap who did it.

Interesting to see the positions that are subbed the most, and the least!

65 games in NHL & SHC in Nowlan Park and an 85% win ratio. 77% and 74% for Croke Park respectively.

dubcat51

Gr8t win for olg.should be a belter with cuala.should be in nowlan park after clara playing in parnell pk last year.great to see gorta can still rip it up.also would love to see mark kelly really kick on and fullfill his potential.

Village87

Cant really see many of the new faces making an impression really. Kilkenny have really struggled in Leinster u21 last 4 or 5 years and the players called have not been really up to the level required with the exception of Leahy.
Mostly forwards called in too, i think Kilkenny really struggled in the backs and midfield without Fennelly leed ast year, Joyce, Holden, Fogarty and Pendergast need to be really pushed hard for there places after a poor year last year. Need a bit more Steele in the back 8 without Fenbnelly now, Tipp completly dominated these positions last year

blue note

dastardly00 wrote: »

Some very interesting stats there, well worth a look. I'd say that took a hell of a lot or work as well to compile. Fair play to the chap who did it.

Interesting to see the positions that are subbed the most, and the least!

65 games in NHL & SHC in Nowlan Park and an 85% win ratio. 77% and 74% for Croke Park respectively.

Very interesting figures. It's interesting that even with the greatest hurling manager in the history of the game he still takes off the corner forwards first. I always think it's so harsh on these guys.

One thing to note on it though - very often I imagine he was taking them off to play an extra midfielder or a sweeper, so might be tactical.

Cornerback1

dubcat51 wrote: »

Gr8t win for olg.should be a belter with cuala.should be in nowlan park after clara playing in parnell pk last year.great to see gorta can still rip it up.also would love to see mark kelly really kick on and fullfill his potential.

The match is confirmed for O'Moore Park, Portlaoise, on Sunday Dec 4th at 2pm.

brookville

Cornerback1 wrote: »

The match is confirmed for O'Moore Park, Portlaoise, on Sunday Dec 4th at 2pm.

The clara match was a semi final and the final is mostly neutral venue.I thought carlow would of being more appropriate.

paulie gaultieri

Carrickshock letter only resulted in the term cynical moving to the sub heading......

Realt Dearg Sec

paulie gaultieri wrote: »

Carrickshock letter only resulted in the term cynical moving to the sub heading......

Also, streetwise is just another dogwhistle term for dirty. If I was from Kiltale I'd be telling the newspaper to stop making a show of them at this point.

sc86

i think anybody from mulinavat or bennitsbridge that played kiltale or saw kiltale play will give you a proper run down of what they are like on and off the field, i doubt there would be a bad word said about them, so please dont jump to conclusion about them been a dirty team, running down meath hurling is fairly lame, we cant all be kilkenny but at least people are trying to improve

it is not kiltale fault that a paper is reporting on what they saw,
carrickshock won the game , thats the important thing, think people should move on
best of luck to them

ref was poor for both teams and contributed to what was a poor game

sc86

sc86 wrote: »

i think anybody from mulinavat or bennitsbridge that played kiltale or saw kiltale play will give you a proper run down of what they are like on and off the field, i doubt there would be a bad word said about them, so please dont jump to conclusion about them been a dirty team, running down meath hurling is fairly lame, we cant all be kilkenny but at least people are trying to improve

it is not kiltale fault that a paper is reporting on what they saw,
carrickshock won the game , thats the important thing, think people should move on
best of luck to them

ref was poor for both teams and contributed to what was a poor game

Meath are doing incredible work in hurling and hopefully ye can mirror what Tipperary are doing in football over the next few years.

I know a hurling mad fella from Kiltale who used hurl for Meath in the past and the same man would talk hurling morning noon and night. He absolutely loves the sport. For him alone i hope ye go on to become competitive.

