Best Place to Buy Belgian Beer in Ireland

Neon_Lights

So i've been to Belgium twice this year and have just fell in love with the beer there... however this is becoming an expensive pastime, The only place i've found that stocks a good variety is Mc Hughs off licence in artane, have any of you guys got any other suggestions?

BeerNut

DrinkStore, Redmond's, Deveney's, Martin's: any of the decent off licences, really.

munchkin_utd

Neon_Lights wrote: »

So i've been to Belgium twice this year and have just fell in love with the beer there... however this is becoming an expensive pastime, <snip>

It is expensive, but even in Belgium you are looking at a small bottle costing between €1.50 and €2.50 depending on what youre getting.

If you could get some delivered mail order from abroad, you can get bottles for that €2 ish a bottle and then if youre lucky €1ish per bottle postage and packing for a box of 20 or 24 bottles.

I cant remember where I saw options for properly priced beer, but as an idea, gourmondo charges €15 for a postage of a box to Ireland it seems
http://www.gourmondo.de/g/category/NN122G10/Belgien.jsf for beer
http://www.gourmondo.de/g/cms/grmd+service+02+c+versand.jsf for postage
They are not the cheapest though for their beer.

munchkin_utd

or an alternative (kindof).
You can get a landbridge ferry ticket for Irish sea crossing and Dover to Dunkirk (half hour from Belgian border) combined for about €115 each way for car and driver (€20 per extra adult). Petrol across UK is an extra cost, but theres no tolls.
If you were to just do a wee holiday, long weekend or whatever, visit Bruges/ World war 1 sites and other places in that area, you could just stock up in Belgium with enough beer to do you a few years.

The great thing about Belgian beer is that it has a high alcohol content so is good normally for 2 or 3 years. I've a heap of stuff from 2 and 3 christmases ago from passing through Belgium that is still ok, some of it needing to be drank this spring and some of it ok for another year- or 2 !

Mesrine65

I've used these guys before without issue...

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/

schemingbohemia

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I've used these guys before without issue...

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/[/QUOTE]

They've a "selection for women" section? Seriously dodgy thinking there.

munchkin_utd

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I've used these guys before without issue...

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/[/QUOTE]

They've a "selection for women" section? Seriously dodgy thinking there.

yea, the flavoured less strong lambics and whatnot.

My mrs loves them and for my self protection I know know to at least throw in a 6pack of "lady friendly beer" when purchasing my overloaded trolly load of man friendly Belgian beer.

schemingbohemia

I thought it was going to link through to an Al Murray pub landlord skit or something as a joke.....

aaronm13

Mesrine65 wrote: »

I've used these guys before without issue...

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/

Another vote for these guys. Great value when you buy in bulk and works out a lot cheaper than here. Sweeneys in Glasnevin has a great selection too.

Geuze

Their prices include Belgian excise and VAT.

Is that okay with our Revenue?

Mesrine65

Geuze wrote: »

Their prices include Belgian excise and VAT.

Is that okay with our Revenue?

I've ordered a crate every 3 weeks for the last 2 years without issue.

I can't answer your question re., Irish revenue though.

Clive Bisquette

Primus a 5% belgian beer can be had in Supervalu @ €6 for 4 500ml cans.!

Probably too common for the folks on here though.??

BeerNut

Clive Bisquette wrote: »

too common

I don't think I've ever seen it on sale in Ireland.

lk67

Geuze wrote: »

Their prices include Belgian excise and VAT.

Is that okay with our Revenue?

I'm pretty sure the answer is 'No,' from previous threads and research.

the beer revolu

Geuze wrote: »

Their prices include Belgian excise and VAT.

Is that okay with our Revenue?

It's most definitely not ok with Irish Revenue (no matter how many people have had beer delivered without problems).

Neon_Lights

Thanks for the tips guys tried martins in fairview it was right under my nose got big bottles of kwak and tripel karmiliet, 4 straffe Hendrik, 3 westmalle tripel and a big bottle of aspalls cider for 40 quid and they threw in a free glass too which was dead nice ... Have been looking at Belgian beer factory and defo will put in a big order for Xmas does anybody know what the delivery time on them is?

donaghs

Clive Bisquette wrote: »

Primus a 5% belgian beer can be had in Supervalu @ €6 for 4 500ml cans.!

