Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 04:57PM

emmetlego wrote: »

I have the solution.

Sack Bould! :-)

He's that **** you'd sack him twice? Harsh

emmetlego · 28-10-2015 05:11PM

Soups123 wrote: »

He's that **** you'd sack him twice? Harsh

Hah, no idea how that happened! But yes, I'd sack him twice :-)

Injuries update on Sky Sports news there. Both Ox and Theo not available for this weekend at least, with a full update from Wenger at his press conf tomorrow.

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 05:27PM

Soups123 wrote: »

I kinda agree about the possession football especially against better teams, we are much better suited sitting back then going on the break.

This should be the way we set up against Swansea on Saturday. Plenty of bodies behind the ball, stifle there play especially in our half and try and hit them on the break. Although that may be hard to do without Walcotts lightening pace.

For far too many times we have tried to go to Swansea and play them off the park and have left ourselves vulnerable to there counter attack. A win would be terriffic, but a draw wouldn't be the end of the world either.

JustTheOne · 28-10-2015 05:31PM

At the start of the season some were saying the lack of signings is ok because we have someone new looking after our injury front and it seems to have worked because we had a fully fit squad in the summer.

Just seems nothing can help us at this stage. Will be the same as every season.

emmetlego · 28-10-2015 05:34PM

@bbcsport_david: Walcott (calf) & Ox (hamstring) expected to miss 3 games. Early indication TW slightly worse but both set to be out for #Swans #Bayern #THFC

CatInABox · 28-10-2015 05:34PM

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/659407345932455937

Seems like Theo and Ox are going to miss a minimum of three games each, with Theo maybe worse.

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 05:35PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

This should be the way we set up against Swansea on Saturday. Plenty of bodies behind the ball, stifle there play especially in our half and try and hit them on the break. Although that may be hard to do without Walcotts lightening pace.

For far too many times we have tried to go to Swansea and play them off the park and have left ourselves vulnerable to there counter attack. A win would be terriffic, but a draw wouldn't be the end of the world either.

Yeah be interesting to see what we go with. The right side could make the sit, soak and break uneffective.

They arent in great form themselves so we could go and try play them but they really do tend to get up for games against us. But on this occassion I think this is our best tact

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 05:35PM

CatInABox wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/659407345932455937

Seems like Theo and Ox are going to miss a minimum of three games each, with Theo maybe worse.

In Arsenal terms we wont see them until the Christmas period :rolleyes:

Pudders · 28-10-2015 05:39PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

In Arsenal terms we wont see them until the Christmas period :rolleyes:

But which Christmas?

Ken Shamrock · 28-10-2015 05:40PM

Cech

Bellerin----Kosc----Gab

Monreal

Art

Coq

Caz

Sanchez

Ozil

Giroud

Or would It just be better to play Campbell on the right? and keep Caz and Ozil centre with Sanchez Left?

He looks piss poor TBH

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 05:40PM

emmetlego wrote: »

@bbcsport_david: Walcott (calf) & Ox (hamstring) expected to miss 3 games. Early indication TW slightly worse but both set to be out for #Swans #Bayern #THFC

I think thats to be expected even if they were both tight rather than pulled, its 3 games over 8 days and you'd expect two weeks.

They have just over 3 weeks until after the international break I'd hope for both to be back by then unless they have done some serious damage. Arteta should be back by then too

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 05:41PM

Soups123 wrote: »

I would disgree, for goal number 2 they had spare men and space behind the goal scorer, for the 3rd goal the left sided midfield should have been marking the lad who knocked it back in.

I kinda agree about the possession football especially against better teams, we are much better suited sitting back then going on the break. For weaker teams they sit back so it more natural we should come and dominate.

In fairness to Arsene I think he has got his tactics spot on for a number of games this season.

Mert is not a poor back up player, Chambers is not a poor back up player when you consider he is 4th choice CB, your not going to get much better for a 4th choice CB, he needs a loan if you ask me.