Realt Dearg Sec

sc86 wrote: »

i think anybody from mulinavat or bennitsbridge that played kiltale or saw kiltale play will give you a proper run down of what they are like on and off the field, i doubt there would be a bad word said about them, so please dont jump to conclusion about them been a dirty team, running down meath hurling is fairly lame, we cant all be kilkenny but at least people are trying to improve

it is not kiltale fault that a paper is reporting on what they saw,
carrickshock won the game , thats the important thing, think people should move on
best of luck to them

ref was poor for both teams and contributed to what was a poor game

I didn't call Kiltale dirty. The Meath rag called Carrickshock dirty. Well..."streetwise".

sc86

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

I didn't call Kiltale dirty. The Meath rag called Carrickshock dirty. Well..."streetwise".

plenty of games have been won by ways other than hurling only
nothing wrong with testing the rules and doing everything you can to win
i wouldnt disagree with that statement but i wouldnt take it as a insult

the cover of the sports section slated both teams for the scuffle near the dugout so it wasnt a attack on just your team as is been portrayed here
personally i would do anything to insure my own team won and
i think carrickshock stopped kiltale gettin any flow going, fair play to them

the game was not a great advert for hurling in general
i personally blame the ref, he had not control over the game and indirectly caused alot of the scuffles with poor decision making

my point is please dont blame the kiltale team for any of the crap in the papers or the crap i have saw on social media, course they were dissapointed but they lost and thats it, they had a bad day but they will be back, they have made huge strides in recent years
the problem is the teams coming out of inter in kilkenny are so strong compared to other counties

Realt Dearg Sec

sc86 wrote: »

plenty of games have been won by ways other than hurling only
nothing wrong with testing the rules and doing everything you can to win
i wouldnt disagree with that statement but i wouldnt take it as a insult

the cover of the sports section slated both teams for the scuffle near the dugout so it wasnt a attack on just your team as is been portrayed here
personally i would do anything to insure my own team won and
i think carrickshock stopped kiltale gettin any flow going, fair play to them

the game was not a great advert for hurling in general
i personally blame the ref, he had not control over the game and indirectly caused alot of the scuffles with poor decision making

my point is please dont blame the kiltale team for any of the crap in the papers or the crap i have saw on social media, course they were dissapointed but they lost and thats it, they had a bad day but they will be back, they have made huge strides in recent years
the problem is the teams coming out of inter in kilkenny are so strong compared to other counties

I didn't blame Kiltale, anywhere.

Topcat32

Village87 wrote: »

Cant really see many of the new faces making an impression really. Kilkenny have really struggled in Leinster u21 last 4 or 5 years and the players called have not been really up to the level required with the exception of Leahy.
Mostly forwards called in too, i think Kilkenny really struggled in the backs and midfield without Fennelly leed ast year, Joyce, Holden, Fogarty and Pendergast need to be really pushed hard for there places after a poor year last year. Need a bit more Steele in the back 8 without Fenbnelly now, Tipp completly dominated these positions last year

Luke Scanlon hasnt been up to standard at underage level? despite winning a minor all ireland medal, thats a pretty high standard your setting there, didnt John Walsh score two goals in both a minor and intermediate all ireland final?? Also did Ollie Walsh not win a minor and play pretty well untill he was taken out of it in an under 21 final against Clare, no need to play the complete poor mouth

Bulldog 12

It's the agm time of year for most clubs now. Any major changes within clubs with new managers or talks of managers staying put again with same teams??

brookville

Topcat32 wrote: »

Luke Scanlon hasnt been up to standard at underage level? despite winning a minor all ireland medal, thats a pretty high standard your setting there, didnt John Walsh score two goals in both a minor and intermediate all ireland final?? Also did Ollie Walsh not win a minor and play pretty well untill he was taken out of it in an under 21 final against Clare, no need to play the complete poor mouth

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=263571
fixtures for walsh cup,I expect coady to take control of this to scout for any newcomers.when are the panel going on holidays?