Probably too common for the folks on here though.??

I got a few Primus cans in a Centra in town once (don't mind a cheap lager deal now and then), but nothing special and a bit headachy the next day. Worse than Stella and Jupiler I thought.

I still love the dark Trappist beers, but in terms of flavour variety I'm much more intersted in newer craft beers from other countries.

Clive Bisquette

donaghs wrote: »

I got a few Primus cans in a Centra in town once (don't mind a cheap lager deal now and then), but nothing special and a bit headachy the next day. Worse than Stella and Jupiler I thought.

I still love the dark Trappist beers, but in terms of flavour variety I'm much more intersted in newer craft beers from other countries.

Yeah 'fraid I am a fan of value beers ...always feel I am getting ripped off by the craft beer movement...probably incorrectly...have tried a few but feel there is insufficient difference in taste to justify the substantial price difference.

But to each his own...happy drinkin !

Mesrine65

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Have been looking at Belgian beer factory and defo will put in a big order for Xmas does anybody know what the delivery time on them is?

Turn-around time from ordering to delivery varies depending on stock levels & time of year.

Anything from 7 - 28 days in my experience.

Neon_Lights

Mesrine65 wrote: »

Turn-around time from ordering to delivery varies depending on stock levels & time of year.

Anything from 7 - 28 days in my experience.

Will order now hopefully it comes in before xmas thanks

lk67

Clive Bisquette wrote: »

... but feel there is insufficient difference in taste to justify the substantial price difference.

Heretic!

Burn him at the stake!

Clive Bisquette

lk67 wrote: »

Heretic!

Burn him at the stake!

he heh sorry I don't want to line the pockets of any shower of beardie smart boys who brew up in some cow shed and try to sell it to gullibles at inflated prices.

No lad...old Clive just dosen't fall for that one !

BeerNut

Clive Bisquette wrote: »

old Clive just dosen't fall for that one !

He seems to have hoovered up the idea of a "craft beer movement" rather than "good beer" and "bad beer" though. Bless 'im.

Clive Bisquette

BeerNut wrote: »

He seems to have hoovered up the idea of a "craft beer movement" rather than "good beer" and "bad beer" though. Bless 'im.

No argument with you Nutty fully support the campaign for more choice and indeed I am cognisant of good and bad beers.

I wish the Beer education movement every success ..we have been waiting a long time for something as necessary and vital as this ...and if some lads make a few shillings doin the brewin an educatin...well what's not to like about that ?

It's all good innit

Cantstandsya

Sorry for jumping into the thread. I'm about to put in an order with Belgianbeerfactory and while I see you guys reckon they're not okay with Irish revenue, am curious if anyone here has actually had any issues with their orders (i.e. being stung for a few quid on delivery).

Mesrine65

Cantstandsya wrote: »

Sorry for jumping into the thread. I'm about to put in an order with Belgianbeerfactory and while I see you guys reckon they're not okay with Irish revenue, am curious if anyone here has actually had any issues with their orders (i.e. being stung for a few quid on delivery).

I received my order during the week without issue...this does not guarantee however that revenue will not seize your order re., excise :eek:

As far I know the onus to pay excise duties in the member state of the purchaser, in the case of distance selling, rests upon the vendor, although I'm open to correction.

Quoted from T&C's...