Debuchy I feel needs to move on, the two injuries and Bellerin's emergence has killed him.

Gibbs as a 2nd choice LB is as good as there is around, have a look at other teams around us they have no better.

I think Mert and Gibbs can slot in and perform to the level needed. The other two I would worry about

Chambers is a poor back-up player imo.
Gibbs is far too weak and timid. Remembering him ducking a few weeks ago.
I thought Debuchy was good when he came but he's far too slow now and either lacking fitness or interest.
Mert is not the worst and his passing is good but he just can't jump and is often beaten in the air by smaller players.

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 05:41PM

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Cech
Bellerin----Kosc----Gab
Monreal
Art
Coq
Caz
Sanchez
Ozil
Giroud

Or would It just be better to play Campbell on the right? and keep Caz and Ozil centre with Sanchez Left?

He looks piss poor TBH

Arteta is injured.

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 05:41PM

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Cech
Bellerin----Kosc----Gab
Monreal
Art
Coq
Caz
Sanchez
Ozil
Giroud

Or would It just be better to play Campbell on the right? and keep Caz and Ozil centre with Sanchez Left?

He looks piss poor TBH

Arteta is injured!

I think this will be it but with Flamini instead of Arteta. Flamini pushing on more with Coq doing his normal

Nemeses2050 · 28-10-2015 05:42PM

looking at the squad, we only have 4 midfielders and 3 forwards who are fit...jaysus...we sure have to recall some of the loanees.

Ken Shamrock · 28-10-2015 05:43PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Arteta is injured.

Soups123 wrote: »

Arteta is injured!

I think this will be it but with Flamini instead of Arteta. Flamini pushing on more with Coq doing his normal

Omg, wtf do we do then? :pac:

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 05:44PM

emmetlego wrote: »

I have the solution.

Sack Bould! :-)

Many a true word ....

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 05:45PM

I like Giroud but I think our attacking play is just so static when he starts. I would play Sanchez up top, Ozil on the right cutting in on his left foot and play either Campbell or Gibbs on the left wing. Not ideal but we haven't got much to choose from.

Looper007 · 28-10-2015 05:45PM

L'prof wrote: »

It says his spell was cut short by the League 1 club as he failed to impress coaching staff.

Not a good sign when you hear that is it. Seen as many rate him as been one of the young players that could be a future first team player. Maybe he knows Wenger is high on him so he couldn't be bothered to impress or maybe Barnsley didn't suit his style.

I think we should take Gnarby back too seen as he hasn't done anything at WBA. He might come In handy for the next two months or so.

Is Akpom the only one impressing right now on Loan?

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 05:45PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Chambers is a poor back-up player imo.
Gibbs is far too weak and timid. Remembering him ducking a few weeks ago.
I thought Debuchy was good when he came but he's far too slow now and either lacking fitness or interest.
Mert is not the worst and his passing is good but he just can't jump and is often beaten in the air by smaller players.

But being realistic;

Chambers is 4th choice CB, would you agree that for that level of squad depth he is as good as you are likely too get, with a good loan could become a great player?

Gibbs, does anyone have a better 2nd choice LB that this in the league?

Debuchy had two awful injuries one with each leg, he has lost pace and his place and he knows he can't win it back, move him on bring in Jenks.

Agreed Mert is not the worst and as 3rd choice is more than capable. Has had some magnificent games this season

So all in all we are not too bad off in defence when you look at what we have in comparison to others and understanding top class players will not come to a team to play second choice

Soups123 · 28-10-2015 05:46PM

Ken Shamrock wrote: »

Omg, wtf do we do then? :pac:

Just keep giving it to Sanchez and shout run run run...........

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 05:47PM

Soups123 wrote: »

Arteta is injured!

I think this will be it but with Flamini instead of Arteta. Flamini pushing on more with Coq doing his normal

That will be it.
A very poor bench after that.

