Edinburgh vs Munster; Sat 6 Nov 5:15pm; BBCALBA/Sky Sports

thomond2006

Munster:
Simon Zebo; Gerhard van den Heever, Keith Earls, Francis Saili, Ronan O'Mahony; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray;
Dave Kilcoyne, Duncan Casey, John Ryan; Donnacha Ryan, Dave Foley; Dave O'Callaghan, Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander - capt.

Replacements: Niall Scannell, James Cronin, Mario Sagario, Robin Copeland, Jordan Coghlan, Tomás O'Leary, Rory Scannell, Denis Hurley.

Edinburgh Rugby v Munster

15 Blair Kinghorn
14 Damien Hoyland
13 Will Helu
12 Matt Scott
11 Tom Brown
10 Greig Tonks
9 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne

1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford
3 WP Nel
4 Anton Bresler
5 Alex Toolis
6 Mike Coman (captain)
7 Hamish Watson
8 Cornell Du Preez

Substitutes

16 Neil Cochrane
17 Rory Sutherland
18 John Andress
19 Roddy Grant
20 Nasi Manu
21 Sean Kennedy
22 Andries Strauss
23 Dougie Fife

Players not considered due to injury
Michael Allen (shoulder), Sam Beard (hip), Phil Burleigh (leg), Grant Gilchrist (groin), Stuart McInally (neck), Jade Te Riure (knee), Ben Toolis (elbow)

Players not considered this week
Fraser McKenzie, David Denton

A lot of talking points here!

- No Sherry, Chisholm and Conway in the 23. Rotation or not selected?
- Botha not in the 23 either but I saw a pic this week where he sat out training...
- Earls at centre meaning Hurley is on the bench.
- Zebo at 15
- No Sean Doyle or Amorosino (although Amorosino probably rested after RWC)
- No Bleyendaal again
- That's a decent looking Edinburgh team. Du Preez is a handful anytime I've seen him, he missed most of last season through injury.
- In the last two visits Munster have battered Edinburgh. Let's hope for the same again.

phog

I've taken out Sky Sports so I'm delighted to see this is on BBC Alba.

Good to see Earls & Saili partner each other. Worrying that Tyler is still on the wounded list.

former total

It's frustrating the way other Pro12 teams tell you why players have not been selected, but the Irish provinces don't.

Munster need to get Bleyendall fit; if anything happens to Keatley, they're in serious trouble.

Not a bad Embra team, could be a tough assignment.

case885

I saw bleyendaal heading in to CIT during the week, don't know whether he was training or not.
Hes a better 10 than keatley, I was hoping he'd have gotten ahead of him in time for Europe.

thomond2006

case885 wrote: »

I saw bleyendaal heading in to CIT during the week, don't know whether he was training or not.
Hes a better 10 than keatley, I was hoping he'd have gotten ahead of him in time for Europe.

Munster desperately need him back. We don't want a situation where Rory Scannell (who is still in the academy) needs to come on at Stade Francais.

Crimsonforce

Harahan on as a sub for his first game in Northampton jersey. Has a nightmare.
Kicks being Charged down, dropping balls

Only thing is he scored a penalty which gave them a losing bonus point.

NU8

That's a lovely Munster Jersey!

Goldstein

Nice to see ROM starting. He had a great run of form last season and will have to have a good game to keep Conway out who's been very busy in every game he's played in - always looking to get involved.

They have huge pace in that back line with Earls, VDH, Zebo and ROM all starting. Hope we get to see them unleash some of it tonight even though it'll still be a bit slippy from the rain earlier.

They have a strong team out - quietly optimistic

thomond2006

Robson: "Tasmanian devil with a kilt"

thomond2006

Very nice kick from Saili

icdg

NU8 wrote: »

That's a lovely Munster Jersey!

Must be some confusion with Munster wearing black and Edinburgh wearing a weird Jersey featuring a bit of red...

LuckyGent88

Good start anyway.

Really like our jersey too.

thomond2006

John Ryan try against the post. Pretty easy.

Pink Fairy

Nice to see Ryan score and show some physical power to do so, have to admit I thought his career was in doubt a year or so ago

Goldstein

I think VDH had time to choose not to hit him, silly.