"All the prices displayed on www.belgianbeerfactory.com include VAT and excise duties. Nonetheless those prices exclude the shipping charges. Those shipping charges will be added later on in the checkout process, depending on multiple parameters. NTCE is obliged by law to charge Belgian VAT rates and Belgian excise duties to all their prices.
Businesses as well have the ability to order certain products. On this matter, NTCE makes a clear distinction between whether or not it’s a Belgian or non-Belgian business.
Belgian VAT-registered businesses will be charged with both Belgian VAT rates and excise duties. If the particular business has a valid VAT-number, NTCE will draw up an invoice.
Non-Belgian VAT-registered businesses, located within the EU-countries, won’t be charged with Belgian VAT, but they will have to pay Belgian excise duties. NTCE has the ability to request all sorts of documents, proving their VAT-number is valid. When both their VAT-number seems valid and the payment has been confirmed, NTCE will draw up an invoice.
Regardless the fact that it involves an end-consumer, a Belgian- or non-Belgian VAT-registered business, NTCE is not responsible for their obligations towards local authorities."

3. Custom Obligations
Regardless the fact that you are an end-consumer, a Belgian- or non-Belgian VAT-registered business, NTCE is never responsible for the obligations you have towards local authorities. By visiting our website or by ordering products you agree with this term and you acknowledge that it’s your responsibility.
Even though NTCE fully protects your privacy, it is perfectly possible that local customs open your package in order to check its content. Unfortunately this is beyond our control and so it falls outside our responsibility. This might cause a certain delay in time of delivery. When such an inconvenience occurs, please contact your local customs office.

BeerNut

Mesrine65 wrote: »

As far I know the onus to pay excise duties in the member state of the purchaser, in the case of distance selling, rests upon the vendor, although I'm open to correction.

You're correct.

NTCE is never responsible for the obligations you have towards local authorities. By visiting our website or by ordering products you agree with this term and you acknowledge that it’s your responsibility.

Yeah, no.

UnknownSpecies

Might get a crate of Belgian stuff from that website. I'm not well acquainted with Belgian beer in general. Anyone here able to recommend a crate that would give me a good start?

BeerNut

A crate of a single beer? Bernardus Abt 12 and Chouffe Houblon are both excellent.

UnknownSpecies

BeerNut wrote: »

A crate of a single beer? Bernardus Abt 12 and Chouffe Houblon are both excellent.

Maybe one of the selection crates. I like to mix it up, I never stick to the same stuff for too long! I assume you can't get Bernardus Abt 12 and Chouffe Houblon in Ireland?

tomhalloween

Has anyone ordered beer from gourmondo.de lately? I made an order for last Christmas but when I click on any beer on the website now it states delivery to Germany only?

MonkstownHoop

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

Maybe one of the selection crates. I like to mix it up, I never stick to the same stuff for too long! I assume you can't get Bernardus Abt 12 and Chouffe Houblon in Ireland?

You can in good shops

BeerNut

UnknownSpecies wrote: »

Maybe one of the selection crates.

Oh right, the "beer boxes". The IPA one looks good and the Famous Belgian Beers one has only a small amount of rubbish in it. But very few of the beers the site sells are not available in Ireland.

UnknownSpecies

Might leave it off so. I'm in Kilkenny so not much going on down here in terms of choice compared to Dublin. That being said, The Wine Centre is great and do have a large Belgian selection. I just haven't explored it.

Hockney

Mesrine65 wrote: »

As far I know the onus to pay excise duties in the member state of the purchaser, in the case of distance selling, rests upon the vendor, although I'm open to correction.

Another vote for Belgian Beer factory! Got 24 x Westmalle shipped to the door for €63 including taxes and shipping. That would've been €95 to buy in most off licences here, so a 33% saving without having to take your slippers off.

Mesrine, I think you're correct, whatever VAT/excise I paid, I paid on the website. No questions asked on delivery.

They were also cheaper than any other online options I could find. Beers were wrapped up with kid gloves also, the box took a fairly decent impact somewhere along the way but they had each one individually padded.

How could you say no to some of these gift packs?!

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/gift-keg-present/

Ideo

good to hear about your order,, ordered 3 mixed boxes last night for 99 incl delivery. about 45 beers so hope no hassle with customs. anybody ordered that many before and if so, how did you get on?

kaltz

Hockney wrote: »

Another vote for Belgian Beer factory! Got 24 x Westmalle shipped to the door for €63 including taxes and shipping. That would've been €95 to buy in most off licences here, so a 33% saving without having to take your slippers off.