Gringo180 · 28-10-2015 05:47PM

Looper007 wrote: »

Not a good sign when you hear that is it.

Lets not forget it wasn't long ago that Coq couldn't get into the Charlton team. He has been one of our best players this year.

pudzey101 · 28-10-2015 05:49PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Lets not forget it wasn't long ago that Coq couldn't get into the Charlton team. He has been one of our best players this year.

glad someone said it

! amazing how much possession/tackles he wins for us , might not get the goals but defiantly stops opposition scoring , if we had payed 30mil for him in summer everyone would be talking about him

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 05:50PM

Soups123 wrote: »

But being realistic;

Chambers is 4th choice CB, would you agree that for that level of squad depth he is as good as you are likely too get, with a good loan could become a great player?

Gibbs, does anyone have a better 2nd choice LB that this in the league?

Debuchy had two awful injuries one with each leg, he has lost pace and his place and he knows he can't win it back, move him on bring in Jenks.

Agreed Mert is not the worst and as 3rd choice is more than capable. Has had some magnificent games this season

So all in all we are not too bad off in defence when you look at what we have in comparison to others and understanding top class players will not come to a team to play second choice

Ok but i have never rated Gibbs and Chambers is an accident waiting to happen. Showed promise when he arrived but has gone back-ways since. Maybe a loan period with a C/ship side would bring him on.

Ken Shamrock · 28-10-2015 05:50PM

pudzey101 wrote: »

glad someone said it ! amazing how much possession/tackles he wins for us , might not get the goals but defiantly stops opposition scoring , if we had payed 30mil for him in summer everyone would be talking about him

If I had a penney for every time someone has said that I'd have about 30Million penneys :pac:

Pudders · 28-10-2015 05:50PM

tayto lover wrote: »

That will be it.
A very poor bench after that.

Don't worry. Arsene will splash the cash at Christmas. The transfer stocking will be brimming!

Looper007 · 28-10-2015 05:52PM

Soups123 wrote: »

But being realistic;

Chambers is 4th choice CB, would you agree that for that level of squad depth he is as good as you are likely too get, with a good loan could become a great player?

Gibbs, does anyone have a better 2nd choice LB that this in the league?

Debuchy had two awful injuries one with each leg, he has lost pace and his place and he knows he can't win it back, move him on bring in Jenks.

Agreed Mert is not the worst and as 3rd choice is more than capable. Has had some magnificent games this season

So all in all we are not too bad off in defence when you look at what we have in comparison to others and understanding top class players will not come to a team to play second choice

I think last night was a off night for our defence, I rather it happen in a match like that then on Saturday. I do agree Debuchy looks like he can't be bothered, who can blame him as Bellerin has become one of the biggest prospects in world football. We won't get Jenks back until the summer until then we should keep Debuchy but I wonder if he be wanting out in January seen as he wants to make the French squad for the Euro's.

Mert is at his strongest when he has Kos beside him. I do think Chamber's needs a loan move like with Jenks for a year or two really but we can't afford to lose him. Gibb's is no Monreal but he do a solid job. I agree we are grand in defence.

It's now with the injuries to Ox and Walcott that up forward we're looking very bare. One more serious injury and we could be screwed.

tayto lover · 28-10-2015 05:57PM

Pudders wrote: »

Don't worry. Arsene will splash the cash at Christmas. The transfer stocking will be brimming!

Ha ha. I'll put money on that :pac:

Looper007 · 28-10-2015 05:58PM

Gringo180 wrote: »

Lets not forget it wasn't long ago that Coq couldn't get into the Charlton team. He has been one of our best players this year.

finger's crossed, I think what goes agaisn't Crowley he hasn't played First team football with us aside from a few friendlies in the summer, unlike Coq who had a few years experience with us. Unlike say Wilshire who had a great loan spell with Bolton in the PL, to be sent back from a struggling First division team cause he didn't impress isn't a good sign. But we have to wait and see.

Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2015/16 ( Mod Note linked in OP 29/12)

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