Pink Fairy

Not much GVDH could do there, the player jumped into him and he couldn't pull out

thomond2006

A bit headless from GVDH. Always a yellow these days for that.

Edit: Unlucky maybe to be a bit late to the ball.

This on the radio anywhere does anyone know please!

DDC1990

Whats he meant to do? Make himself invisible, your man jumped at him!

case885

Poor John Ryan got minced there, Edinburgh seem to get a better shove on in the scrum.

BBDBB

Keatly kicking well from hand for territory

case885

Saili could do a job for us at 7 :pac

Goldstein

Very harsh on Jack there, looked through the gate to me.

LuckyGent88

Great work by saili

aimee1

DDC1990 wrote: »

Whats he meant to do? Make himself invisible, your man jumped at him!

He did tackle him though. He had time to back out of it

Pink Fairy

aimee1 wrote: »

He did tackle him though. He had time to back out of it

Not a hope, he was running full tilt, he put the brakes on, that's all he could do

aimee1

Pink Fairy wrote: »

Not a hope, he was running full tilt, he put the brakes on, that's all he could do

But he did tackle him. Thats a yc

LuckyGent88

Unlucky from jack again. He was rolling away from the tackle the correct way.

sioda

Very harsh on Jack tbf

Pink Fairy

aimee1 wrote: »

But he did tackle him. Thats a yc

He put his hands up, its a reflex reaction, it wasn't an attempt at a tackle

LuckyGent88

Pathetic tackling

Goldstein

Woeful tackling from VDH and Zebo - both mugged on the inside. Very poor from both of them.

thomond2006

Very poor defence. Brown stepped inside VDH too easily.

BBDBB

Our own aimless kicking gifted that opportunity and they took it beautifully

DDC1990

Referee being quite harsh on Munster tonight.

EDIT: AS I say that he gives that penalty.

DDC1990

Terrible from Keatley from a gift from Edinburgh.

Goldstein

Getting embarrassing for the front row. Looks like men against boys.

thomond2006

Time for front row replacements. Munster will lose this if the scrum woes continue.

That's really really harsh. He'd a player lying on top of him.

DDC1990

No point having a great flashy backline if they can't get the ball.

Really disappointing all night.

aimee1

thomond2006 wrote: »

Time for front row replacements. Munster will lose this if the scrum woes continue.

Cronin on for kilcoyne abt 10 min ago

Sagario on for ryan now

LuckyGent88

Just how to fcuk is he supposed to get away from that tackle.

Getting what we deserve here anyway. Very poor performance. Got off to the perfect start but have been dominated since

molloyjh

I hate seeing guys getting pinged for not rolling away when there is simply no possible way for them to do so. It's starting to get quite easy to buy penalties at the breakdown in that regard, yet taking guys out off the ruck is never penalised.


Ah Jesus Keatley....

thomond2006

What was that from Keatley?! Jaysus.

Bridge93

Harsh yellow there unless it was for penalty accumulation perhaps?

DDC1990

Referee strikes again.

Ridiculous yellow.

He landed the right side but they rucked over to leave him on the wrong side with a guy on top of him.

Repeated infringements? He said he warned them before half time!

No infringements of that kind in nearly 20 minutes.

Del.Monte

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Bridge93

Bridge93 wrote: »

Harsh yellow there unless it was for penalty accumulation perhaps?

The card was for repeat infringements but I don't even see how that was a penalty, he couldn't roll away there. It's going to become a legit tactic to lie on the player to milk a penalty.

BBDBB

Cute play by Cronin to milk the penalty

Exact same situation there, no possible way for Ford to roll out of that.

irishbucsfan

molloyjh wrote: »

I hate seeing guys getting pinged for not rolling away when there is simply no possible way for them to do so. It's starting to get quite easy to buy penalties at the breakdown in that regard, yet taking guys out off the ruck is never penalised.


Ah Jesus Keatley....

Its about not putting yourself in a position where you can get trapped. Which is entirely up to the tackler and his technique. I assure you it is not easy to buy penalties that way.