Mesrine, I think you're correct, whatever VAT/excise I paid, I paid on the website. No questions asked on delivery.

They were also cheaper than any other online options I could find. Beers were wrapped up with kid gloves also, the box took a fairly decent impact somewhere along the way but they had each one individually padded.

How could you say no to some of these gift packs?!

http://www.belgianbeerfactory.com/gift-keg-present/

Who did you use for delivery? Probably wont risk getting them this side of Christmas but might be a nice New Years present to me.

Scratch that - just seen the delivery options on the site. DOH

a_non_a_mouse

I placed an order with Belgian Beer factory on 20th Nov.
Got tracking number on 3rd Dec

That number indicates its still not moved anywhere.
"Order information has been transmitted to DPD."

I emailed them yesterday, got no reply yet.

Started to get a bit worried I won't have it before Christmas.
First time ordering from them, prices and delivery cost are great, but if the stuff doesn't arrive soon it will have been a waste of a chunk of my Christmas beer budget :-(

Mesrine65

He's up to his tits with orders this time of year, replying to e-mails is low on the list of priorities at the best of times.

Orders can take up to 4-6 weeks during Xmas season, I always order the first 2 weeks of November in time for Xmas delivery.

Tracking codes are sent to DPD in batches, might be 2 weeks before they actually have hands-on the goods for shipping.

a_non_a_mouse

Mesrine65 wrote: »

He's up to his tits with orders this time of year, replying to e-mails is low on the list of priorities at the best of times.

Orders can take up to 4-6 weeks during Xmas season, I always order the first 2 weeks of November in time for Xmas delivery.

Tracking codes are sent to DPD in batches, might be 2 weeks before they actually have hands-on the goods for shipping.

Thanks for reply.
I understand it probably manic and all that, info on site said to order before 27th Nov for Christmas delivery. I ordered a week before that.
Its kinda frustrating to think the beers are sitting in a box for the last week just waiting for courier to collect.
I'll keep fingers crossed and hope it gets here on time.

jupiler_beer

Has anyone ordered the 6l kegs, what is the Philips Draft System like for dispensing the beer? Would it be worth the investment?

tomhalloween

Ideo wrote: »

good to hear about your order,, ordered 3 mixed boxes last night for 99 incl delivery. about 45 beers so hope no hassle with customs. anybody ordered that many before and if so, how did you get on?

I made an order of 4 crates of beer on Nov 27th and it still hasn't been dispatched. Hopefully it's her for Xmas.

blueshed

Myself and some homebrew mates put in an order a few weeks back.
First order arrived with 1 bottle missing.

Second order arrived a few days later with you 9 bottles missing.

With a few emails and tweets were getting a refund for the missing beers.

a_non_a_mouse

Got a reply from Belgian Beer Factory and a new tracking code.
Said I should have order later this week or Monday.

If that happens, I'd be a happy camper.

Ideo

a_non_a_mouse wrote: »

Got a reply from Belgian Beer Factory and a new tracking code.
Said I should have order later this week or Monday.

If that happens, I'd be a happy camper.

will you give us an update as to how you got on? how many beers did you order btw?

a_non_a_mouse

Ideo wrote: »

will you give us an update as to how you got on? how many beers did you order btw?

Will do.
Just testing the waters as first order really.
Ordered 24 bottles and 4 glasses.
Worked out that compared to Irish off license prices after adding in postage, I'm basically getting the glasses free (Assuming all goes ok with the order!)

OldMrBrennan83

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BeerNut

Yes.
(it's easier to just look it up instead of waiting for a Boardsie to do it for you.)

OldMrBrennan83

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a_non_a_mouse

Patww79 wrote: »

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Hum....If you read earlier posts on this thread, you will see you have almost certainly missed the boat on getting an order from BelgianBeerFactory before Christmas.
Order by all means, but factor it that it almost certainly won't arrive before 25th.

My order from Nov 20th, is now in England, so getting close!

schemingbohemia

Patww79 wrote: »

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Did you actually type in Jupiler into the Belgianbeerfactory site mentioned earlier? Really?